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Originally posted by TaggedGalaxy
Does the Pokemkn have to be holding an item for the Z moves? If so that will make them completely useless competitively. Who will waste a battle item on a move you can only use once?
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Eh, we don't know how powerful they are yet: look at the Snorlax one, it completely wiped out gumshoos at 100%, presumably neutral STAB

imagine they're like 250 BP or something... giving a normal one to sylveon for example, and having it completely obliterate any switch in sans heatran with a 325 BP (before stab) move

Also, maybe they have great secondary effects, we just really don't know at this point. And even if they're just ok, unburden and acrobatics are a thing in certain tiers
