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Discussion: How much of Lemonade did Beyonce write?
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changing two lines and adding a harmony is worth about 10% I think
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Part 2. Songwriting
Here's some of Beyonce's writer credit percentage. Usually 50% lyrics/50% music. so If Beyonce has 50%, it means she wrote the lyrics herself. Basically the whole Suvivor album was written by beyonce except Emotion and anything that was sampled.
8 Days of Christmas 50%
Spread a Little Love on Christmas Day 50%
Apple Pie a la Mode 50%
Bootylicious 25% (Stevie Nicks for the sample 50%, 2 producer together 25%)
Bow Down 50%
Brown Eyes 50%
Cater 2 U 30% (5 people on credit)
Crazy in Love 7.5% (sampling 50% / jay z 5% / rich harrison 37.5% - he did the music/track
Dangerously in Love 50%
Dance with Me 50%
Dot 50%
The Story of Beauty 50%
Fancy 50%
Game Over 20% (sampling 50%, other 4 producers = 30%)
Destiny's Child Gospel Medly 41.67% (for the arrangement)
Independent women part 1 50%
independent women part 2 - B+Eric = 73% (Beyonce is probably 50%)
Happy Face - B+ Calvin C = 62.5% (probably Beyonce 50 and other 4 people got 12.5 each)
Green Light 42.5%
Got's my Own 30% (6 people on the list)
Jumping Jumping 50% (3 producer 50% together)
Kitty Kat 55% !!
Lose my Breath - 39.34%
My Heart Still Beat 50%
Nasty Girl 30% (sampling.)
Through With Love 25%
Daddy 50%
Sexy Daddy 60%
Do it Again 32.5%
Rise up 13.87
Standing on the sun 15%
God made you beautiful 15%
1+1 15%
Dance for You 15%
Pretty Hurts 5%
Haunted 25%
Blue 25%
Heaven 25%
Jealous 15%
No Angel 20%
Rocket 10%
Superpower 10%
Partition 50% (single version without yonce)
Drunk in Love 33.34%
7/11 25% (probably 25% each)
Feeling Myself 12.5%
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Enough to have the best-selling album released this year and the most acclaimed album by a main pop girl. 
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Pretty Hurts 5%
Haunted 25%
Blue 25%
Heaven 25%
Jealous 15%
No Angel 20%
Rocket 10%
Superpower 10%
Partition 50% (single version without yonce)
Drunk in Love 33.34%
7/11 25% (probably 25% each)
Feeling Myself 12.5%
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 aren't most these songs from self titled? Her "personal" album about embracing her sexuality as a mother and dealing with topics of feminism 
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Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA
so would you put beyonce in the same category as songwriters like adele, taylor or mariah carey?
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She's better, because she isn't stuck in a rut talking about heartbreak. She can really talk about anything. Your parents invest so much money for you to work with the country greats like Liz Rose and this is what you constantly churn out? Lol.
Mariah loves to add in a brand name here or there, but that ain't cute any more. 
Fritos, Windex, Cal-Gon commercials? BYE.
All three are reductive and selling mediocrity.
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Originally posted by VOSS
OK. That's like saying when someone does a cover of a song they should get writing credits for different "vocal production". It's completely absurd. They didn't write the song.
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Love, if they go into a studio and release it/ get the rights to do it and they do new vocal production on it than yes they can get credit on their version.
Why would a person who did a demo of the song get credit when they most likely had their own vocal producing them? 
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Originally posted by trainsskyscrapers
She's better, because she isn't stuck in a rut talking about heartbreak. She can really talk about anything. Your parents invest so much money for you to work with the country greats like Liz Rose and this is what you constantly churn out? Lol.
Mariah loves to add in a brand name here or there, but that ain't cute any more.
Fritos, Windex, Cal-Gon commercials? BYE.
All three are reductive and selling mediocrity. |
I'm done.  The absolute ignorance and lies. 
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Care to show where it was "debunked"?  |
Nope. The thread topic is redundant . Every year, y'all bring up the same tired topic. It gets debunked with receipts, y'all get quiet, and then bringing up some months later. Do the search yourself. The ignorance on songwriting on this site is exhausting.
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Originally posted by JustActinUP
Nope. The thread topic is redundant . Every year, y'all bring up the same tired topic. It gets debunked with receipts, y'all get quiet, and then bringing up some months later. Do the search yourself. The ignorance on songwriting on this site is exhausting.
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Guess not then
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Beyonce fans claiming people should get songwriting credit when they cover someone elses song
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Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA
aren't most these songs from self titled? Her "personal" album about embracing her sexuality as a mother and dealing with topics of feminism |
You're trying way too hard. Giving it up already.
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Beyonce fans claiming people should get songwriting credit when they cover someone elses song |
In that case Whitney Should had got songwriting credit for IWALY
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Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA
so would you put beyonce in the same category as songwriters like adele, taylor or mariah carey?
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I wouldn't put any of those ladies on the same level as Babyface, Diane Warren and Prince.
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Originally posted by VOSS
Guess not then |
It's wouldn't matter coz you're wilfully ignorant about it. Even when receipts are provided.
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Originally posted by JustActinUP
It's wouldn't matter coz you're wilfully ignorant about it. Even when receipts are provided.
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Well, no "receipts" have been provided so far so I'm not sure what you mean!
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Originally posted by Havoc
Sandcastles:
As Beyonce worked on the project – she received “Sandcastles” in February 2015, Berry said -- the songwriter knew he wanted to keep ownership of the record instead of signing a publishing agreement, but that meant making great sacrifices.
“I wanted to own it and that’s a harder road. That meant being homeless and sleeping in cars and garages and studios and that’s what I was willing to do,” said Berry, who now lives in Woodland Hills. “I knew I couldn’t sign a publishing deal knowing what they are -- essentially a high-interest loan. Why would I take that kind of deal?”
On the final version of the record, which Berry heard ahead of the album’s April release, Beyonce wrote a more hopeful ending than the one Berry originally penned.
“And your heart is broken cause I walked away / Show me your scars and I won't walk away,” Beyonce sang. “And I know I promised that I couldn't stay, baby / [But] every promise don't work out that way.”
Daddys Lessons
Beyoncé is a scientist of songs. I’ve never seen anyone work the way she works. She definitely changes the song structures. She can take two songs, say, “I like two lines, I like the melody then let me use that for a verse and a bridge and write the whole middle.” It’s more of a collaboration. You never know what she’ll like. I came to her with a bunch of songs and she was like, “I like that verse, I like the idea.” But she definitely doesn’t take things as is, at least not from me.1 I came in on the Jack White song [“Don’t Hurt Yourself”] and helped finish it.
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You’d written Daddy Lessons before you worked with her?
When I played it for her, I was like, “This is one of my favorite songs.” [b]She was like, “This is my life.” I told her, “You know what, take it, do what you want with it.” She went and re-produced it, she changed some words, added the bridge, it’s hers. She didn’t talk to me about her father. We didn’t go into details. I see their relationship in the media just like everyone else. I watched the HBO special just like everyone else.
Formation:
Will later ran into Bey at a hotel-room hangout with LeBron James and the Cavaliers, he says. “And Bey was like, ‘Yo, I like that “formation” idea.’ And I told her what I was thinking about the woman empowerment, and she was like, ‘Yeah I kinda like that idea.’ And she just left it like that.” Although Beyoncé wrote new verses for the song, she built around the central mantra. “We were just thinking about it being a female anthem,” Will added. “Because I knew I just wanted a banger with Beyoncé, like a ‘Single Ladies,’ but I wanted it to be a new kind of chant.”
Will spent a week in the studio with Beyoncé working on the track. She “took this one little idea we came up with on the way to Coachella, put it in a pot, stirred it up, and came with this smash,” he says. “She takes ideas and puts them with her own ideas, and makes this masterpiece. She’s all about collaborating.” He added, “That’s what makes her Beyoncé. Being able to know what she wants. A lot of people don’t know what they want.
Dont Hurt Yourself:
You're a business partner with Jay Z in his Tidal streaming service as well. Is that how Beyoncé got the idea of coming over and ringing your bell?
You know, I just talked to her and she said, "I wanna be in a band with you." [Laughs.] I said, "Really? Well, I'd love to do something." I've always loved her voice — I mean, I think she has the kind of soul singing voice of the days of Betty Davis or Aretha Franklin. She took just sort of a sketch of a lyrical outline and turned into the most bodacious, vicious, incredible song. I don't even know what you'd classify it as — soul, rock and roll, whatever. "Don't Hurt Yourself" is incredibly intense; I'm so amazed at what she did with it
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Class dismissed.
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Originally posted by VOSS
Beyonce fans claiming people should get songwriting credit when they cover someone elses song |
Fun Fact: It's not a cover!
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It’s interesting that some of the songs you’ve recorded, but didn’t make it on an album, have gone on to work well with other artists. Did you ever imagine one of your songs would go on to be recorded by Beyonce?
That’s actually an interesting story. These two guys, Tricky Stewart and the Dream, they actually wrote that song. And they, along with LA Reid who was running Island/Def Jam at the time, they wanted me to record it. And I listened to the song and I could tell it was a great song but it didn’t sound like me at all. I’d never recorded an outside song, so there was a lot of back and forth, but in the end I wound up going out to Vegas to their studio and recorded it but the whole time it never felt like my song. Before the record came out, and that was slated to be the first single, I wrote “Beating My Heart,” and LA Reid heard the new song and said he liked the song better so let’s make that the lead single.
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https://hearhearmusic.com/2015/12/04...how-at-deluxe/
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It's not a debunked lie sis That's literally proof of the messiness of it. |
No. It's been proven she did more than just change the title of the song. For one the vocal arrangement is different. The only thing messy here, are the gerls that think songwriting is limited to writing lyrics.
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"Stealing demos" when writers get upcoming artists to sing on it to pitch to artists ugh
Y'all know nothing
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