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Discussion: Why did Bey & P!nk outlast Brit, Xtina & JLO?
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
You may as well attach the touring receipts as well.  |
There's no information on Pink's touring in her receipts thread, and Xtine has not toured.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
jennifers at 33 million albums just of certified sales alone SIS and like i said
JLo sold more albums WW then beyonce and JLo has released 7 English studio albums and beyonce has released 6
if you want to add all album sales then beyonce's spanish record she put makes 7 and how many re-releases of her albums is there? how many more singles has released? and shes a big touring act and yet equal in sales with JLo whos only done 1 tour 12 years into her career released less singles and only put out 2 re-releases
dont that make JLos success even better shes done way less then beyonce musically and still seen the same album sales (outsold her outside the US)
AND LIKE I SAID BEYONCE IS MILLIONS OF ALBUMS BEHIND PINK, XTINA, BRITNEY
beyonce stays doing the most over her peers but has yet to out sell them
im done with this I respect beyonce as a performer and think the lemonade short film was absolutey fantastic and shes light years artistically over all her peers but stop down playing other peoples success to make beyonces shine |
Why r u so fed up tho? Bey will always remain way (!) more successful musically speaking than Jlo in the publics eye. Jlo is doing fine, but she is not on Bey's level.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
jennifers at 33 million albums just of certified sales alone SIS and like i said
JLo sold more albums WW then beyonce and JLo has released 7 English studio albums and beyonce has released 6
if you want to add all album sales then beyonce's spanish record she put makes 7 and how many re-releases of her albums is there? how many more singles has released? and shes a big touring act and yet equal in sales with JLo whos only done 1 tour 12 years into her career released less singles and only put out 2 re-releases
dont that make JLos success even better shes done way less then beyonce musically and still seen the same album sales (outsold her outside the US)
AND LIKE I SAID BEYONCE IS MILLIONS OF ALBUMS BEHIND PINK, XTINA, BRITNEY
beyonce stays doing the most over her peers but has yet to out sell them
im done with this I respect beyonce as a performer and think the lemonade short film was absolutey fantastic and shes light years artistically over all her peers but stop down playing other peoples success to make beyonces shine |
Jlo did not outsell Beyoncé. Until you can prove that her sales are outdated and "undercertified" then she sold LESS albums than Beyoncé with MORE releases. And do not act like the sales from the remix album, the Spanish album and the Greatest Hits album aren't counted in that 33M total. Otherwise her total sales would be even lower  . Beyoncé's 35M total is from her 6 studio albums only. And I'm confused as to why you would mention Beyoncé's touring power ? I mean, she became a huge touring force in 2009 and at the time she was already outselling Jlo by a VERY large margin. Nowadays you cannot even compare them anymore. Lemonade outsold AKA in a few hours 
Anyway, I'm not gonna "put other artists down to make Beyoncé shine". And I'm not gonna go back and forth with you either. Billboard already clocked it, Beyoncé has the bigger musical career. More albums and singles sold, more top 10, more top 20 etc etc. And that's not even counting DC 
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Originally posted by FBF
There's no information on Pink's touring in her receipts thread, and Xtine has not toured.
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Besides, Bey, Pink is the only one out of the other three to place a tour in the top 10 female touring list. That should tell you all you need to know.
Bey has two placements.
Pink is sitting outside the top 10 @ 11
Brit and JLo can't be found and have never been in the top 10 of the list period.
IDK why people are still having this argument. Musically, Bey and Pink>>>>the others. The numbers are there.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
jennifers at 33 million albums just of certified sales alone SIS and like i said
JLo sold more albums WW then beyonce and JLo has released 7 English studio albums and beyonce has released 6
if you want to add all album sales then beyonce's spanish record she put makes 7 and how many re-releases of her albums is there? how many more singles has released? and shes a big touring act and yet equal in sales with JLo whos only done 1 tour 12 years into her career released less singles and only put out 2 re-releases
dont that make JLos success even better shes done way less then beyonce musically and still seen the same album sales (outsold her outside the US)
AND LIKE I SAID BEYONCE IS MILLIONS OF ALBUMS BEHIND PINK, XTINA, BRITNEY
beyonce stays doing the most over her peers but has yet to out sell them
im done with this I respect beyonce as a performer and think the lemonade short film was absolutey fantastic and shes light years artistically over all her peers but stop down playing other peoples success to make beyonces shine |
You contradict yourself because with ten releases Jen has sold 33m but if you take away the remix album her greatest hits and her Spanish album then she loses 5.7m albums so technically Jlo has sold 27m English studio albums which is less than the 6 studio albums Bey released which sales stand at over 35m. She released a Spanish EP not an album so you cant go saying that counts towards another album. Bottom line is Beyoncé has sold more records (Albums and singles) than JLO, as a solo artist and as part of DC. End of.
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Originally posted by Crescendolls.
Jlo did not outsell Beyoncé. Until you can prove that her sales are outdated and "undercertified" then she sold LESS albums than Beyoncé with MORE releases. And do not act like the sales from the remix album, the Spanish album and the Greatest Hits album aren't counted in that 33M total. Otherwise her total sales would be even lower . Beyoncé's 35M total is from her 6 studio albums only. And I'm confused as to why you would mention Beyoncé's touring power ? I mean, she became a touring force in 2009 and at the time she was already outselling Jlo by a VERY large margin. Nowadays you cannot even compare them anymore. Lemonade outsold AKA in a few hours
Anyway, I'm not gonna "put other artists down to make Beyoncé shine". And I'm not gonna go back and forth with you either. Billboard already clocked it, Beyoncé has the bigger musical career. More albums and singles sold, more top 10, more top 20 etc etc. And that's not even counting DC |
I live.
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Originally posted by QueenB4
You contradict yourself because with ten releases Jen has sold 33m but if you take away the remix album her greatest hits and her Spanish album then she loses 5.7m albums so technically Jlo has sold 27m English studio albums which is less than the 6 studio albums Bey released which sales stand at over 35m. She released a Spanish EP not an album so you cant go saying that counts towards another album. Bottom line is Beyoncé has sold more records (Albums and singles) than JLO, as a solo artist and as part of DC. End of.
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no i didnt I said there just her certified sales shes at 33 million
and she has not outsold JLo in album sales outside the US even going by certified REPORTED sales
keep trying
all that tour gross yet barley passing 1.4 million outside the US can you explain why this is?
and like i said why has she not sold more then albums then the other 3 ladies aswell care to explain why? after all shes the biggest touring act of this generation should she be pulling at least taylor swifts numbers? explain why she hasnt?
i mean beyonces barely selling 3.5 million records (album/singles) combied outside the US with each release this decade why is this?
LIKE CANT GET WW HIT SINGLES AND SHES SELLING LIKE 1.5 million albums OUTSIDE the US hardly outstanding numbers for some one her ''calibre''.... her tours dont translate into sales or single success
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
Besides, Bey, Pink is the only one out of the other three to place a tour in the top 10 female touring list. That should tell you all you need to know.
Bey has two placements.
Pink is sitting outside the top 10 @ 11
Brit and JLo can't be found and have never been in the top 10 of the list period.
IDK why people are still having this argument. Musically, Bey and Pink>>>>the others. The numbers are there.
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Ok.
I didn't know touring was the only thing to take into account 
And I'm not having an argument about Beyoncé doing the same as Pink, Brit, JLO. I'm having an argument about Pink, Brit and JLO having sold more or less the same amount of records this decade, therefore nobody outlasted nobody. Pink, Brit and JLO have debuted around the same time, Beyoncé 4 years later. Beyoncé is not Pink, Brit, JLO peers.
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Originally posted by FBF
Ok.
I didn't know touring was the only thing to take into account
And I'm not having an argument about Beyoncé doing the same as Pink, Brit, JLO. I'm having an argument about Pink, Brit and JLO having sold more or less the same amount of records this decade, therefore nobody outlasted nobody. Pink, Brit and JLO have debuted around the same time, Beyoncé 4 years later. Beyoncé is not Pink, Brit, JLO peers. |
Well, in terms of outlasting someone, I would think all parameters would be evaluated. I'm not to familiar with Pink's records sales this decade. I just know her last solo effort did really well.
And Bey has been around as long as Pink, Brit, and JLo, so I don't know why they wouldn't be her peers.
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Bey is bigger than JLo in sales, why are you even trying it? She was in a group that sold 35 million albums and has sold like 32 million solo. That is bigger than just having solo career sales.
No mention of combining sales so don't try that either.
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Beyoncé didn't outlast anyone, she's a touring act at this point. Pink has always been a non-factor.
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
Well, in terms of outlasting someone, I would think all parameters would be evaluated. I'm not to familiar with Pink's records sales this decade. I just know her last solo effort did really well.
And Bey has been around as long as Pink, Brit, and JLo, so I don't know why they wouldn't be her peers.
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So you don't read the post you're quoting. It's fun to converse with you. I'm done here then 
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
no i didnt I stated sales shes certified in
refelct and she has not outsold JLo in album sales even going by certified REPORTED sales
keep trying
all that tour gross gross yet barley passing 1.4 million outside the US can you explain why this is?
and like i said why has she not sold more then albums then the other 3 ladies aswell care to explain why? after all shes the biggest touring act of this generation should she be pulling at least taylor swifts numbers? explain why she hasnt?
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Seriously you are one of the most delusional people I have ever came across on this entire site. Keep believing Jens sold more albums the Bey petal. If it makes you feel better to kid yourself go right ahead.
Stop acting like selling 1.4m outside the US in this sales climate is anything to scoff at, when was the last time JLO seen that number for an albums total overall sales. LOL!
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
no i didnt I said there just her certified sales shes at 33 million
and she has not outsold JLo in album sales outside the US even going by certified REPORTED sales
keep trying
all that tour gross yet barley passing 1.4 million outside the US can you explain why this is?
and like i said why has she not sold more then albums then the other 3 ladies aswell care to explain why? after all shes the biggest touring act of this generation should she be pulling at least taylor swifts numbers? explain why she hasnt?
i mean beyonces barely selling 3.5 million records (album/singles) combied outside the US with each release this decade why is this?
LIKE CANT GET WW HIT SINGLES AND SHES SELLING LIKE 1.5 million albums OUTSIDE the US hardly outstanding numbers for some one her ''calibre''.... her tours dont translate into sales or single success
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This whole post is ironic as ****, considering Bey's last album and singles have outsold JLo's albums and singles and her current tour has outgrossed any JLo tour period. You could probably add them all up collectively and they still wouldn't outgross FWT. Why are you coming for Bey's success when she has surpassed JLo in every arena?
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Originally posted by FBF
So you don't read the post you're quoting. It's fun to converse with you. I'm done here then |
I know that Pink's last album outsold all three, Xtina, Brit, and Jlo album combined. And that pretty much says it all for me. Bye bye.
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
I know that Pink's last album outsold all three, Xtina, Brit, and Jlo album combined. And that pretty much says it all for me. Bye bye.
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It also outsold the last two efforts from Beyoncé combined. That pretty much says it all as well ?
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Originally posted by FBF
This decade :
Pink
Albums : 6M (Pink's receipts thread don't provide sales estimate for Rose ave..)
Singles : 21,6M
Total records sold : 27,6M
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I see you've conveniently left out the best selling greatest hits album of the past 10+ years.
And P!nk has sold ~35M singles since 2010, not including catalog sales. (It's in the receipts thread!)
So that's about 45M records.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
no i didnt I said there just her certified sales shes at 33 million
and she has not outsold JLo in album sales outside the US even going by certified REPORTED sales
keep trying
all that tour gross yet barley passing 1.4 million outside the US can you explain why this is?
and like i said why has she not sold more then albums then the other 3 ladies aswell care to explain why? after all shes the biggest touring act of this generation should she be pulling at least taylor swifts numbers? explain why she hasnt?
i mean beyonces barely selling 3.5 million records (album/singles) combied outside the US with each release this decade why is this?
LIKE CANT GET WW HIT SINGLES AND SHES SELLING LIKE 1.5 million albums OUTSIDE the US hardly outstanding numbers for some one her ''calibre''.... her tours dont translate into sales or single success
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"She has x amount of IG followers, therefore she should be selling x amount of albums" teas
You do know more copies, if not the same, of Lemonade have been bought than the amount of tickets sold on the FWT tour, right? Do you think Adele, for example, had 20-30M+ people purchase tour tickets just because her albums sold that much?
Lastly, Beyoncé is the bigger artist. End of
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Originally posted by FBF
It also outsold the last two efforts from Beyoncé combined. That pretty much says it all as well ? |
Well, ****. Slay Pink. So, I guess we can say that they both outlasted the other three. Especially since Lemonade has already outsold their last albums, combined, as well.
Glad we could finally come to the same conclusion.
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Originally posted by Underdogs
I see you've conveniently left out the best selling greatest hits album of the past 10+ years.
And P!nk has sold ~35M singles since 2010, not including catalog sales. (It's in the receipts thread!)
So that's about 45M records.
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2011-2020. I'm not conveniently leaving out anything, y'all are getting tiring with your little superiority complexes wanting to fight all the time over anything, just say your definition of a decade is 2010-2019, and that's it.
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