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Discussion: Queer Black Lives Matter
Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
I don't just, I always wanted to have friends with different cultures and backgrounds growing up like they do in Hollywood high school movies. It's so boring to be with only white people here. Thanks to who ever is reading this long post and if you're a black person, tell me how should I react when I see a black person because I don't wanna look racist, I just get so happy but I can't just walk to them and start talking about stuff, especially if they're hanging around with other people   |
Don't get all weird is all I can say, talk to them like you would anyone else you never met before but wanna get to know. Avoid trying to put on a certain attitude that you aren't accustomed to, to come off "hip" or whatever. If you feel awkward talking to strangers then that's a whole other thing but if not it shouldn't be a problem. Introduction, small talk etc. If they wanna talk to you back that's up to them but at least you can say you tried to speak. 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Can we start thread banning people or what
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I only have one queer bllack friend but there are not many in my city to begin with. I support you guys as a queer hispanic. I'm always fighting white men and their stereotypes of me. Like today I was reading a book at the mall and a white man told me it was "good to see Hispanics reading books"
White gays always tell me I'm too fem and tell me to be more "cholo" 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA
Can we start thread banning people or what
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If you guys want this to just become a crying circle for PoC who can't get white men on grindr then sure.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Shizuka
Don't get all weird is all I can say, talk to them like you would anyone else you never met before but wanna get to know. Avoid trying to put on a certain attitude that you aren't accustomed to, to come off "hip" or whatever. If you feel awkward talking to strangers then that's a whole other thing but if not it shouldn't be a problem. Introduction, small talk etc. If they wanna talk to you back that's up to them but at least you can say you tried to speak. |
thank you for your help 
mess, I'm not gonna talk to them like I'm a white hood rapper 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Echelon
If you guys want this to just become a crying circle for PoC who can't get white men on grindr then sure.
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White men only pick out the most self loathing weak minded PoC they can mistreat, so I don't see why anyone would want to "get" one
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
I only have one queer bllack friend but there are not many in my city to begin with. I support you guys as a queer hispanic. I'm always fighting white men and their stereotypes of me. Like today I was reading a book at the mall and a white man told me it was "good to see Hispanics reading books"
White gays always tell me I'm too fem and tell me to be more "cholo" |
A whole mess and a half 
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Originally posted by Echelon
If you guys want this to just become a crying circle for PoC who can't get white men on grindr then sure.
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You can keep on believing that's all it is I guess. 
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
thank you for your help
mess, I'm not gonna talk to them like I'm a white hood rapper |
No problem, honestly sometimes you gotta remind people not to do that tbh even now sadly. Hope you make some new friends.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by freebitch26
the funny thing is that if a bunch of white gays interrupted a BLM event to talk about the rampant homophobia in the black community they would be labeled racist  |
Because the black community isn't theirs?
The LGBT community includes LGBT people of all races - it is just as much a black community as it is white.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Echelon
If you guys want this to just become a crying circle for PoC who can't get white men on grindr then sure.
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Originally posted by Echelon
If you guys want this to just become a crying circle for PoC who can't get white men on grindr then sure.
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If you have noticed, with your level of ignorance kid. Is that this whole discussion is about visibility, its terrible to be part of a community that claims its equal to all but then the next minute your invisible from magazines,to media, to even dating sites promo pictures, Worse is when your looked at based on a stereotype and not on who you are in terms of character and achievements of all, how about seeing equal coverage and pictures of loving POC gay relationships that are equally beautiful and loving. On your need to think its all about rejection from god knows what? you can go love what you want to like but don't never ever make a person of colour feel inadequate like they are inferior to a human being that equally goes to the toilet and ***** the same(whats no spice,no rice, no chocolate Is that what POC'S names are?), falls ill and gets old. If your more stuck on hooking up on grindr and think that's what this thread is about. Then kid you need to get your priorities right.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Among gay men, black men are arguably treated the worst, and in general, black trans* individuals are virtually invisible. I don't know why white queers are getting upset with black queers for wanting to feel more comfortable in queer spaces. I can't imagine what it feels like to be black and queer, but I stand behind anyone speaking on the issues (not that my support is even needed).
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by lolzjustinwat
Among gay men, black men are arguably treated the worst, and in general, black trans* individuals are virtually invisible. I don't know why white queers are getting upset with black queers for wanting to feel more comfortable in queer spaces. I can't imagine what it feels like to be black and queer, but I stand behind anyone speaking on the issues (not that my support is even needed).
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Aren't Asian gay men treated the worse as they're seen as undesirable across all races in the gay community?
I mean at least the black gay community have themselves. At that's something, but Asian men have it really bad in both gay and straight worlds.
Regardless, the issues black gay men face is two fold. As they have it hard in the mainstream black community, as homophobia is pretty bad.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Echelon
If you guys want this to just become a crying circle for PoC who can't get white men on grindr then sure.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Tropez
Aren't Asian gay men treated the worse as they're seen as undesirable across all races in the gay community?
I mean at least the black gay community have themselves. At that's something, but Asian men have it really bad in both gay and straight worlds.
Regardless, the issues black gay men face is two fold. As they have it hard in the mainstream black community, as homophobia is pretty bad.
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idk but as far as straight people go, asian women and white men are the most desired, black women and black men are the least desired.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by Tropez
Aren't Asian gay men treated the worse as they're seen as undesirable across all races in the gay community?
I mean at least the black gay community have themselves. At that's something, but Asian men have it really bad in both gay and straight worlds.
Regardless, the issues black gay men face is two fold. As they have it hard in the mainstream black community, as homophobia is pretty bad.
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Yes and no; they are about equal. I did a project on dating patterns of male homosexuals in college, and the general consensus is that Asian men and black men are the most discriminated against but for different reasons. Both ethnicities are fetishized, with black men being viewed as/assumed to be dominant (almost aggressive) tops with larger genitalia, and Asian men are viewed as/assumed to be submissive bottoms. I believe Asian men were viewed as being more dateable, but it's been a few years since I did my research, so don't hold me to that.
Long-story short: they are both treated horribly, which is why I said "arguably." Someone might consider certain stereotypes worse than others, but both are incredibly ******. But as a white gay man, I honestly couldn't say either way as I have never and will never experience racism.
Edit: I also want to apologize if I am being too vocal. I don't want to take away from the actual opinions and voices of POC. Sorry!
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Shizuka
And what is a "REAL goal" in your eyes? What makes something valid and worthy of acknowledging when it comes to fighting something to you?
You already came in here to post "AllLivesMatter" and from the tone of this post you seem ready to dismiss anything that sounds remotely social justice worthy as "tumblr" gibberish.
If it isn't clear what someone would want when the general discussion is calling out exclusive behaviors in a community they have a part and say in then idk what to tell you.
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a goal is something REAL that can actually change. Explain to me exactly how this goal will be achieved? through education? outreach? what exactly? I'm not joking. These long essays on a random forum are cute but calling out behaviors is easy, what exactly is going to lead to actual change? can you answer that? 
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Tropez
Aren't Asian gay men treated the worse as they're seen as undesirable across all races in the gay community?
I mean at least the black gay community have themselves. At that's something, but Asian men have it really bad in both gay and straight worlds.
Regardless, the issues black gay men face is two fold. As they have it hard in the mainstream black community, as homophobia is pretty bad.
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Asians equally deserve equality but he is right when he says GAY blacks have it rough on all races, it aint a lie. Melanin is an important factor to asians equally, so black is less attractive and they link with stereotypes equally.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Originally posted by Reza
a goal is something REAL that can actually change. Explain to me exactly how this goal will be achieved? through education? outreach? what exactly? I'm not joking. These long essays on a random forum are cute but calling out behaviors is easy, what exactly is going to lead to actual change? can you answer that? |
If anyone had the answers to fixing it, it would have been fixed. Goals =/= what can happen/what will happen. Things can't just change cause someone gets a plan out, people have to be willing to accept those changes and sometimes no matter what anyone does it doesn't happen the way it's intended. Calling people out is very important either way and dismissing it compared to "actual change" is simply just discouraging.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Shizuka
If anyone had the answers to fixing it, it would have been fixed. Goals =/= what can happen/what will happen. Things can't just change cause someone gets a plan out, people have to be willing to accept those changes and sometimes no matter what anyone does it doesn't happen the way it's intended. Calling people out is very important either way and dismissing it compared to "actual change" is simply just discouraging.
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And that is the core problem with the whole "lives matter" movement. People can call out others but without leaders or a plan the movement falls flat with no actual change in these areas. I guess talking about it is the first step.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Originally posted by Reza
And that is the core problem with the whole "lives matter" movement. People can call out others but without leaders or a plan the movement falls flat with no actual change in these areas. I guess talking about it is the first step. |
Huh...
BLM is not just one single entity, it's a group of minor organizations in a free form movement.
The problem is people continuously thinking it's some mass single thing that needs a leader to write up demands and rules as if that will ever solve the fact people are continuously dismissive of the issues that all of the minor movements bring up constantly.
If talking is already this offensive to people then anything stronger will really send folks over the edge.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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This idea that a leader is gonna somehow make people listen seems so strawman to me, people just don't wanna hear what is being said is all.
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