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Discussion: Is Janet's success overrated?
Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
everybody loves LaToya.. what does the queen of reality tv have to do with this thread?
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Look her wiki 
She have great songs but all are flops.
It's too rude for her talent
Janet is more clever
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
She would never have even had one hit if she wasn't MJ's sister. That's just a fact. The disrespect to the king in here  |
See, **** like this is very ignorant. Michael and Janet share the same blood. They are brother and sister. But Michael had no bearing on Janet becoming the legend she is today. Janet was an ACTRESS first before she became a POP LEGEND. Once "Control" was released and there on, she was seen on his level as a performer and musician. And he begged her to be on the "Scream" track. Michael didn't help Janet achieve her multiplatinum hit albums, singles, videos, etc. It was all Janet. And if you're going by that ******** logic, then all of his siblings would have been successful(as solo artists).
And judging by who's in your sig, you're the last person to say anything.
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Member Since: 4/29/2011
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Originally posted by KingKunta
And Michael originated the military dance with Captain EO and Janet copied it for Rhythm Nation.
Michael had been sporting the military style since Thriller, most famously with the blue and red jackets at the grammys and AMA's.
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None of this is true.
And chart wise, Janet was a bigger force than him.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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yes very, like, who cares about how many consecutive top 20 singles she has? they're all forgotten in the US and unknown outside of it. btw, it was like 3 decades ago. it's not relevant, it's hardly a huge/significant accomplishment.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
The Super Bowl, she made a lot of mediocre music from 2001-2009, Michael's fall from grace kinda smudged the Jackson brand as a whole imo.
Also this is a myth, Control is at 14,000,000 worldwide with only 5x Platinum certifications from the US. Rhythm Nation at 20,000,000 worldwide with only 6x Platinum certifications from the US. Same numbers for janet. and The Velvet Rope did decently outside the US too.
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The inflation  Rythm nation did not sell 20 million
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Member Since: 4/29/2011
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Originally posted by skyandground
Britney and Celine sold more albums than her globally  |
Celine, yes. Britney, no. And Janet bested both of them on Billboard's Anniversary chart. All inclusive, Janet's stats are more impressive than Celine and Britney's.
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Member Since: 3/12/2011
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
yes very, like, who cares about how many consecutive top 20 singles she has? they're all forgotten in the US and unknown outside of it. btw, it was like 3 decades ago. it's not relevant, it's hardly a huge/significant accomplishment.
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and if it wasnt for her Britney, Beyonce would not have their careers
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by dcode78
See, **** like this is very ignorant. Michael and Janet share the same blood. They are brother and sister. But Michael had no bearing on Janet becoming the legend she is today. Janet was an ACTRESS first before she became a POP LEGEND. Once "Control" was released and there on, she was seen on his level as a performer and musician. And he begged her to be on the "Scream" track. Michael didn't help Janet achieve her multiplatinum hit albums, singles, videos, etc. It was all Janet. And if you're going by that ******** logic, then all of his siblings would have been successful(as solo artists).
And judging by who's in your sig, you're the last person to say anything.
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Never has, never will.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Josh
and if it wasnt for her Britney, Beyonce would not have their careers
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lies and fairy tales you read on here.
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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I think she's highly underrated, especially WW.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Josh
and if it wasnt for her Britney, Beyonce would not have their careers
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that's cute but this is about her success not her impact. the students surpassed the teacher it seems.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
Don't forget Madonna 
Unfortunately this! I didn't know about Janet before ATRL, and I am getting into her discography. It's really unfortunate that her legacy didn't pass the test of time because she is such a talented artist  |
Madonna only has 17 and Janet's streak stared just as Madonnas ended so....
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Member Since: 4/12/2011
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Yes, very overrated.
Pretty sure she doesn't have any impact outside the US and doesn't have a single classic or recognizable song.
Most people here have never even heard of her (me included, before joining atrl) so yea.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
yes very, like, who cares about how many consecutive top 20 singles she has? they're all forgotten in the US and unknown outside of it. btw, it was like 3 decades ago. it's not relevant, it's hardly a huge/significant accomplishment.
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It is significant considering none of her contemporaries were able to do it. And you all say this and that isn't significant, yet brag about Vevo certified videos and Spotify streams as if that matters. Bye.
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Originally posted by OffTheWall
The inflation Rythm nation did not sell 20 million |
As if every Michael album isn't inflated to the gods. Let's not.
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Originally posted by Josh
and if it wasnt for her Britney, Beyonce would not have their careers
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No, but she did pave the way for them. You can just look at their work and see that. Especially with Britney.
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Never has, never will.
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Kiii.. The "Scream" video can attest to that.
Yall can throw Michael in the mix all you want, but Janet's accomplishments, impact, and influence will never go away. Nothing ATRL or anyone can do about it.
She's your faves fave. Your fave will bow down like they are suppose to in her presence.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
yes very, like, who cares about how many consecutive top 20 singles she has? they're all forgotten in the US and unknown outside of it. btw, it was like 3 decades ago. it's not relevant, it's hardly a huge/significant accomplishment.
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So everyone has close to 20 consecutive top 10's just laying around? You sound silly.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
None of this is true.
And chart wise, Janet was a bigger force than him.
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http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=4425
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In an interview with Michael Jackson, he said that Janet called to ask if she could use the military-style dance she saw in Michael's short film Captain EO in her video for this song. Michael refused at first since he wanted to do a video with all the dances in military style, but he eventually let Janet use it.
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http://themilitaryjacket.com/wp-cont...-Jackets-2.jpg
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
Celine, yes. Britney, no. And Janet bested both of them on Billboard's Anniversary chart. All inclusive, Janet's stats are more impressive than Celine and Britney's.
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Actually Britney has outsold her by almost 10 million, isn't Janet's album sales around 70 million while Britney has passed the 80 million mark?
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Member Since: 3/12/2011
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
lies and fairy tales you read on here. |
Britney claims Madonna is her influence yet I don't see anything Madonna related in Britney's discography only thing they have in common is their love for bleach blonde hair that ages them badly and the LGBT community
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Schhh
Yes, very overrated.
Pretty sure she doesn't have any impact outside the US and doesn't have a single classic or recognizable song.
Most people here have never even heard of her (me included, before joining atrl) so yea.
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This is actually very true. Here in the UK, if you ask someone to name a Janet Jackson song, 9 out of 10 people won't be able to. Those that do will probably name Rhythm Nation, probably her most recognisable song internationally if there is one.
I, personally, know a lot of JJ songs, because I'm actually a fan believe it or not.
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