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Discussion: These WERE The Singles: '80-'84
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45. (TIE)
Musical Youth - Pass The Dutchie
6.7059
1982 Rank: #11
 #45 - 1 Scores11 - MP2K
10 - Ace Reject, Reverie
9 - Changes, Pink Matter
8.5 - Wicked
8 - Subomie, Eeveelution
7.5 - TheWayWeWere
7 -
6 - Fuzzylilkisses, Tom Vercetti, KingKunta, V3$$3L.
5 - Saskia
4 -
3 - Buyonce1814
2 -
1 - StonedSoulPicnic
0 - Paul McCutie
John Lennon - Just Like Starting Over
6.7059
1980 Rank: #10
#45 - 2 Scores
10 - TheWayWeWere, Paul McCutie
9 - Ace Reject
8.5 - MP2K, Tom Vercetti, Pink Matter
8 - Saskia, Eeveelution
7 -
6.5 - Reverie
6 - StonedSoulPicnic, Buyonce1814
5 - Fuzzylilkisses, Changes, KingKunta
4 - Subomie, V3$$3L.
3 -
2 - Wicked
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Kurtis Blow - The Breaks
6.7059
1980 Rank: #10
#45 - 3 Scores
10 - MP2K, Wicked
9 - Changes, V3$$3L.
8 -
7.5 - Reverie, Pink Matter
7 - Subomie, Buyonce1814
6.5 - TheWayWeWere, StonedSoulPicnic
6 - Ace Reject, Saskia, Tom Vercetti, Eeveelution
5 - KingKunta
4 -
3 - Fuzylilkisses
2 - Paul McCutie
1 -
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Now a 3-way tie with little in common! Some youngsters doing reggae about drugs, a posthumous smash from a legendary rocker and one of the breakthrough songs for hip hop as a genre. We starting off intense already, including a first 11 
All good songs too (though the Lennon one is a bit narm for me). Was going to make a big deal of Kurtis being the #1 for 1980's list but apparently Laurie Anderson was 1981's #1 and we dumped her ages ago so oop. There's worse songs still in mind you.
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Ya'll did Sucker MC's wrong. That song being that low is utterly disgusting.
Meh at The Breaks going. It's bonfide classic but like a lot of early 80s rap, is corny as hell.
For Kurtis Blow I prefer "Basketball"
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Pass The Dutchie was ROBBED. The Tatianna of this rate
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Pass the Dutchie is okay. I'm not a stan of it tho.
Just Starting Over is nice.
Now I like The Breaks but it's one of those too long for its own good kind of songs and doesn't keep me all the way through.
Nothing bad.
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Pass The Dutchie is so iconic nn, didn't the term start the "dutch(ie)" drug slang? They changed it to that to disassociate with the original title but everyone knew it was about drugs so the new title ended up becoming even more drug-associated.
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Originally posted by KingKunta
Ya'll did Sucker MC's wrong. That song being that low is utterly disgusting.
Meh at The Breaks going. It's bonfide classic but like a lot of early 80s rap, is corny as hell.
For Kurtis Blow I prefer "Basketball"
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Yes, early rap years are jarring for anyone not knowing what to expect. The scene shift even in this rate is amazing to watch/hear.
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Pass The Dutchie was a bop 
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Originally posted by KingKunta
Ya'll did Sucker MC's wrong. That song being that low is utterly disgusting.
Meh at The Breaks going. It's bonfide classic but like a lot of early 80s rap, is corny as hell.
For Kurtis Blow I prefer "Basketball"
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How I felt about most, if not all of the rap singles in this rate.
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Originally posted by Subomie
Pass The Dutchie is so iconic nn, didn't the term start the "dutch(ie)" drug slang? They changed it to that to disassociate with the original title but everyone knew it was about drugs so the new title ended up becoming even more drug-associated.
Yes, early rap years are jarring for anyone not knowing what to expect. The scene shift even in this rate is amazing to watch/hear.
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They tried to say it was about a cooking pot. 
Fun Fact: Pass The Dutchie was the first video played by a black artist on MTV.
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Originally posted by Pink Matter
Pass The Dutchie was a bop
How I felt about most, if not all of the rap singles in this rate. |
As long as you didn't do The Message like that. If you did we gonna be fighting sis.
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The Message is a solid 10.
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Originally posted by Tom Vercetti
Now I like The Breaks but it's one of those too long for its own good kind of songs and doesn't keep me all the way through.
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Speaking of...
44.
Grandmaster Flash - The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel
6.7235
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1981 Rank: #9
#44 Scores
10 - MP2K, StonedSoulPicnic
9 - Changes, KingKunta, V3$$3L.
8.5 - Wicked, Pink Matter
8 - Tom Vercetti, Reverie
7.3 - Saskia
7 -
6.5 - Subomie, TheWayWeWere
6 - Ace Reject
5 - Fuzzylilkisses
4 -
3 -
2 - Eeveelution
1 - Buyonce1814
0 - Paul McCutie
Catchy but not my favourite from the Grandmaster. The samples are all cute and from great songs but spread over 7 minutes and patience can dwindle. There's worse left of course, but this isn't a major loss for me. Some of the upcoming cuts however...
43.
Pretenders - Back On the Chain Gang
6.7941
1982 Rank: #10
#43 Scores
10 - Ace Reject, V3$$3L.
9 - TheWayWeWere, StonedSoulPicnic, Saskia
8.5 - Pink Matter
8 - MP2K, Buynce1814
7 - Subomie, Wicked, Reverie
6 - Fuzzylilkisses, Changes
5 -
4 - Eeveelution, KingKunta
3 -
2 - Tom Vercetti
1 - Paul McCutie
0 -
Ace Reject called this his second 11 as if I would let that fly, kii. Poor Ace and poor Pretenders. This is a very pleasant song but like all Pretenders songs in the rate I could feel myself wanting to like it more than I did. Will Brass in Pocket make the Top 30 or will we see them again tonight?
42.
Run-D.M.C. - It's Like That
6.8059
1983 Rank: #9
#42 Scores
10 - MP2K, V3$$3L.
9 - KingKunta
8.2 - Wicked
8 - Subomie, Paul McCutie, Ace Reject
7.5 - Saskia
7 - Tom Vercetti
6.5 - Pink Matter
6 - Changes, Buyonce1814
5.5 - TheWayWeWere, Eeveelution
5 - Fuzzylilkisses
4 -
3.5 - Reverie
3 -
2 - StonedSoulPicnic
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As Prince would put it: controversy.
Reverie sis, are you pressed this comes up before Mariah's song in predictive search?
This feels classic to me, a lot more... close to rap as I knew it than a lot of the other songs here. As a white kid that knew nothing of rap history until the last few years even I knew this song before rating and I ain't even talking about the Jason Nevins mess. Even Paul gave this an 8 (nn let me double check the ballot tho cus that seems out of character) so this crash and burn ain't cute. Poor Run.
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Originally posted by Subomie
Speaking of...
44.
Grandmaster Flash - The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel
6.7235
1981 Rank: #9
#44 Scores
10 - MP2K, StonedSoulPicnic
9 - Changes, KingKunta, V3$$3L.
8.5 - Wicked, Pink Matter
8 - Tom Vercetti, Reverie
7.3 - Saskia
7 -
6.5 - Subomie, TheWayWeWere
6 - Ace Reject
5 - Fuzzylilkisses
4 -
3 -
2 - Eeveelution
1 - Buyonce1814
0 - Paul McCutie
Catchy but not my favourite from the Grandmaster. The samples are all cute and from great songs but spread over 7 minutes and patience can dwindle. There's worse left of course, but this isn't a major loss for me. Some of the upcoming cuts however...
43.
Pretenders - Back On the Chain Gang
6.7941
1982 Rank: #10
#43 Scores
10 - Ace Reject, V3$$3L.
9 - TheWayWeWere, StonedSoulPicnic, Saskia
8.5 - Pink Matter
8 - MP2K, Buynce1814
7 - Subomie, Wicked, Reverie
6 - Fuzzylilkisses, Changes
5 -
4 - Eeveelution, KingKunta
3 -
2 - Tom Vercetti
1 - Paul McCutie
0 -
Ace Reject called this his second 11 as if I would let that fly, kii. Poor Ace and poor Pretenders. This is a very pleasant song but like all Pretenders songs in the rate I could feel myself wanting to like it more than I did. Will Brass in Pocket make the Top 30 or will we see them again tonight?
42.
Run-D.M.C. - It's Like That
6.8059
1983 Rank: #9
#42 Scores
10 - MP2K, V3$$3L.
9 - KingKunta
8.2 - Wicked
8 - Subomie, Paul McCutie, Ace Reject
7.5 - Saskia
7 - Tom Vercetti
6.5 - Pink Matter
6 - Changes, Buyonce1814
5.5 - TheWayWeWere, Eeveelution
5 - Fuzzylilkisses
4 -
3.5 - Reverie
3 -
2 - StonedSoulPicnic
1 -
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As Prince would put it: controversy.
Reverie sis, are you pressed this comes up before Mariah's song in predictive search?
This feels classic to me, a lot more... close to rap as I knew it than a lot of the other songs here. As a white kid that knew nothing of rap history until the last few years even I knew this song before rating and I ain't even talking about the Jason Nevins mess. Even Paul gave this an 8 (nn let me double check the ballot tho cus that seems out of character) so this crash and burn ain't cute. Poor Run. |
Was not feeling that Pretenders song at all. Not my thing. And yeah that Grandmaster flash song was but I actually liked it. I would've gave it a better score had it been more consistent. It's like that isn't run dmc's best song so i'm fine seeing it leave.
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Originally posted by KingKunta
As long as you didn't do The Message like that. If you did we gonna be fighting sis.
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It got a cute 7 from me 
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No real losses here, but Back on the Chain Gang was good 
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Originally posted by KingKunta
They tried to say it was about a cooking pot.
Fun Fact: Pass The Dutchie was the first video played by a black artist on MTV. |
apparently: "Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson was the first music video by an African-American artist to be played on MTV. "
BUT
"Musical Youth became the first black artists to appear in a studio segment on MTV"
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The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel is really cool at times but the editing/constant skipping annoys me
Nnnn I don't even like Mariah's like that! I was definitely too hard on them but I just wasn't feeling it atm. Not Paul being nicer than me
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Hip hop heads look away.
41.
Afrika Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock
6.9118
1982 Rank: #7
#41 Scores
10 - MP2K, StonedSoulPicnic, Changes, V3$$3L.
9 - Wicked
8 - Ace Reject, Tom Vercetti, KingKunta
7.5 - Subomie, Pink Matter
7 -
6.5 - TheWayWeWere
6 - Saskia
5 - Reverie
4 - Fuzzylilkisses, Buyonce1814
3 - Eeveelution
2 -
1 - Paul McCutie
0 -
Songs like these are what I was hoping and expecting to find here. Like history being made, just a few tracks (though some lasting for ages nn) but what they represent is just interesting to finally see. Like Ace said about Joy Division in terms of quality vs. impact. Personally I think it has both but y'all had different ideas.
40.
Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel - White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)
6.9294
1983 Rank: #8
#40 Scores
10 - Ace Reject
9 - StonedSoulPicnic, Eeveelution
8 - KingKunta, Buyonce1814, V3$$3L.
7.3 - Wicked
7 - MP2K, Fuzzylilkisses, Pink Matter
6 - Subomie, Paul McCutie, Saskia
5 - Changes, Tom Vercetti, Reverie
4.5 - TheWayWeWere
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Like always, it's the songs that are not necessarily loved that go further but the ones that get the least hate. This makes sense, it's one of those rap records with a message. Not my favourite and it's no "The Message" but it's pleasant. Fun fact: Grandmaster Flash isn't actually on this, just Melle Mel. They just wanted to trick people into buying it I guess.
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Afrika Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force - Looking for the Perfect Beat
6.9882
1983 Rank: #7
#39 Scores
10 - Tom Vercetti, Reverie
9 - V3$$3L.
8 - Subomie, MP2K, StonedSoulPicnic, Ace Reject, Wicked, Eeveelution
7.3 - Saskia
7 - Changes, Pink Matter, Buyonce1814
6.5 - TheWayWeWere
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4 - KingKunta
3 - Fuzzylilkisses
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0 - Paul McCutie
take what I posted about Planet Rock times 10 here. Serious bop category here, the robot rock mixed in with the rapping. What kind of amazing collision of genres? Whew, why y'all hating on it? This could've made Top 20 or 10 and I wouldn't complain. Better than some **** y'all actually put in the Top 10. 
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Originally posted by Tom Vercetti
Was not feeling that Pretenders song at all. Not my thing. And yeah that Grandmaster flash song was but I actually liked it. I would've gave it a better score had it been more consistent. It's like that isn't run dmc's best song so i'm fine seeing it leave. |
I really enjoy It's Like That but I prefer Sucker Mc's even more.
The main reason I even half listen to early 80s rap is for the beat. The flow is so awkward to listen to at times.
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Originally posted by Saskia
apparently: "Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson was the first music video by an African-American artist to be played on MTV. "
BUT
"Musical Youth became the first black artists to appear in a studio segment on MTV"
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Nah Billie Jean was the first video by a black artist to be put into heavy rotation.
Pass The Dutchie was the first overall I believe.
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The Afrika Bambaataa & Grand Master massacre LFTPB
I remember when it was played in that Proud Family Movie. Loved that scene in particular 
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