[Retro]

Originally posted by freebitch26

ok think about this fo a second, where do fish live? In water and do we have the natural weapons and abilities to catch fish with our bare hands and eat them right on the apot without any processing? No. We can't be underwater for too long and don't have claws to grip fish without getting hurt by their pointy scales, not to mention to us humans they smell awful and we would get sick if we ate fish without cooking it first. Seafood specifically maks no sense for humans to eat since the ocean is completely inhospitable for us.

This would be why we have thumbs and the intellectual capacity to make and use simple tools.

[-brian]

Originally posted by katykater

Yes, if you mean once a week.

No, if you mean meat every day. That's an American invention with intensive (chicken) farming. Chicken used to have delicacy status in Europe, like you don't eat turkey every day. However the Americans made chicken meat very cheap, flooded Europe with it and it lead to the Chicken War.

Combined with Dutch help of delivering the iconic black and white Frisian cows for milk and the iconic pink Dutch pig being the most efficient meat producer of the pigs. Kids all over the world draw cows and pigs looking like the Dutch ones.

thank you for educating me a little today

[Pharaoh]

Originally posted by Jet

Gorillas fight with their hands

Eh. Gorillas fight with everything given to them. They use both their muscles and teeth to fight off strangers. Silverbacks often show their big fangs to impress and scare away other males.

[skankle]

Originally posted by freebitch26

for about 200k years conpared to the millions of years of our early ancestors not eating meat, do you really think our bodies evolved to eat in such small amout of time? And eating something doesn't determine what type of eater you are. You can eat skittles, Twinkies, ice cream, cheese, chips, pizza etc.. and not die but does that mean we are naturally meant to eat those foods? No!.

Where does the 200k years come from? Everywhere I've found gives ~2.5 million years:

http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w...erview1c.shtml
http://www.rense.com/general20/meant.htm

And there's this which suggests human ancestors were eating meat sorta regularly 1.5 million years ago:

http://www.livescience.com/23671-eat...-us-human.html

The only place I get the 200,000 figure is that the earliest homo sapien is roughly 200,000 years old.

[Nano]

Originally posted by Retro

This would be why we have thumbs and the intellectual capacity to make and use simple tools.

These are the reasons why global warming is currently a huge problem.

[antoine_]

Yes,we need it, as much as we need vegetable, rice, bread, fish and fruits.

[freebitch26]

Jimi

Originally posted by Retro

Yep. And it's arguably ethically acceptable as well, with the treatment of livestock being far more ethically objectionable than the consumption of said livestock.

Oh, and let's not forget that we wouldn't be here having this discussion if it weren't for humans being able to cook and eat meat because our brains would be the size of a fist.

And then there's the part where despite recent claims that nearly all human ancestors were vegetarian until 200,000 years ago, there's been strong evidence since at least 1999 that we've been eating meat for more like 2.5 million years.

And also there's the part where meat is important because of its calorie count and easier protein access, so eating it in reasonable and healthy amounts doesn't actually damage the human body and actually provides health benefits.

Actually it's just a myth that eating meat gave us bigger brains. It doesn't take a large Brain to eat meat which is why carnivores have small brains compared to herbivores and the actual reason for our big brains is fruit! Because we need to memorize where certain trees are in order to go back and get more fruit later.

About us eating meat for 2 million years



And meat is completely inferior to fruit, the claim that we need a lot of protein ia false. Protein is not only harmful but also the body can't do anything with it, what the body needs is amino acids so if you eat meat you will be wasting energy in breaking down protein into amino acids in order to be used by the body.You can't live on meat alone but you can on fruit.

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by Retro

This would be why we have thumbs and the intellectual capacity to make and use simple tools.

y'all really just don't understand do you? Just because we humans have created this unnatural environment where everything is at the touch of our fingertips doesn't mean that is natural to us. Remember what this thread is about? Is eating meat NATURAL to humans not about how we have created tools and weapons to eat animals we wouldn't be able to in nature.

[Danny789]

Originally posted by freebitch26

y'all really just don't understand do you? Just because we humans have created this unnatural environment where everything is at the touch of our fingertips doesn't mean that is natural to us. Remember what this thread is about? Is eating meat NATURAL to humans not about how we have created tools and weapons to eat animals we wouldn't be able to in nature.

But other animals use tools also, Dolphins, birds, otters, and chimps all use tools to eat their
natural food source. Humans have gone above and beyond but tools are also natural and instinctual
To us.

[Yndda]

Originally posted by keshaspearsxo

Yes by nature but as is murder, rape, and an array of now socially unaccepted things so the "nature" argument is rather reductive

murder and rape is natural? I didn't know being a total sociopath/psychopath was normal!

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by skankle

Where does the 200k years come from? Everywhere I've found gives ~2.5 million years:

http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w...erview1c.shtml
http://www.rense.com/general20/meant.htm

And there's this which suggests human ancestors were eating meat sorta regularly 1.5 million years ago:

http://www.livescience.com/23671-eat...-us-human.html

The only place I get the 200,000 figure is that the earliest homo sapien is roughly 200,000 years old.

i think i was talking about cooking food

[KillingYourCareer]

for us humans yes

[Scandal & Media]

Humans are naturally omnivores.

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by antoine_

Yes,we need it, as much as we need vegetable, rice, bread, fish and fruits.

what other species on earth need all these different food groups to survive

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by Danny789

But other animals use tools also, Dolphins, birds, otters, and chimps all use tools to eat their
natural food source. Humans have gone above and beyond but tools are also natural and instinctual
To us.

tools definitely help us obtain food but i don't think it's in our natural instinct to make tools it's just a learned behavior passed down to generations. We should be able to eat our designed diet with what we naturally have.

[Tsuko]

Originally posted by freebitch26

y'all really just don't understand do you? Just because we humans have created this unnatural environment where everything is at the touch of our fingertips doesn't mean that is natural to us. Remember what this thread is about? Is eating meat NATURAL to humans not about how we have created tools and weapons to eat animals we wouldn't be able to in nature.

[Bad Things]

Yes. Curious to how people learned that they need to cook meat though.

[Danny789]

Originally posted by freebitch26

tools definitely help us obtain food but i don't think it's in our natural instinct to make tools it's just a learned behavior passed down to generations. We should be able to eat our designed diet with what we naturally have.

I can definitely kill and eat a chicken with my bare hands

[Tsuko]

Originally posted by freebitch26

what other species on earth need all these different food groups to survive

Humans can survive without eating meat, but it doesn't mean it's unnatural for humans to eat it.

Humans can survive without eating vegetables, but it doesn't mean it's unnatural for humans to eat it either.

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by Danny789

I can definitely kill and eat a chicken with my bare hands

ok! I'm not sure it would taste so good though.