[Damien M]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Nothing points to anything you ever claim, but do you. The year of Trump and Pence allows these types of false accusations.

There was a huge NYT poll (and article) about this a few weeks back, but you're a delusional fan boy, so what would you know.

[Lord Blackout]

You know if Kaine resigns and Bernie takes over, a VP will be useful for once this election in bringing in voters.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Damien M

There was a huge NYT poll (and article) about this a few weeks back, but you're a delusional fan boy, so what would you know.

You've screamed record low turnout when the facts doesn't prove that.

Also even if she was to lose support compared to Obama (which she WILL), black voters have increased in population while whites have declined (and college educated are going towards her or third parties) makes that offset of votes irrelevant.

95% of 10% overall <<< 90% of 15% overall. Get it??? Blacks will secure NC this election when it didn't years ago. So she's in a pretty good place. Hillary has a millennial problem not a black vote problem. I'm not delusional.

[Damien M]

Originally posted by King Maxx

You've screamed record low turnout when the facts doesn't prove that.

Also even if she was to lose support compared to Obama (which she WILL), black voters have increased in population while whites have declined (and college educated are going towards her or third parties) makes that offset of votes irrelevant.

95% of 10% overall <<< 90% of 15% overall. Get it??? Blacks will secure NC this election when it didn't years ago. So she's in a pretty good place. Hillary has a millennial problem not a black vote problem. I'm not delusional.

LOL you're arguing about percentages, and I'm telling you the turnout will be 10 to 15 points lower than Obama.
Black voters haven't increased in population that much either. Good luck getting anyone other than older black women to show!

[Wonderland]

If Clinton wins North Carolina it's 100% over.

She could even afford to lose PA if that happened and they have her +10

[Mike91]

https://twitter.com/SportsKitten/sta...27099118354432

[Wonderland]

I'm a little concerned with Clinton's lead getting perceived to be too large. Complacency could really hurt her, especially if people think that they can afford to waste their vote on another candidate (or none at all) because she's so far in front.

[StephenNYMonster]

Pence wins is not a long term win because as soon as we get to the breakdown and analyse of what was actually said, Pence will look more and more foolish. He wins tonight due to composure and the moderator not doing her fact checking leaving Kaine to act out and having to clock every time a lie was said. When the breakdown happens, the debate win for Kaine will become more and more apparent.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Damien M

LOL you're arguing about percentages, and I'm telling you the turnout will be 10 to 15 points lower than Obama.
Black voters haven't increased in population that much either. Good luck getting anyone other than older black women to show!

Okay you're the delusional one. But we'll see on November 8.

Originally posted by Wonderland

I'm a little concerned with Clinton's lead getting perceived to be too large. Complacency could really hurt her, especially if people think that they can afford to waste their vote on another candidate (or none at all) because she's so far in front.

In August I would agree, but now she needs to be UP and big especially since 40-60% of all votes will come from early voting depending on the state. If she's up big, that means she's doing better in early voting and will help her target the last few she needs from the undecided going into the last 2-3 weeks.

If she's still up only 1-2 points by late-October, we have a problem. That means her base is not energetic at all.
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Also I remember people said Bernie and Trump won some primary debates. I didn't think they won a single one. Crazy how this electorate has come to view debates.

[Wonderland]

Originally posted by King Maxx

In August I would agree, but now she needs to be UP and big especially since 40-60% of all votes will come from early voting depending on the state. If she's up big, that means she's doing better in early voting and will help her target the last few she needs from the undecided going into the last 2-3 weeks.

If she's still up only 1-2 points by late-October, we have a problem. That means her base is not energetic at all.
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Also I remember people said Bernie and Trump won some primary debates. I didn't think they won a single one. Crazy how this electorate has come to view debates.

You're right it's not like her lead currently means nothing. In the times of early voting, it can mean a damn lot.

How is MO tracking by the way? Do we have any polls for there? I know Obama came super close in 2008 but has it only gotten redder since?

[King Maxx]

And you wanna talk about TURNOUT. Turnout of black vote has consistently increased since 1996. (From +50% to +60%)

If you think Hillary will go under 50%, you're delusional. It hasn't been that low since 1976.

[Damien M]

Bernie never won a single primary debate. Hillary won one(the first one). The rest were tied.
Trump won two (the first one and the one before SC when he pummeled the Bushes and people thought he was over).

[King Maxx]

While the 43 percent voter turnout (of voting-age blacks) was nine points lower than in 1972, nearly as many blacks voted in 1976 as did four years ago because of massive voter registration campaigns ...
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ss...201976&f=false

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/up...yond.html?_r=0

So basically voter turnout for blacks have never gone under 50% since 1964 (when the Voting Rights Act was passed). Nothing convinces me or the polls that Hillary is losing 10-15% as you claim.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Damien M

Bernie never won a single primary debate. Hillary won one(the first one). The rest were tied.
Trump won two (the first one and the one before SC when he pummeled the Bushes and people thought he was over).

The GOP is an intellectually challenged party.

[Achilles.]

One year anniversary. Time has gone so damn fast.

There are so many Hillary SNL sketches. Love them!

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Achilles.

One year anniversary. Time has gone so damn fast.

There are so many Hillary SNL sketches. Love them!

Iconic.

[Lord Blackout]

My favorite

[King Maxx]

Hillary needs to go on SNL again b4 the election. Hope she's booked for the last week of October.

She also needs to go full out like Obama did. (Ellen, Kimmel, etc.)

[Bey Admired]

Waking up to the news that Kaine did disastrously. That's what you get when you play to the status quo. Hillary's fault for choosing someone so clearly inept at debating.

[Wonderland]

Originally posted by Bey Admired

Waking up to the news that Kaine did disastrously. That's what you get when you play to the status quo. Hillary's fault for choosing someone so clearly inept at debating.

Disastrous is a bit of a stretch.