[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Benzene

Hillary will speak at the National Baptist Convention on Thursday.

So much for being silent. Tons of speeches, rallies, and events and has the press with her at all times until Election Day.

Originally posted by Mike91

Stein and Johnson need to go. You don't get to show up every 4 years to try and be a spoiler.

If you want to be taken seriously as a party/candidate, then don't wait until the last minute to try and win people's votes.

I can at least see Gary who was once Governor, and actually has some dedicated support.

But Stein has never held prominent office and is sitting at 2%.

[@michael]

Originally posted by King Maxx

So much for being silent. Tons of speeches, rallies, and events and has the press with her at all times until Election Day.

But... but...
PRESS CONFERENCES! EMAILS!

[Concrete]

Welp. The media has their horserace. Hillary's down 2 in CNN's new poll. Maybe they can stop pushing the faux outrage over the Clinton Foundation now and star focusing on Trump's actual pay to play with Bondi

And no, Clinton's September schedule is still not up to snuff. For her sake and frankly, the sake of the world, she cannot afford to be complacent. She needs to campaign her heart out.

She has 9 days of no public event after September 8th. Unacceptable

[Benzene]

CNN with a fresh new poll showing a whiter than 2012 electorate that has Clinton winning whites with college degrees by 13 but somehow down two (meanwhile NBC is unchanged at H+6). Get those ratings up CNN, I know y'all are mad even MSNBC passed you.

[Concrete]

Originally posted by Benzene

CNN with a fresh new poll showing a whiter than 2012 electorate that has Clinton winning whites with college degrees by 13 but somehow down two (meanwhile NBC is unchanged at H+6). Get those ratings up CNN, I know y'all are mad even MSNBC passed you.

It really is pathetic but there's no doubt the race is tight

The Hillary campaign really has been sloppy.

[midnightdawn]

Originally posted by Benzene

(meanwhile NBC is unchanged at H+6):

That was only registered voters, CNN was likely voters

[Benzene]

Originally posted by Concrete

It really is pathetic but there's no doubt the race is tight

The Hillary campaign really has been sloppy.

Oh I have no doubt the race is tight, that's just the way our elections are. But no, I do not believe Trump is winning or even within MoE.

That said I prefer tighter polls, complacency depresses turnout. I just hate when the media is so transparent about it.

[Benzene]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

That was only registered voters, CNN was likely voters

Funny how you skipped over everything else. And I care about the trend more than the absolute number.

[TaggedGalaxy]

Polls always get tighter the closer we get to election day, the media is making it a bigger deal than it actually is to give the illusion of a tight race. Anyone with only 1%, if that, of the AA vote is not becoming President, he just doesn't have the support in the other demographics to make up for this huge deficiency.

[midnightdawn]

It's not inevitable that polls will get close near election day, nor a media led conspiracy. Obama moved further ahead in polls in 2008 as election day neared.

[Benzene]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

It's not inevitable that polls will get close near election day, nor a media led conspiracy. Obama moved further ahead in polls in 2008 as election day neared.

2008 was a foregone conclusion with Bush's massive unpopularity. In 2012 the polls seriously tightened in October (Romney was actually ahead for some time) and the night before election day Obama's lead in RCP was < 1. He won in an electoral landslide that was completely predictable, but you wouldn't have known it from the media coverage.

[midnightdawn]

Originally posted by Benzene

2008 was a foregone conclusion with Bush's massive unpopularity. In 2012 the polls seriously tightened in October (Romney was actually ahead for some time) and the night before election day Obama's lead in RCP was < 1. He won in an electoral landslide that was completely predictable, but you wouldn't have known it from the media coverage.

2012 is the anomaly. I don't think anyone could have predicted how well Obama's voter turnout would work. 2000 and 2004 the polls were extremely close because both elections were close. Hillary is not going to turn out voters like Obama did. Today's CNN poll has her more unpopular than Trump.

[Wonderland]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

2012 is the anomaly. I don't think anyone could have predicted how well Obama's voter turnout would work. 2000 and 2004 the polls were extremely close because both elections were close. Hillary is not going to turn out voters like Obama did. Today's CNN poll has her more unpopular than Trump.

I think the Trump factor may very well make them turn out for her tbh.

She might not be an Obama, but she's running against the biggest political mess the world has possibly seen in a very long time. That has to count for something for her.

[Raster]

Yeah Trump is the main force driving Hillary's turnout numbers as well as her campaign tbh.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

2012 is the anomaly. I don't think anyone could have predicted how well Obama's voter turnout would work. 2000 and 2004 the polls were extremely close because both elections were close. Hillary is not going to turn out voters like Obama did. Today's CNN poll has her more unpopular than Trump.

And why wouldn't she? Not only has she proven to know how to turn out voters already (see 2008 when she actually beat Obama in the popular vote count or 2016 where she destroyed the popular Bernie Sanders) but she actually has many GOTV functions on the ground, something Trump has yet to invest in. Add in the fact Obama will start personally campaigning for her (Sanders too) and there is no logical way to say with certainty that Hillary will not turn out voters like O

[Benzene]

Originally posted by midnightdawn

2012 is the anomaly. I don't think anyone could have predicted how well Obama's voter turnout would work. 2000 and 2004 the polls were extremely close because both elections were close. Hillary is not going to turn out voters like Obama did. Today's CNN poll has her more unpopular than Trump.

2012 was the anomaly because you said so? 2008 was the anomaly, and even THEN the media tried to pretend it was close.

And Hillary doesn't have to be Obama, these close polls are probably her best turnout tool. She's losing more to 3rd parties than Trump, and if the polls are close those voters will be more likely to vote for her.

It's funny though that after a month of screaming RIGGED that Trumpkins suddenly believe the polls again.

[King Maxx]

Hillary will get a high turnout just to stop Trump. This will be a record election for the 21st century. Bookmark me. Get ready for that 300-400 electoral win. Obama won in '08 by what 8-9 points??? I can def see her getting to 10+ for a modern day version of "landslide".

Hillary will win AAs, Hispanics, Catholic and college educated whites. He has no path to win if Romney won the demographics of all white people last time.

[Wonderland]

Originally posted by RatedG²

And why wouldn't she? Not only has she proven to know how to turn out voters already (see 2008 when she actually beat Obama in the popular vote count or 2016 where she destroyed the popular Bernie Sanders) but she actually has many GOTV functions on the ground, something Trump has yet to invest in. Add in the fact Obama will start personally campaigning for her (Sanders too) and there is no logical way to say with certainty that Hillary will not turn out voters like O

Rated with the TEA as usual

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Concrete

Welp. The media has their horserace. Hillary's down 2 in CNN's new poll. Maybe they can stop pushing the faux outrage over the Clinton Foundation now and star focusing on Trump's actual pay to play with Bondi

And no, Clinton's September schedule is still not up to snuff. For her sake and frankly, the sake of the world, she cannot afford to be complacent. She needs to campaign her heart out.

She has 9 days of no public event after September 8th. Unacceptable

For the love of God, campaign events aren't scheduled weeks in advanced.

Her schedule for next week will be released by the weekend. I feel like I've said this too many times in here.

[Benzene]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Hillary will get a high turnout just to stop Trump. This will be a record election for the 21st century. Bookmark me. Get ready for that 300-400 electoral win. Obama won in '08 by what 8-9 points??? I can def see her getting to 10+ for a modern day version of "landslide".

Hillary will win AAs, Hispanics, Catholic and college educated whites. He has no path to win if Romney won the demographics of all white people last time.

10+ won't happen, too polarized. But I expect +5.