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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
CNN reporting Trump is barely studying for these debates. Lol, if its a repeat of the GOP debates he's in for a rude awakening
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He really thinks, "all I have to do is show up and get personal with her, just to rattle the cage." Poor things is in for a rude awakening when it comes down policy discussions. The moderators won't give them free passes. They'll both have to answer with as much vigor and details as possible. It's really gonna be must see tv 
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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
Let's not act as if people are voting for Jill because Hillary's policies suck. Jill literally is the worst candidate in history and I say that because she's a career candidate at this point. Her platform is embarrassingly laughable and everything about her is laughable. She's to the left what Trump is to the right. Difference is the left has smarter people.
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Jill Stein is easily one of the weakest Green Party nominees in a good minute. As for Libertarian...they chose the wrong guy. Nothing against Gary Johnson, but from the Town Halls they did, Bill Weld seemed more impressive. He also at times did more talking.
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Gary better brace himself, the media's coming again.
At a rally he made a mistake and said "Thank goodness no one got hurt" by the bombs going off in NY and a stabber in Minnesota. 29 people were in the hospital in NYC and 9 in Minnesota...
NYT already has an article up.
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Its odd how someone with so much experience in politics and running campaigns is capable of such mistakes - if you can call them mistakes.
There is no excuses, really. Gary Johnson only really has his self to blame. This was a real chance for the Libertarian Party with Clinton and Trump being disliked by so many Americans. Unfortunately, it's looking like chance wasted with the way he's been acting up lately.
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Trump up 3 points in Georgia in new poll. A very close one.
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You know, with all these endless discussions of emails, I sure would love to read some of those "lost" 22 million emails from the George W. Bush administration. You know, the emails that were stored on the RNC server, where from there, they conveniently disappeared when it was time to turn them over? Would love to see them for the sake of transparency and all 
This is part of the reason I just can't take any GOP criticism of emails all that serious. Not when they kick-started the 21st century in our government communication system with that debacle. Email as an official means of communication really picked up steam at the turn of the century, when we were getting acclimated with millions of computer installations in American homes, yearly.
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Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.
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Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email server—its was owned by the Republican National Committee. And the Bush administration failed to store its emails, as required by law, and then refused to comply with a congressional subpoena seeking some of those emails. “It’s about as amazing a double standard as you can get,” says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. “If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers’ emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails set up on a private DNC server?”
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http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/g...ls-497373.html
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My Republican friend and I are going to be watching the presidential debate at a restaurant! Cant wait! .... O/T why are guests banned here?
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Originally posted by KimmyBella
My Republican friend and I are going to be watching the presidential debate at a restaurant! Cant wait! .... O/T why are guests banned here?
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Probably server issues.
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Originally posted by Benzene
A major domestic terror attack is on the list of things that I think could drive people towards Trump. Alleged bomber is Afghan, though a US citizen.
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Is this really the case though? I mean Americans know Obama got Bid Laden for example. Democrats aren't seen as soft on terrorism like the GOP tries to paint. Wouldn't people want "war hawkish" former SOS Clinton to deal with ISIS over a basically a businessman outsider? I mean deep Trump voters are already lost but surely undecideds who are afraid of terrorists attack/want ISIS demolished would lean toward Clinton more?
Sorry I don't really know how issues like these work. I mean I'd rather have someone who has experience in the time of ISIS over Trump if I was a one-issue (focused) voter. So I'm... missing something.
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Originally posted by Achilles.
I just woke up from a dream where Hillary was doing a fundraiser on a boat and Sarah Palin and Donald Trump were sitting behind her (Trump was waving his hand like he had a flag, except his hand was empty; he kinda looked like he was on sedatives). Then some random Republican guy pushed Hillary overboard into the water... And she leapt out of the water, grabbed him by the lapel, and singlehandedly dragged him off to wherever the Secret Service were.  |
I believe in prophetic dreams and this tell me that she's going to defeat some random Republican challenger backed by Trump/Palin 
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Trump is a male, and society still has this perception that he'll be "tough".
But no seriously I don't think it'll convince a lot of people to go to him. He'll look stupid in the debates, and the past terrorist attacks during the summer did not help him much. I remember when the Orlando shooting occurred, and Hillary was the one who gained in the polls when asked who will be better to defeat terrorism.
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If someone supports Clinton then chances are they trust her more on national security anyway. Trump doesn't have a monopoly on it.
Saying a terrorist attack will drive voters to Trump only concedes that he has the better plan, tbh.
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Anyway the three debate "topics" are:
America's Direction
Achieving Prosperity
Securing America
Could they get any less specific?  At least Trump won't be able to rehearse answers word for word.
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Those are very broad topics but I can see how specific themes can fit into each. I can see how Clinton will have a difficult time making the case America is headed in the right direction while also trying to appeal to those who felt left out during Obama's tenure. Either way, I am looking forward to the debates next week.
The stakes are high but Clinton tends to do well when she needs to pull it off.
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They banned earpieces this time around so there will be no #LaueringTheBar hopefully.
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Might as well list "Make America Great Again" as one of the topics. Mess.
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This is interesting, particularly as it is after the first debate.
POLITICO: CNN to host town hall with Obama
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CNN’s chief Washington correspondent Jake Tapper will moderate “CNN Presidential Town Hall: America’s Military and the Commander in Chief,” which will center around national security, veterans issues and foreign policy as it relates to the U.S. military.
The town hall, which will air at 9 p.m. on September 28, will be held in Fort Lee, Virginia. At the event, Obama will take questions from the audience, which will be comprised of service members, veterans and others in the military community, the cable channel said.
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This was a really interesting read and made valid points about Trump's so called "white working-class" support.
POLITICO: What's Going on With America's White People?
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Donald Trump’s appeals to working-class white Americans have no doubt stoked racial tensions. But his popularity among these voters has also put an unexpected spotlight on their grievances—whether they feel left behind by globalization and immigration or resentful of an elite political class that seems to ignore them. Do poor white Americans suddenly feel more disgruntled than ever, or are the rest of us just now paying attention? How much of their pique has to do with economic factors versus matters of race or, simply, health? And what does it all mean for American politics—in 2016 and beyond?
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Originally posted by geo
Anyway the three debate "topics" are:
America's Direction
Achieving Prosperity
Securing America
Could they get any less specific? At least Trump won't be able to rehearse answers word for word. |
So broad. Lmao. The first sounds like a heavy portion on domestic policy, the 2nd is the town hall so it'll be undecideds asking about how they'll fix specific issues, and the last one sounds like national security.
That's how it was in 2012.
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They just said on the news that more people have registered to vote in my state in the past 30 days than in the past three years combined.
I'm hoping it was mostly POC and recently-of-age voters (18-23) rather than disgruntled small town white men. 
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Originally posted by Achilles.
They just said on the news that more people have registered to vote in my state in the past 30 days than in the past three years combined.
I'm hoping it was mostly POC and recently-of-age voters (18-23) rather than disgruntled small town white men. |
What state?
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Originally posted by geo
Anyway the three debate "topics" are:
America's Direction
Achieving Prosperity
Securing America
Could they get any less specific? At least Trump won't be able to rehearse answers word for word. |
I am NOT ready for Trump to use immigration fearmongering and email smokescreens to try to deflect attention from the fatal lashings he will be getting about Putin in the third debate. 
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CT. About 15K newly registered voters in the past month.
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