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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Omg the protesters holding up blood stained panties 
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Member Since: 11/11/2011
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
This country is ****ed, as is the entire world. The social ramifications are not the only risks at play here. Climate change is going to increase at an exponential rate. If you don't see that, then I truly feel sorry for you.
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I do see that and I am terrified that climate change is about to be pretty much #cancelled but the left needs to chill with the silencing and hostility
I'm a democrat btw and voted Hillary (my Jill stanning was just trolling)
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by Saskia
My MOM is trying to ream me now. for unfriending someone I knew because she was a Trump supporter:
Sorry mom, but you also told me not to be bigoted... and not be friends with trash, so there's that.
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I removed a few people as well. It is not about a difference of opinion either. They had the right to vote to Trump, I have the right to remove anyone who supports bigotry.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Saskia
My MOM is trying to ream me now. for unfriending someone I knew because she was a Trump supporter:
Sorry mom, but you also told me not to be bigoted... and not be friends with trash, so there's that.
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You did the right thing.
Having different opinions is fine, sure, all well and good. But we're not talking about whether people like pineapple on pizza or not. Whether you brush your teeth before or after breakfast. When those opinions are about other people's human rights and livelihoods, and someone is willingly supporting a racist, sexist, homophobe etc. among many other things, that reflects on their character. And while I can tolerate that I could never be friends with that. That's my choice. I value character too much and no matter how nice someone is, if they're a ****** person on the inside, I'm done.
There's someone I see at work every day who I just keep learning more and more deplorable things about their character. As soon as they quit and move away next year I'm unfriending their ass SO fast. I just don't want to make it become a thing at work if they notice before they leave. Biding my time.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Silence.
Rachel is one of the people I turn to. Watching the clips of her reacting live as the numbers were coming in last night I just know that I'm going to end up crying at what she has to say about all of this.
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I wish I could've seen that (not really bc i would've cried too) but I was too busy watching CNN being shellshocked
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I feel so deflated and upset, and it's giving my flashbacks to the Brexit vote which affected me a lot more personally.
I have been a huge HRC supporter since the 2008 primaries, and I feel so sad that she will be unable to lead the country she loves and has served so loyally for decades.
I am seriously going to pray for all minorities in America for the next four years, but the possibility of a conservative SCOTUS is possibly the worst thing to come out of this election and it'll last a generation.
We'll get through this. Onwards to 2020.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by nick4bty
I can't believe Trump will end up with 306 delegates to Hillary's 228. He literally crushed her. I assumed he would make it by just a few superdelegates, if that, but he literally beat her by 68 delegates.
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There are no superdelegates in the general election.
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Hillary allied with people who did not appear to have the best interests for white people. She, to them, represented many things wrong with America and her being white didn't change that. Again, I don't think every Trump supporter is truly all these negative things, but out of fear they endorsed negativity without thinking of the consequences.
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You can take out "white" and insert "working class", but you are correct. Hillary/Dems only have themselves to blame. Working class whites naturally and justifiably will look for the best interest of themselves, that does not mean they do it for the detriment of other people. If they did, that would be racism. Democrats used to have a new deal coalition of working class whites, racial/religious minorities, and some bleeding heart college grads. That coalition is clearly broken. We need to fix it in the future. Bernie or Warren can do that.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Rachel and the rest of the MSNBC anchors last night seemed rather cool-headed about it all. They put on a good act.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Working class whites naturally and justifiably will look for the best interest of themselves, that does not mean they do it for the detriment of other people. If they did, that would be racism.
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But they did. And it was.
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Rachel is about to cry on her show... ahhh. 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Hold it back Rachel 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I've FB unfriended a few clearly biased far right people. People that are celebrating the other side's sorrow and ridiculing it, responding to people with hostility. I just don't get it.
I do know a lot of other people who did vote for him despite not liking him and aren't being super proud/public about it. I do want to have some discussions with some of them tbh just out of curiosity, I already have.
This article kinda mentions why a lot of people did vote for him:
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"The truth is, most of Trump's voters voted for him despite the fact that he said/believes awful things, not because of it. That in no way excuses it, but I have to admit I've spent eight years quietly tuning out news stories about drone strikes blowing up weddings in Afghanistan. I still couldn't point to Yemen on a map. We form blind spots for our side, because there's something larger at stake. In their case, it's a belief that the system is fundamentally broken and that Hillary Clinton would have been more of the same. Trump rode a wave of support from people who've spent the last eight years watching terrifying nightly news reports about ISIS and mass shootings and riots. They look out their front door and see painkiller addicts and closed factories. They believe that nobody in Washington gives a **** about them, mainly because that's 100-percent correct."
That pressure was building and building all around us, and we kept ignoring it. We media types were baffled when Trump won his first primary, and then his second, and then his third. We desperately tried to figure out how the system had failed. We were bemused when he won the nomination, then when he continued to hang around in the polls, we had approximately the same reaction one would have to seeing an invisible dagger floating across the room, aimed right at our ****ing face. "How is this happening?!?"
Stop being baffled. Understand why it happened. Do the opposite of panic. Work through the problem.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
I just made a thread for this, but here's some optimism:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/dont-panic/
Hopefully, after the next few days, the protests and stuff die down. I don't know what people expect to come from them, but in the long run they might cause more harm than good. We need to just accept this reality and get through it the best way we can. |
No offense (to you) but that has got to be the biggest piece of trash I've ever read.
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This is one thing that has always gotten to me. Everyone in the rust belt states complain that their jobs aren't there anymore. Well that's what happens with trade deals and when you become too expensive. You want more money and you want jobs. So do those who want a higher minimum wage. You want people to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. But you refuse to do that. You stay working in a dying industry and refuse to learn new technologies or get an education. The absolute HYPOCRISY.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
No offense (to you) but that has got to be the biggest piece of trash I've ever read.
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How so? They made a lot of really great points tbh.
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Yes lord
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by Aurora
You did the right thing.
Having different opinions is fine, sure, all well and good. But we're not talking about whether people like pineapple on pizza or not. Whether you brush your teeth before or after breakfast. When those opinions are about other people's human rights and livelihoods, and someone is willingly supporting a racist, sexist, homophobe etc. among many other things, that reflects on their character. And while I can tolerate that I could never be friends with that. That's my choice. I value character too much and no matter how nice someone is, if they're a ****** person on the inside, I'm done.
There's someone I see at work every day who I just keep learning more and more deplorable things about their character. As soon as they quit and move away next year I'm unfriending their ass SO fast. I just don't want to make it become a thing at work if they notice before they leave. Biding my time.
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
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It's a known fact in politics that if you give people way too much of one thing they will then want the exact opposite. The utopia of a country where everyone is truly equal regardless of sexual orientation, race or gender could still be a few decades away. This is important because it was a central point in Hillary's campaign, her catch phrase was "Stronger Together". Truth is, the average American doesn't feel like they need the help of immigrants to build a stronger country. Americans are actually afraid of Muslims and they dread the idea of sheltering thousands of refugees like Europe is doing.
On top of that, the industrial and post-industrial worlds are clashing big time in most Western countries, which explains Brexit too. The needs of a blue collar worker living in a rural area are completely different of an educated young adult living in a metropolitan area. This is Ford versus Google.
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Member Since: 11/5/2010
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Originally posted by Aurora
You did the right thing.
Having different opinions is fine, sure, all well and good. But we're not talking about whether people like pineapple on pizza or not. Whether you brush your teeth before or after breakfast. When those opinions are about other people's human rights and livelihoods, and someone is willingly supporting a racist, sexist, homophobe etc. among many other things, that reflects on their character. And while I can tolerate that I could never be friends with that. That's my choice. I value character too much and no matter how nice someone is, if they're a ****** person on the inside, I'm done.
There's someone I see at work every day who I just keep learning more and more deplorable things about their character. As soon as they quit and move away next year I'm unfriending their ass SO fast. I just don't want to make it become a thing at work if they notice before they leave. Biding my time.
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I agree with you through and through. I'm not here for any of those things... and I have already went on facebook to say people can remove me if they voted Trump. I don't have a close friend circle so I don't really care. I don't need it in my life however.
I told my mom I was pretty depressed about the outcome and she said I should check myself into a local community mental health clinic  I can't believe this tbh. I am sure now that she secretly supports Trump.
It's really bringing people's true personalities to light.
she works at a school and just said, "people are upset it even has filtered into students today, whom thought their families would get sent out of the country, safe and how we are doomed... parents putting **** into kids heads, causing FEAR."
I'm so sad for the kids  wow...
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
How so? They made a lot of really great points tbh.
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It's extremely naive. Democrazy ends when you vote. After that they decide everything and they sure will
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