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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
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Originally posted by Radiance
Have they said anything about the similarities/plagiarism at all?
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I don't think so.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Radiance
Have they said anything about the similarities/plagiarism at all?
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Not once
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by hellocory
Fox News still talking about Benghazi  |
Im not totally for Clinton, but after eight investigation that have resulted the same conclusion they should gave it a rest already, when will they start talking that Bush was wrong on going to war with Iraq.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The Benghazi mom directly blaming Hillary and not the party that voted to cut security funding
Not to be insensitive but as Hillary said, what difference did it make whether it was caused by a video or an attack at that point?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by 1DES
Im not totally for Clinton, but after eight investigation that have resulted the same conclusion they should gave it a rest already, when will they start talking that Bush was wrong on going to war with Iraq.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_W...il_controversy
Or this. 👀
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Did any of y'all see the finalized GOP platform? It's a complete mess. Literally everything they said was going to be in there is in there, including the "protection" of marriage
https://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amaz...3&rid=13483726
SCREAMING at the part that says that children should only ever be raised in a one-mom-one-dad household. So I guess if a mother has to choose between dying and having a baby or living and aborting it she would have to choose to abort the baby, because then it would be cruel to force the baby into a one-parent household 
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
Still perplexed as to why Donald wore a blue tie
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Color doesn't matter to him. Never did.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Update: FOX News talking about cops
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Color doesn't matter to him. Never did.
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He loves his blacks
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Was with my sister so I missed the circus, but all of you kept me updated and the mess, the plagiarism people leaving early
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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This utter freakshow of a convention....what a disaster so far. 
I wish John Kasich would run as an independent...give me someone to vote for that is serious, professional and has some integrity. 
...though...Kasich knows that if Hillary wins, he will be the GOP's "standard bearer" come 2020...and will have a good chance to beat Hillary.
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Kasich is a fraud. Take it from someone who lives in Ohio.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by hellocory
Kasich is a fraud. Take it from someone who lives in Ohio.
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Context? Ohio has a strong economy compared to it's neighboring states...
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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No one is beating Hillary in 2020 because she's going to have an amazing 1st term.  I love him, but it's probably going to exceed both of Obama's two terms.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
No one is beating Hillary in 2020 because she's going to have an amazing 1st term. I love him, but it's probably going to exceed both of Obama's two terms.
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Care to make a bet? History would not be on her side...
Truman barely defeated Dewey...after one term
Johnson lost party support, declined to run
Ford lost his reelection
Bush lost his reelection
The equation is ruling party fatigue will be high by 2020 if Hillary happens to win in 2016...and she probably wouldn't win this year, if Trump hadn't come along...and she isn't beating Trump by as much as she should be.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Care to make a bet? History would not be on her side...
Truman barely defeated Dewey...after one term
Johnson lost party support, declined to run
Ford lost his reelection
Bush lost his reelection
The equation is ruling party fatigue will be high by 2020 if Hillary happens to win in 2016...and she probably wouldn't win this year, if Trump hadn't come along...and she isn't beating Trump by as much as she should be.
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Yes I wanna bet. Why? Because comprehensive immigration reform will secure the Hispanic vote. It's already almost impossible for the GOP to win with the current electoral map so securing Nevada, Florida, and Colorado will almost guarantee the death of the GOP for a generation --- remember SCOTUS is far more important.
The only thing that could ruin Hillary or Dems going forward is if wages and jobs creation doesn't rise. I think Hillary knows how to fix it. Her infrastructure, technology, and climate change proposal will create millions of jobs, and will ease the pain with the rust belt states a bit.
And unlike Hillary, who will raise the minimum wage and secure equal pay which will instantly rise incomes, the GOP continues to deny it, and it's not going to be an argument come 2020. Until they change their platform, they'll continue to see the same results.
FDR and Harry Truman had the White House for 20 years, which is exactly how I see this one playing out.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Yes I wanna bet. Why? Because comprehensive immigration reform will secure the Hispanic vote. It's already almost impossible for the GOP to win with the current electoral map so securing Nevada, Florida, and Colorado will almost guarantee the death of the GOP for a generation --- remember SCOTUS is far more important.
The only thing that could ruin Hillary or Dems going forward is if wages and jobs creation doesn't rise. I think Hillary knows how to fix it. Her infrastructure, technology, and climate change proposal will create millions of jobs, and will ease the pain with the rust belt states a bit.
And unlike Hillary, who will raise the minimum wage and secure equal pay which will instantly rise incomes, the GOP continues to deny it, and it's not going to be an argument come 2020. Until they change their platform, they'll continue to see the same results.
FDR and Harry Truman had the White House for 20 years, which is exactly how I see this one playing out.
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 at climate change creating jobs and easing the pain of the rust belt states!
So Hillary gonna shut all the coal mines down, and give all the miners jobs as algae farmers? Please! 
Raising the minimum wage will only force places like Wal-Mart to raise their prices cause they as a company have to pass the extra cost to the consumer, who is also their employees. Raising the minimum wage is a hollow policy...it sounds good, but really doesn't do anything to solve the problem.
Kasich is moderate enough to take on Clinton, and my hope is that the GOP base see's the light after Trump and this election cycle going into 2020. Social Conservatives are killing the GOP... they need to learn that most of America doesn't think that way these days.
...remember Truman wasn't elected his first term, he almost lost his election to what should of been an easy candidate to defeat in Dewey. In the next election cycle Truman didn't have enough party support, so he declined to run in 1952, giving rise to an 8 year Republican administration. Point being no matter how good a term Hillary has, history says the voting public will vote for change for the sake of change once a party has been in control for a while.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
at climate change creating jobs and easing the pain of the rust belt states!
So Hillary gonna shut all the coal mines down, and give all the miners jobs as algae farmers? Please!
Raising the minimum wage will only force places like Wal-Mart to raise their prices cause they as a company have to pass the extra cost to the consumer, who is also their employees. Raising the minimum wage is a hollow policy...it sounds good, but really doesn't do anything to solve the problem.
Kasich is moderate enough to take on Clinton, and my hope is that the GOP base see's the light after Trump and this election cycle going into 2020. Social Conservatives are killing the GOP... they need to learn that most of America doesn't think that way these days.
...remember Truman wasn't elected his first term, he almost lost his election to what should of been an easy candidate to defeat in Dewey. In the next election cycle Truman didn't have enough party support, so he declined to run in 1952, giving rise to an 8 year Republican administration. Point being no matter how good a term Hillary has, history says the voting public will vote for change for the sake of change once a party has been in control for a while. |
We tried your trickle-down economic policies under Reagan, Bush and W. All failed.
We've seen the success of Clinton and Obama's Keynesian economic policies. History is on our side.
Take a look at the economies of different states. California vs. Kansas.
And you're kidding yourself if you think Kasich is 'moderate'. Just take a look at how socially conservative he is. His record in Ohio speaks for itself.
If the GOP wants to turn back to the centre and become more socially acceptable, consider Charlie Baker, Jon Huntsman, Larry Hogan.
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Member Since: 10/17/2009
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
This utter freakshow of a convention....what a disaster so far.
I wish John Kasich would run as an independent...give me someone to vote for that is serious, professional and has some integrity.
...though...Kasich knows that if Hillary wins, he will be the GOP's "standard bearer" come 2020...and will have a good chance to beat Hillary. |
Kasich has no integrity, he tries to portray himself as being better than the rest of them, but he's a religious zealot like the rest of them who is more concerned with governing from the bible than the constitution, more concerned with imposing his "values" on his constituents than improving people's lives. And I guarantee that in 4 years, he won't be the republican nominee, Rubio will, if he wins his reelection race, at least. If he doesn't, then he won't be. If it's not him, it'll be someone like Nikki Haley or something. Scratch that, republicans are still too sexist to have a woman nominee anytime soon. I predict that the deplorable Scott Walker will run again, maybe it will be him.
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Member Since: 10/17/2009
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Yes I wanna bet. Why? Because comprehensive immigration reform will secure the Hispanic vote. It's already almost impossible for the GOP to win with the current electoral map so securing Nevada, Florida, and Colorado will almost guarantee the death of the GOP for a generation --- remember SCOTUS is far more important.
The only thing that could ruin Hillary or Dems going forward is if wages and jobs creation doesn't rise. I think Hillary knows how to fix it. Her infrastructure, technology, and climate change proposal will create millions of jobs, and will ease the pain with the rust belt states a bit.
And unlike Hillary, who will raise the minimum wage and secure equal pay which will instantly rise incomes, the GOP continues to deny it, and it's not going to be an argument come 2020. Until they change their platform, they'll continue to see the same results.
FDR and Harry Truman had the White House for 20 years, which is exactly how I see this one playing out.
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Originally posted by Radiance
We tried your trickle-down economic policies under Reagan, Bush and W. All failed.
We've seen the success of Clinton and Obama's Keynesian economic policies. History is on our side.
Take a look at the economies of different states. California vs. Kansas.
And you're kidding yourself if you think Kasich is 'moderate'. Just take a look at how socially conservative he is. His record in Ohio speaks for itself.
If the GOP wants to turn back to the centre and become more socially acceptable, consider Charlie Baker, Jon Huntsman, Larry Hogan.
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Speaking the truth!
And yeah, if Hillary passes immigration reform, she's not going anywhere in 2020, and the democrats just might be in the White House for 20 years straight.
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