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Discussion: As whites, do you feel you need to speak up on BLM?
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And why does the thread title say "As whites,"
Why not "As whites, Asian, and etc.?"
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Gary
And why does the thread title say "As whites,"
Why not "As whites, Asian, and etc.?"
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Because whites are the only ones who can be racist duh
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
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Yes they should. They have NOTHING to lose and it's kind of their responsibility to do so after everything the blacks have been through
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now this is the mentality i can't agree with 
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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I can the answer the question for them, no, they don't care about any of our issues and will do any and everything to silence our movement.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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I support the fight against racism, but I don't support the mess that BLM has become.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I support the equal treatment of everyone. The majority of BLM activists on twitter just call people "coons" and "crackers" and on and on, which is not something I stand for. If everyone could treat each other as equals, that would be great.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Police brutality especially against unarmed African Americans is wrong. There is no debating that whatsoever. What makes me more worried is that I feel like it's getting much worse.
I personally feel that me speaking out about police brutality/BLM is pointless because BLM do not care nor value my opinion on the subject at all. AT ALL.
In order to get white people to get on board with the BLM and fight against police brutality we start by educating and uniting with one another. NOT by slandering, harassing, assaulting, attacking, ambushing, or hatred.
Education.
Get it?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Buddy
I agree with supporting it because I think there is a reason why black people feel disenfranchised from society and often don't feel safe in America. I want to help change that because it should never be that way, but the movement needs a major renovation. The movement simply doesn't have a focus that leads to actual change. It has been using emotions instead of logic, which needs to stop! They have made no progress what so ever. In fact, they have probably set things back a decade or two.
...But there is still a chance things can turn around. So I support what the movement could be, and will support it to move towards progress. But it needs to get its **** together fast.
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The ignorance at thinking black people could "set things back a decade or two." smh.... The truth is their is no real difference between today and twenty years ago
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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 @ people in here suggesting ice cream cones are a valid consolation for a dead father/uncle/brother/cousin. 
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Gary
And why does the thread title say "As whites,"
Why not "As whites, Asian, and etc.?"
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Asians and other minorities are in just as bad a position as blacks (in some cases worse, Asians for example, get silenced and erased out of pretty much every race-related conversation in America). The white community are the ones largely responsible for perpetuating the racist cycle that we are stuck in right now, so it's more interesting to know what actual white people think about black lives.
In short: it is harmful when a white person doesn't care about black lives because they have the societal power to act on that. Asians and other minorities don't really possess that kind of societal power beyond being "just another person that hates black people".
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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I do. It is that simple cause I have zero tolerance for racists. Outside of this place, I don't have much reason to discuss BLM in particular since I am not in the US (or the UK) and am hardly using social media, but I get easily triggered when I spot racist behaviour. On a rare occasion in real life, I have even beaten up ppl for that which brought me into little trouble years ago.
But speaking of BLM, I fully support them. Things need to change cause I feel that many whites aren't even listening anymore.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
I can the answer the question for them, no, they don't care about any of our issues and will do any and everything to silence our movement.
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You can't fight racism with prejudice. There are white people who actively support.
Your statement sounds quite paranoid tbh.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
 @ people in here suggesting ice cream cones are a valid consolation for a dead father/uncle/brother/cousin. 
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No one said that  it's just a nice gesture to show that some cops are actually here to do good, and shine the light on them, instead of the ***holes murdering innocent people.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Ryann
Don't act brand new. There are truckloads of people on the internet, particularly on this forum, who claim black people cannot be racist at all.
Regardless of that, although you do make a good point, it's doing too much and going further than what is trying to be said. Just because white people are privileged and have more power in the world does not mean black people can't be racist nor does it make it okay to be racist.
You cannot hate all white people because of the actions of a select few. Someone who had that attitude went to a church and killed a dozen black people. It's not right and never will be right.
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I think you're looking at the word racist and not seeing what they mean by racist.
Sure, a black person can discriminate and have prejudice against a white person. No one has to my knowledge said that it's impossible for that to happen.
But racism is not just a word that describes that, and if it is, then it's being used in a way that goes beyond that. Racism as a term when someone says "black people can't be racist against whites" means that the systemic and social discrimination of the white race is impossible based on how things currently are. So no matter how much one or many black people look down upon a white person, the white person suffers very little. They still ar more, are more accepted, beauty standards favour them, they have undeniable privilege and are quicker to be forgiven for their mistakes, the list really goes on and on.
To sum it up, yes a black person can be racist against a white person. But it is not an example of racism as that white person loses absolutely non of his/her equality.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Tinashebanks
The ignorance at thinking black people could "set things back a decade or two." smh.... The truth is their is no real difference between today and twenty years ago
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lol yes, as if it's the black people who are now totally responsible for where white people set them hundreds of years ago.
If they set things back a decade or two ago, then if you're a white person, wouldn't you want to help bring them back up?
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I feel the need to stand up for and defend Blacks, but not to defend and use that dumbass SJW-like hashtag 
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
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No one made BlackLivesMatter a "mess" but scared white people who find it socially scary to have a black person be aggressive or vocal about issues that don't follow their mindset.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by swissman
I think you're looking at the word racist and not seeing what they mean by racist.
Sure, a black person can discriminate and have prejudice against a white person. No one has to my knowledge said that it's impossible for that to happen.
But racism is not just a word that describes that, and if it is, then it's being used in a way that goes beyond that. Racism as a term when someone says "black people can't be racist against whites" means that the systemic and social discrimination of the white race is impossible based on how things currently are. So no matter how much one or many black people look down upon a white person, the white person suffers very little. They still ar more, are more accepted, beauty standards favour them, they have undeniable privilege and are quicker to be forgiven for their mistakes, the list really goes on and on.
To sum it up, yes a black person can be racist against a white person. But it is not an example of racism as that white person loses absolutely non of his/her equality.
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Again, no - this is people re-writing the definition of racism to suit their agenda and imply that black people cannot be racist. I don't believe you specifically think that but they always mention systemic and social discrimination which yes, it cannot happen to white people, but we aren't just discussing that specific form of racism, we are talking about racism in general.
That's the point I'm making. Can black people be racist? Yes.
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Originally posted by Racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
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If a white person thinks black people are ugly monkeys, that's racist. If a black person thinks white people are ugly crackers, that's racist.
However, because of the systemic and social discrimination, people will have more of a problem with the first example because black people are significantly more disadvantaged than whites. That's where it gets mixed up and confused, in my opinion.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Ryann
Again, no - this is people re-writing the definition of racism to suit their agenda and imply that black people cannot be racist. I don't believe you specifically think that but they always mention systemic and social discrimination which yes, it cannot happen to white people, but we aren't just discussing that specific form of racism, we are talking about racism in general.
That's the point I'm making. Can black people be racist? Yes.
If a white person thinks black people are ugly monkeys, that's racist. If a black person thinks white people are ugly crackers, that's racist.
However, because of the systemic and social discrimination, people will have more of a problem with the first example because black people are significantly more disadvantaged than whites. That's where it gets mixed up and confused, in my opinion.
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It's not rewriting the definition - it's THE definition used on sociology-based discussions about power structures. Just because you are uneducated on it doesn't mean it's not a respected, commonly used academic definition. 
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