[Corsola]

Originally posted by accelgors

i mean...in the end, i'd say the "SJW" caricature is a real thing that happens on a significant scale in some internet communities (like people that say they're triggered by TV shows or people that are spending their days promoting "fictionkin rights" or whatever), but the problem lies in that people have started labeling anyone who is any more liberal as them as an SJW. which kind of compounds with the fact that they associate anyone there in the "SJW" label. like earlier i was in a political debate over trump with someone, and i said the discussion was bothering me and i wanted to end it, and he made fun of me being "triggered" by it. i didn't even use that word or anything similar to it. it's like everyone associates anyone on the internet with two "teams", either tumblr warrior loser or alt-right racist trash, and when you show any sympathy towards one view, you automatically are in that "team" in their mind.

i'm not sure if i'm just rambling it's 6 AM okay

This is right. You get called a SJW libtard tumblrina for literally anything on the internet.

To answer the OP, yes, partially. The bitterness towards whites made up part of it, but it was any ''PC culture'' in general that pushed some away. Or rather, Trump not abiding by this PC culture. How many Trump stans have you seen talking about how he's ''unapologetic'', ''tells it like it is'', etc? Many people were happy that they found a candidate that is blunt with no qualms about being offensive. White bashing is definitely a part of this.

I still think they're a mess for that but that's just how it is.

[Shizuka]

Originally posted by Starburst

This was one of the many reasons yes. Also I never understood why SJWs come for white people in the first place when countries with Sharia law exist that throw acid on women if the get raped and throw gays off buildings. But yes let's come for the racist whites Black people don't want to address the homophobia in their community either, why don't any of the gays here speak out on that? The truth is you become enamoured with a anti-white anti-male anti-straight liberal narrative and most level-headed whites werent gonna just accept these ideals as fact.

But this is just one factor, Hillary was a corrupt candidate and the Democratic Party got exposed on a bi-weekly basis as a corrupt political faction. And yet she still somehow was a perfect candidate for you guys? A bunch of white-hating anti-nuclear family gays rallying towards a criminal who killed Benghazi in his sleep. An establishment shill, backed up by pop stars and celebrities and the entire liberal media, it was seriously giving dystopian teas to most people. SJWs needed to get BTFO, and I'm glad they did.

What even is the point in saying this? It's always people not in or familiar with the Black community trying to say how they deal with stuff.

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Let me correct you by saying the Alt right will become even more dangerous under Trump. The regressive left is over. They're weeping and they can only blame the DNC so much for their own behavior. They divided democrats and then wouldn't back anyone but the guy they wanted to appoint. Because history has been kind to protest votes (See: Nader's abysmal favorability numbers.) Watching them crumble, as the media refuses to get on their side anymore, will be a sweet little victory for us who actually voted to stop Trump

Exactly. They stopped caring about the race completely or some even vowed to vote for Trump just to give a big **** you to the democrats that didn't let Bernie win. The stupid it's either my way or the high way stance they had completely divided the left.

[FBF]

Originally posted by Lucas32

They don't even hear themselves anymore. They throw this stuff out so casually they don't even notice anymore how what they post is an exact mirror of the things the people they demonise say.

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It's not pro-active though, it's only "reaction" so I wouldn't put it exactly on the same level, but still...

[LoKoPaNdA]

k but most white people have always felt resentment over minorities so how are minorities expected to stay quiet about that?

[Cain]

Originally posted by FBF

So what ? I'm a french white, France had colonies in Africa. Do you want me to fail and be miserable ?

You can strive for equality without the need to put anyone down, even groups of people that are notorious for having caused inequality in the first place, if you want to exclude those groups you'll never be able to achieve equality. And it wouldn't be fair because not every straight man thinks like this.

The whole point is that everyone should have equal chances.
Me saying I'll be first in line to watch them demise is about their world demising. This is a straight white male world and it shouldn't be, it should be everyone's. Now that things are finally progressing and everyone is standing up for themselves even the smallest victory gets ridiculed by them. Femisism already had a smear campaign, BLM, Gay Rights, etc.
I don't get why it's so hard for them to accept that they have been given more chances than others, and now the time has come that their skin color or sexual orientation will no longer give them a headstart anymore.
But somehow in all of this they still want to play the victim?

[accelgors]

Originally posted by Communion

It's people propped up and helped by institutions finding a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card from having to tackle and question these unfair systems that benefit them. Privilege is a hell of a drug and the mind will compartmentalize as it needs to in order to justify and make sense of what the person understands to be true.

*someone tackles anti-blackness*
"Ughh ****ing SJWs!!"

*someone mentions rape*
"lolz ****ing cucks, grabbing a girl's breast is not sexual assault"

*someone mentions homophobia*
"But we should bring in Syrian refugees? Who hate gays? ****ing libtards"

Once you give privileged people a scapegoat - very young people on a platform ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT (tumblr) just grasping social justice and applying it to what they know (tv shows, movies, music, etc.) - they'll forever use that to discredit real issues. It's the ego of white supremacy's way of justifying itself. "White supremacy isn't a thing - it's madeup by man-childs on tumblr dot com with their 3 genders. I am right. I am strong. I am a white male and I am valid".

It's not rebellion.
It's not "common sense rejecting SJWs".
It's bigotry and specifically white supremacy trying to survive on its last legs centuries in.

i understand what you mean. it's like these people see that there are dumb people on the left and immediately assume ALL people on the left are just crazy. (which is some serious cognitive dissonance because i doubt they agree with every person that calls themselves any kind of conservative)

and yeah, i think a lot of these types of people just don't think critically about how other people have different experiences than them, so they assume that everyone grew up privileged in the ways they were and therefore if they don't have the same views as the alt-right they must be stupid or crazy or whatever other adjective they can think of. it's an attitude that some people all across the political spectrum are at least somewhat guilty of, but the alt-right group seems to take it to an extreme extent, and skip the mild side of just being somewhat unfair and go all the way to being outright cruel or even violent.

basically, i don't really have sympathy for trump supporters and i think they seriously are in the wrong, but i don't think the left can entirely absolve themselves from blame of fanning the fires of the people that were already dangerous.

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

k but most white people have always felt resentment over minorities so how are minorities expected to stay quiet about that?

why are people acting that this was a ****ing race war. Majority of democratic voters were also white and there were Blacks for Trump and Gays for Trump groups popping up everywhere.

[Lucas32]

Originally posted by FBF

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It's not pro-active though, it's only "reaction" so I wouldn't put it exactly on the same level, but still...

I must honestly say I don't care whether it's reactionary or pro-active. Just don't attack or generalise people for their race,sexuality or gender. Those used to be liberal values but they don't seem to play a role for many anymore.

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

k but most white people have always felt resentment over minorities so how are minorities expected to stay quiet about that?

You can voice those things without throwing entire groups of people under the bus.

[St. Charles]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

k but most white people have always felt resentment over minorities so how are minorities expected to stay quiet about that?

I hope they don't stay quiet about it. But I hope that instead of calling someone a cracker on twitter tomorrow morning, they will simply vote in the next election. That's all I want. Because that's really all it takes.

[Corsola]

Originally posted by Communion

It's people propped up and helped by institutions finding a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card from having to tackle and question these unfair systems that benefit them. Privilege is a hell of a drug and the mind will compartmentalize as it needs to in order to justify and make sense of what the person understands to be true.

*someone tackles anti-blackness*
"Ughh ****ing SJWs!!"

*someone mentions rape*
"lolz ****ing cucks, grabbing a girl's breast is not sexual assault"

*someone mentions homophobia*
"But we should bring in Syrian refugees? Who hate gays? ****ing libtards"

Once you give privileged people a scapegoat - very young people on a platform ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT (tumblr) just grasping social justice and applying it to what they know (tv shows, movies, music, etc.) - they'll forever use that to discredit real issues. It's the ego of white supremacy's way of justifying itself. "White supremacy isn't a thing - it's madeup by man-childs on tumblr dot com with their 3 genders. I am right. I am strong. I am a white male and I am valid".

It's not rebellion.
It's not "common sense rejecting SJWs".
It's bigotry and specifically white supremacy trying to survive on its last legs centuries in.

This was posted after I quoted the other post but this is also true. I agree 100%; but sadly the type of people in accelgors's post think they're some edgy rebels when really they're just mindless bigots who crack when faced with any critical thinking.

[Suga&Grits]

Trump was an open bigot, misogynist, xenophobe and racist who didn't code switch. And publically he was seen as embarrassing. Behind closed doors white people loved it

And the numbers show they did !

[lightstheyblindme]

I would say it had more to do with white people rebelling against the reality that liberal democratic multiculturalism would be the death of white supremacy

[Communion]

Originally posted by FBF

So what ? I'm a french white, France had colonies in Africa. Do you want me to fail and be miserable ?

You can strive for equality without the need to put anyone down, even groups of people that are notorious for having caused inequality in the first place, if you want to exclude those groups you'll never be able to achieve equality. And it wouldn't be fair because not every straight man thinks like this.

Literally no one wants you to fail.

But some of you will NEVER grasp historical context.

How are white men failing in 2016 in America?

Let's look at HOW Trump won.
Let's see this "economic anxiety" that sent whites to him.

There are largely non-white counties in Michigan and Wisconsin with double the poverty rates than the white counties that flipped from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016 in both states. Many of these largely urban counties stayed for Hillary - why? The highest Native American counties in those two states have HORRIBLE poverty, but stayed with the Dems - why?

Why do whites react so drastically and differently to poverty than POC?

Of course everyone can succeed and DESERVES the right to succeed, but there's just.. a difference between the way many white folks react to problems versus non-white folks, even on something like the economy. White people scapegoat undocumented immigrants for "lower wages" - when we know this is factually not true - and yet many people of color don't. Why?

There is a difference in the discourse because there is a tangible difference in the way white folks react to, benefit from, and tackle issues than people of color, on a landscape informed and created by white supremacy.

Trump didn't even get the poor vote.
He got the $50k+ vote - why? I thought he was a populist candidate for the poor?

You have people of color facing intense economic oppression STILL siding with Democrats who push inclusive and for-all policies, but middle class whites flip to WHITE NATIONALISM AND XENOPHOBIA the moment they go from making $60k/year to $50k/year in dead industries? WHY? Just... the way the conversations vary has to speak of a mindset of privilege allowed by bigotry. We can tackle white poverty, but we have to be honest about what whites consider themselves "poor" and how there's a dishonesty in their egos.

[cloudinthesky]

Originally posted by Starburst

This was one of the many reasons yes. Also I never understood why SJWs come for white people in the first place when countries with Sharia law exist that throw acid on women if the get raped and throw gays off buildings. But yes let's come for the racist whites Black people don't want to address the homophobia in their community either, why don't any of the gays here speak out on that? The truth is you become enamoured with a anti-white anti-male anti-straight liberal narrative and most level-headed whites werent gonna just accept these ideals as fact.

But this is just one factor, Hillary was a corrupt candidate and the Democratic Party got exposed on a bi-weekly basis as a corrupt political faction. And yet she still somehow was a perfect candidate for you guys? A bunch of white-hating anti-nuclear family gays rallying towards a criminal who killed Benghazi in his sleep. An establishment shill, backed up by pop stars and celebrities and the entire liberal media, it was seriously giving dystopian teas to most people. SJWs needed to get BTFO, and I'm glad they did.

The absolute ignorance. The gay community comes for black people literally ALL the time over this. It's the most common response whenever a black gay even DARES complain about being the least desired race of gay. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[TaggedGalaxy]

Fear propelled Trump. The white man has had power ever since this country was created. The fact that we had a black President for 8 years terrified the racists and bigots, it ate them up. The thought of a woman President following a black president was too much for them to handle, they wanted to make sure the white man was in power again. It's so evident with Trump's slogan, "make America great again." They want to restore AmeriKKKa back to the way it used to be - the white man having power. What kills me is that white women went along with it.

[Corsola]

This is (slightly) off topic but speaking of these edgy internet anti-SJWs, this black gay content creator I follow was going on a twitter rant after Trump was elected and spilling NOTHING but the truth yet his replies are all filled with white straight guys telling him he's being dramatic and a SJW and it just got me a bit pressed yesterday.

[St. Charles]

Just realized that instead of immigration and political correctness, if they made this next election be about classism and poverty / climbing the social latter, then I think we could win it.

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by Ecstasy

why are people acting that this was a ****ing race war. Majority of democratic voters were also white and there were Blacks for Trump and Gays for Trump groups popping up everywhere.

Originally posted by Lucas32

You can voice those things without throwing entire groups of people under the bus.

It's not even about throwing people under the bus. White people must be aware of what they do and how it affects others. White privilege exists and they must know about it so they at least attempt to solve the problem. And of course some areas are less problematic than others but the South is a hot mess.

Originally posted by St. Charles

I hope they don't stay quiet about it. But I hope that instead of calling someone a cracker on twitter tomorrow morning, they will simply vote in the next election. That's all I want. Because that's really all it takes.

Eh...I understand people's frustration honestly. But yeah they should vote. POC have had enough patience already that I feel guilty asking for even more at this point.

[St. Charles]

Originally posted by TaggedGalaxy

Fear propelled Trump. The white man has had power ever since this country was created. The fact that we had a black President for 8 years terrified the racists and bigots, it ate them up. The thought of a woman President following a black president was too much for them to handle, they wanted to make sure the white man was in power again. It's so evident with Trump's slogan, "make America great again." They want to restore AmeriKKKa back to the way it used to be - the white man having power. What kills me is that white women went along with it.

I think most of these white women just voted for whatever their husbands did. lol.