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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Achilles.
Last night I scared myself by imagining 20 years with Donald's anti-gay justices on the Supreme Court.
Overturning marriage equality would just be the start. Who knows how far they could go? Uphold laws allowing people to discriminate against us? Reinstate a ban on gays in the military? Put our parental rights in jeopardy? Overturn Lawrence v. Texas, allowing states to make it illegal for two men to have sex?
It's more terrifying than I ever realized.
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Their goal is to turn our human rights back to comparable to Putin's Russia - silenced and violently attacked. Hillary's opponent has NEVER said a bad thing about this man - this is why I can't possibly comprehend how other members of the LGBTQ+ community could possibly support him.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by RatedG˛
He probably wants to make sure his voters come out election day |
Everyone does, but when you're low on surrogates you shouldn't take any chances  He's a fool if he doesn't go Monday at least.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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just drove through my neighborhood and one street literally has a hillary kaine sign on every lawn, they werent there yesterday
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
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n don't do her like that
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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daniel a. smith @electionsmith 2h2 hours ago
Whoa...
Hispanic early in-person and vote-by-mail ballots cast in Florida has already topped the TOTAL # of EIP & VBM ballots cast by 217k
Yas  C'mon Boricua friends 
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Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by Mike91
The irony of Christie "prosecuting" Hillary at the republican convention. |
I was just about to post this the freakin nerve of that idiot 
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by aquarius
just drove through my neighborhood and one street literally has a hillary kaine sign on every lawn, they werent there yesterday
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I actually saw a bunch of new [pro-Hill] signs pop up around my neighborhood as well. Literally haven't seen anything in the last few months.. until today. 
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Member Since: 10/17/2011
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Going from Obama to Trump……. like HOW? :/
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
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no formal education, no one who has a clue would listen to her on this matter
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 11/5/2010
Posts: 7,796
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Originally posted by Achilles.
Last night I scared myself by imagining 20 years with Donald's anti-gay justices on the Supreme Court.
Overturning marriage equality would just be the start. Who knows how far they could go? Uphold laws allowing people to discriminate against us? Reinstate a ban on gays in the military? Put our parental rights in jeopardy? Overturn Lawrence v. Texas, allowing states to make it illegal for two men to have sex?
It's more terrifying than I ever realized.
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I know... and it's terrifying to know people don't see the bigger picture like you do.  I'm so done with half this country being regressive
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Ugh, I wish Manafort didn't talk Trump out of picking Christie for VP. 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Benzene
Ugh, I wish Manafort didn't talk Trump out of picking Christie for VP. |
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 25,228
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Originally posted by Nialler
no formal education, no one who has a clue would listen to her on this matter
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I'm surprised she's not voting for Trump.
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Mike91
I'm surprised she's not voting for Trump.
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are you sure she's not voting Trump?
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 11/14/2008
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Her classmates in high school had elected her as the girl “most likely to succeed,” and Alan Schechter, her thesis adviser at Wellesley, had written to Yale that she had “the intellectual ability, personality, and character to make a remarkable contribution to American society”—and the women around her in her early to mid-20s saw in her intoxicating potential. Her fellow students in college believed she could be the first woman president. Betsey Wright, a political consultant who worked with her in George McGovern’s presidential campaign in Texas in 1972, thought the same thing. When she told an older lawyer involved in the Watergate work that she wanted to be a trial attorney, he told her she couldn’t be because she wouldn’t “have a wife”—a wife, he explained, to buy the groceries and do the laundry and keep the home. She and some of the other women made a sign with a message and hung it next to the coffee machine. “The women in this office were not hired to make coffee,” it said. “Make it yourself …”
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People noticed. The New York Times did. “A graduate of Yale Law School who plays a mean jazz saxophone, Mr. Clinton,” the newspaper wrote in November of 1978 in a brief portrait about the new governor of Arkansas, “is married to an ardent feminist, Hilary Rodham”—mischaracterizing her while also misspelling her name—“who will certainly be the first first lady of Arkansas to keep her maiden name.”
The Arkansas Democrat noticed too. “Despite the fact that she keeps her maiden name,” the newspaper in Little Rock wrote, also misspelling her first name with one l, “the wife of Arkansas’s new governor, Bill Clinton, claims she’s really an old-fashioned girl.” She believed in hard work and the golden rule, she explained, but she stressed: “I need to maintain my interests and my commitments. I need my own identity, too.”
It mattered back at Wellesley. The 1969 class notes in the college’s alumnae magazine in the spring of 1979 made mention of “Hillary Rodham, the first lady of Arkansas—and the nation’s only first lady to have retained her maiden name.”
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When he ran for president in 1992, his wife burst forth as a new kind of woman on the national scene. “Not your normal first lady type, right?” said Patti Solis Doyle, a staffer of hers from the campaign. “She was strong. She was opinionated. She was definitely an equal partner.”
Hillary Rodham Clinton triggered all sorts of complicated emotions from the public in the 1992 60 Minutes interview in which she sat next to her husband and defended him in the face of flaring allegations of infidelity. She managed to offend a raft of women by saying snippily that she hadn’t stayed home to bake “cookies” and have “teas.” The campaign began to understand that she was seen as an asset by some, but that there was another, not insignificant group that viewed her as a liability.
“If the wife comes through as being too strong and too intelligent,” former president Richard Nixon told the New York Times, “it makes the husband look like a wimp.”
“While voters genuinely admire Hillary Clinton’s intelligence and tenacity,” Clinton pollsters Stan Greenberg and Celinda Lake wrote in a memo that spring, “they are uncomfortable with these traits in a woman.”
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In fact, in major national health care reform, Bill Clinton couldn’t have given his wife a more daunting, politically demanding task. And when it faltered, after Republicans had made her a singular subject of their opposition and ire—attacking it as “Hillarycare”—she retreated. She was blamed for the results of the midterm elections of 1994, which were disastrous for Democrats. And she again made the accommodations that were required. She was no longer involved in any efforts to write significant legislation. She all but disappeared from the West Wing. It’s what she had to do, she was told, by the public and by pollsters—just like in Arkansas in 1982—to give her husband a chance at re-election.
She didn’t disappear, and she didn’t turn silent. She used the uncommon platform her position afforded to reach an audience more receptive to her message. Women. Especially overseas.
She went in the spring of 1995 on a tour of South Asia, where she gave speeches on women’s rights. “Women,” she said in India, “have to be responsible for our own lives and our own futures...”
That fall, she accepted an invitation to go to China, to attend the fourth United Nations’ World Conference on Women. “I want to push the envelope as far as I can when it comes to women’s rights and human rights,” she told her speechwriter, Lissa Muscatine, Muscatine told biographer Cynthia Levinson.
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“She has come to the conclusion,” Blair wrote, “that no matter what she does, she is going to piss off some people, so will just continue to be herself and let everyone else make whatever adjustments they have to.”
Clinton, though, was the one who had made the adjustments. And where had it gotten her? “I know how to compromise,” she told Blair. “I have compromised. I gave up my name, got contact lenses …”
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VERY GOOD READ
GOD. This woman is IT. That autobiography when she is finished will be something to behold.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Mike91
I'm surprised she's not voting for Trump.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by foxaylove
VERY GOOD READ
GOD. This woman is IT. That autobiography when she is finished will be something to behold.
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Yes I read this on politico, thought this was amazing. Tuesday will be so important
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Minorities better get ready for their new homes if Trump wins. 
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