[Butters]

Originally posted by Suede

This has finally sunk in with me. I'm so sorry.

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[Kxvk]

I'm watching that 100 Days of UKIP drama from last year and omg it's scary how accurate it is to today.

They've predicted everything about what happened today more than a year ago.

[bluth]

Originally posted by geo

We all know here that if successive Labour and Conservative governments hadn't consistently abandoned the Midlands and the north of England the overall concern about immigration wouldn't be anywhere near as much. It's just that working class people have seen their living standards hit lows at the same time as increased mass immigration from Europe. People just put two and two together to make five, and immigrants have been a useful scapegoat for governments for quite some time.

their living standards have hit lows because of this conservative government and its reckless austerity measures which have aimed to do nothing other than widen the rich/poor divide and just make it that much more palatable for the public school twats in parliament to **** over the poor. the living standards have hit lows because of mistakes from the economically powerful working in inner city banks.

let me repeat: living standards have NOT hit lows because a polish family has decided to come over here and start contributing to society, getting a job while their british counterparts are sitting on plastic furniture in their front gardens downing cans of stella and singing rule ****ing britannia.

[Suede]

Originally posted by Butters

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As in I'm moving back to Sweden next month so the effects of Brexit on me are very temporal (e.g. the exchange rate since my savings are in the £). I'm sorry for my fellow Brits who have to endure this.

I made it sound like I voted for Leave

[J a y]

Originally posted by monsterLd

What irritating me is that the EXACT same people who tried to get the "not all muslims are terrorists" argument going on Twitter a few weeks back when the Orlando incident happened are the SAME who are not happy with the result and are grouping ALL leave-voters to be racists?!

I know it maybe far-fetched to compare both situations but you are still being just as judgemental and damn right stupid for not letting anyone have an opinion that is not the same as yours

Which exact people are you referring to?

17.4 million voted to Leave whilst 16.1 million to Remain. 13 million didn't vote. Population is 64 million of which 46 million were eligible. In areas with multiculturalism and diverse people (including the economic, financial and cultural capital of the world, London) there was clear indication of more votes to Remain whilst the middle of England, further from the major cities, largely not affected by immigration want to Leave, and some are as ruthless to ask the migrants living here to also.

Furthermore, it was the young voting in and the old voting out. We're the generation of people who are more accepting of differences and have contributed greatly to social activism to better our future, laws, society, etc.

What are we supposed to say to those statistics?

[Suede]

bluth

[geo]

Originally posted by bluth

their living standards have hit lows because of this conservative government and its reckless austerity measures which have aimed to do nothing other than widen the rich/poor divide and just make it that much more palatable for the public school twats in parliament to **** over the poor. the living standards have hit lows because of mistakes from the economically powerful working in inner city banks.

let me repeat: living standards have NOT hit lows because a polish family has decided to come over here and start contributing to society, getting a job while their british counterparts are sitting on plastic furniture in their front gardens downing cans of stella and singing rule ****ing britannia.

That's exactly my point though.

This Conservative government has been using immigrants as scapegoats for their own policies hurting the working class. That's why tensions are so high, and that's probably why Brexit won today.

[toanythingtaboo]

Originally posted by Butters

I think the working class wanted a scapegoat for the economy's state + direction of their country (which they see as bad) and they were pushed into blaming the EU and immigrants. They're disillusioned by the people on top, don't like the idea of being influenced/controlled by non-Brits and some misguidedly believe that GB could return to it's old glory (largest empire in the world) by something as drastic as this
It's sort of myopic to blame racism for the whole thing.

Just an opinion from a non-Brit so it doesnt mean much but that's what I've been feeling from what I've read online and to other people
feel free to correct me tho

This is what happened with the Scottish Referendum. The working class were frustrated and blamed England for it, forgetting/ignorant to how good Scotland actually had it in the UK (free education, prescriptions etc).

I agree that it's way too simplistic to blame Leave votes on racism/xenophobia. Purely, at least. It's crying out to be heard that they want change - but the gesture was a very dangerous one. Much like Scottish pro-Independence voters (at the time).

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by bluth

their living standards have hit lows because of this conservative government and its reckless austerity measures which have aimed to do nothing other than widen the rich/poor divide and just make it that much more palatable for the public school twats in parliament to **** over the poor. the living standards have hit lows because of mistakes from the economically powerful working in inner city banks.

let me repeat: living standards have NOT hit lows because a polish family has decided to come over here and start contributing to society, getting a job while their british counterparts are sitting on plastic furniture in their front gardens downing cans of stella and singing rule ****ing britannia.

This is why I want to marry you omg.

[bluth]

Originally posted by geo

That's exactly my point though.

This Conservative government has been using immigrants as scapegoats for their own policies hurting the working class. That's why tensions are so high, and that's probably why Brexit won today.

yeah sorry i only noticed the next part of your post afterwards. these baby boomers have really pissed me off today, apologies

[FatShady]

I hate when the r word is thrown around to win an argument. Let UK brexit ffs.
Immigrants affect lower class more than the educated middle class etc. Let them have a voice for once.

Really interested to see who's gonna be doing the jobs that the Polish were doing.

[geo]

One of the reasons why the polls underestimated Brexit was because there were people who hadn't voted since as far back as the Thatcher days who had now registered to vote Leave in protest against the government. They finally got their chance to make a huge statement, and they took it.

[Suede]

This is the GUTTER trash who voted to Leave.

[Lukey]

Originally posted by bluth

can't believe the ****ing idiots in this country with its disgusting colonialist history think that exiting this beneficial relationship is anywhere near an 'independence day'

You watch your mouth.

[Lukey]

Y'all better get on Twitter and hastag #KeepCorbyn if you haven't already.

Currently trending. We (Labour supporters) need him.

[geo]

Originally posted by SorryI'mLuke

Y'all better get on Twitter and hastag #KeepCorbyn if you haven't already.

Currently trending. We (Labour supporters) need him.

Boris needs him, more like.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by SorryI'mLuke

Y'all better get on Twitter and hastag #KeepCorbyn if you haven't already.

Currently trending. We (Labour supporters) need him.

#CorbynLove from America!

[Cas]

Originally posted by Kamren

This also exposes huge flaws within the British government as well, though. The US Constitution was structured in that the minority could be shielded and protected from the majority. Direct democracy never works.

It works amazingly in Switzerland.

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by Suede

This is the GUTTER trash who voted to Leave.

I was JUST watching BBC and they were interviewing a group of fat white women who voted Leave "It was about immigration, absolutely. I mean just look around!"

[skankle]

Originally posted by Suede

This is the GUTTER trash who voted to Leave.

The first guy literally saying he thinks EU migration is fine but not from the rest of the non-white world... and that's why he voted leave... like... wow....