Did anyone else play the Telltale GOT game? I'm so excited for season 2 now that we'll finally be able to outmaneuver our enemies without Ramsay coming in and erasing all of our progress. Starks, Tyrells & Forresters = Trinity
I remember some people were worried about the castings of Sam and Theon's families thinking they would be big like the Sand Snakes last season.
When the Tarlys have only had 1 episode, and Euron's tied for the most for a new S6 character with just 3 - or at least, IMDB says he's in the finale anyway.
Most prominent "guests" each season:
Waif (7 episodes)
Grey Worm (6 episodes)
Ser Gregor Clegane (5 episodes)
Eddison Tollett (5 episodes)
Podrick Payne (5 episodes)
Yara Greyjoy (5 episodes)
Olenna, Kevan, and Unella seem likely for 5 next week.
Seeing almost the entire internet blame Sansa for not telling idiot Jon about the Vale when he proved to be as dumb as his father and not crediting her for single handedly winning the North is so It's not betrayal if the person you hide information from is a complete idiot with a death wish.
Let me pray the rumors are true and Cersei acts extra crazy next week cause Sansa's on the verge of taking her spot as my fave.
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Winterfell is our home. It's ours and Arya's and Bran's and Rickon's. Wherever they are, it belongs to our family. We have to fight for it.
"You will watch as my soldiers take turns raping your sister. You will watch as my dogs devour your wild little brother. Then I will spoon your eyes from their sockets and let my dogs do the rest. Come and see. Ramsay Bolton, Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North."
The other things he did, ladies aren't supposed to talk about those things, but I imagine brothel keepers talk about them all the time. I can still feel it. I don't mean in my tender heart it still pains me so. I can still feel what he did in my body standing here right now.
No, but I do. Jon is every bit as much Ned Stark's son as Ramsay is Roose Bolton's. And there are also the Tullys. They're not Northern, but they will back us against the Boltons without question.
If Ramsay wins I’m not going back there alive. Do you understand me?
Your words will disappear. Your house will disappear. Your name will disappear. All memory of you will disappear.
*purposely waits until Ramsey starts speaking*
You're going to die tomorrow, Lord Bolton. Sleep well.
*rides off like a bad bitch*
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Did anyone else play the Telltale GOT game? I'm so excited for season 2 now that we'll finally be able to outmaneuver our enemies without Ramsay coming in and erasing all of our progress. Starks, Tyrells & Forresters = Trinity
Good point, I hadn't thought of that.
Ramsay was so stupid. He nearly ruined that game with all the sick **** he did so I'm glad we won't ever have to see his sick and moronic face ever again. Who did you choose btw?
I chose Asher.
Ramsay was so stupid. He nearly ruined that game with all the sick **** he did so I'm glad we won't ever have to see his sick and moronic face ever again. Who did you choose btw?
I chose Asher.
Ramsay was so stupid. He nearly ruined that game with all the sick **** he did so I'm glad we won't ever have to see his sick and moronic face ever again. Who did you choose btw?
I chose Asher.
Yeah, but most likely he'll still get a few scenes/episodes since I think Season 1 left off somewhere around season 4 of the TV show Hopefully by the time we pick it up he'll at least be in Winterfell and leaving us alone, if not a full time jump closer to/during S6.
Seeing almost the entire internet blame Sansa for not telling idiot Jon about the Vale when he proved to be as dumb as his father and not crediting her for single handedly winning the North is so It's not betrayal if the person you hide information from is a complete idiot with a death wish.
Yeah, I feel like the scene where we get a shot of her looking like a bad bitch (as per usual this season) as the knights of the vale raced past her, and Ramsay giving her that "oh ****" look makes it clear to anyone actually paying attention that Sansa was the real commander and impetus behind the Stark victory. Jon is a great warrior (even according to Ramsay), but Sansa will be the brains which help their house persevere... Poor sexists and basic bitches who can't accept character development.
I also feel like people have gotten so caught up in how visually amazing and gritty the battle scene was, and of course the joy in seeing Talent finally win, that they are forgetting that Jon LITERALLY fell for EVERY SINGLE trap Ramsay laid out for him... He fell for Rickon as a decoy breaking their pre-battle strategy of a patient/pincer attack approach (and to make it better, by advancing on Ramsay's army when he should have fell back into Formation after losing Rickon), and he fell for the wall of bodies/spears death trap as well. Without Sansa, Jon and the Wildings would have been slaughtered to the man, like the NERVE of people not appreciating her
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*purposely waits until Ramsey starts speaking*
You're going to die tomorrow, Lord Bolton. Sleep well.
*rides off like a bad bitch*
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The fact that she adjourned the meeting herself >>>
Yeah, but most likely he'll still get a few scenes/episodes since I think Season 1 left off somewhere around season 4 of the TV show Hopefully by the time we pick it up he'll at least be in Winterfell and leaving us alone, if not a full time jump closer to/during S6.
Yeah, I feel like the scene where we get a shot of her looking like a bad bitch (as per usual this season) as the knights of the vale raced past her, and Ramsay giving her that "oh ****" look makes it clear to anyone actually paying attention that Sansa was the real commander and impetus behind the Stark victory. Jon is a great warrior (even according to Ramsay), but Sansa will be the brains which help their house persevere... Poor sexists and basic bitches who can't accept character development.
I also feel like people have gotten so caught up in how visually amazing and gritty the battle scene was, and of course the joy in seeing Talent finally win, that they are forgetting that Jon LITERALLY fell for EVERY SINGLE trap Ramsay laid out for him... He fell for Rickon as a decoy breaking their pre-battle strategy of a patient/pincer attack approach (and to make it better, by advancing on Ramsay's army when he should have fell back into Formation after losing Rickon), and he fell for the wall of bodies/spears death trap as well. Without Sansa, Jon and the Wildings would have been slaughtered to the man, like the NERVE of people not appreciating her
TBH that was just bad writing, because Jon has fought major battles before.. and won. I think the writers wanted to make Sansa look "badass", but they could have done that without making Jon seem like an idiot.
Rickon is his little brother. The only reason he was fighting was to save his little brother. Jon doesn't have the Stark name, he was fighting for his siblings. So I understand him for riding out to save him, in fact, I would have thought less of his character if he hadn't. Ramsay and Sansa BOTH baited him into the battle by using Rickon. He's a sentimental character, so it's no surprise.
But yes, he should have fallen back. He had time to do that before the arrows reached him. Why didn't he? Why wasn't the giant armed? Why didn't he have traps installed for Ramsay? Why not attack at night? He was warned, so he knew many things could go wrong. I just don't see why he did so little preperation for this? It's the writers fault. I can't even attribute it to the character.
Also that brings me to Sansa's decision to keep the Vale army a secret from him. She was willing to sacrifice Rickon AND Jon to win at the end, that's why she didn't tell him. But if she had told him he could have drawn a proper plan of attack.
These are the numbers that matter for HBO, not the live viewings one.
So for this season to be the biggest one in the shows history so far is a great sign.
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U.S. viewership of the HBO fantasy hit have now surpassed 23 million viewers episode when all forms of viewing are counted (that’s originals, repeats, DVR and streaming).
Ratings have consistently risen with every season, a rare feat for a show of this popularity.
Ahhhhhhh
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I'm still....
I haven't recovered from the annihilation
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Look who he touched, and look who's dead.
"You'll be a soldier"
Robert his curse.
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I hope they don't kill Melisandre and Margaery Loras is dead tho
I was ready to DRAG this season to the pits of hell. 8 episodes of literally NOTHING, bad writing, cringy scenes, no action whatsoever. Then came Episode 9 and slayed my entire existence. BY FAR the best episode of the entire show. The Dany scene was EPIC. EPIC. EPIC. I got chills all over my bodies. They did an AMAZING job with the CGI. The dragons seemed so real. The entire scene was just MAGICAL. And then the Battle. WHEEWWW LORD my heart was beating so fast. One of the most intense scenes in TV history. Phenomenally shot. Incredible scenes. We have been awaiting a battle like this for so many years and they did NOT disappoint.
Now I get why the rest of the season was bad. They saved their entire budget for this episode
Rightfully taking the #1 spot on IMDB.
'Battle of the Bastards' from Game Of Thrones, 'Ozymandias' from Breaking Bad and 'What did we do' from How To Get Away With Murder are the trinity as the best episodes on TV.
TBH that was just bad writing, because Jon has fought major battles before.. and won. I think the writers wanted to make Sansa look "badass", but they could have done that without making Jon seem like an idiot.
Rickon is his little brother. The only reason he was fighting was to save his little brother. Jon doesn't have the Stark name, he was fighting for his siblings. So I understand him for riding out to save him, in fact, I would have thought less of his character if he hadn't. Ramsay and Sansa BOTH baited him into the battle by using Rickon. He's a sentimental character, so it's no surprise.
But yes, he should have fallen back. He had time to do that before the arrows reached him. Why didn't he? Why wasn't the giant armed? Why didn't he have traps installed for Ramsay? Why not attack at night? He was warned, so he knew many things could go wrong. I just don't see why he did so little preperation for this? It's the writers fault. I can't even attribute it to the character.
Also that brings me to Sansa's decision to keep the Vale army a secret from him. She was willing to sacrifice Rickon AND Jon to win at the end, that's why she didn't tell him. But if she had told him he could have drawn a proper plan of attack.
Eh, I think they did a good enough job of establishing that Jon is extremely honorable, one of the very few unambiguously "good" guys in the show, and cares about his family. That PLUS the fact that out of all the main characters, he is probably second only to Tormund in terms of lacking familiarity with the schemes, treachery and lack of honor we (and ESPECIALLY Sansa) have been witnessing for the last 6 years... That was reason enough for me, as a neutral observer, to buy him falling right into Ramsay's trap. I can even buy the surge of raw emotion fueling him to throw logic out the window when seeing his baby brother sadistically murdered in front of him, as he's the only Stark who never got to experience that firsthand (Whereas Arya and Sansa have, and have become significantly less scrupulous as a result). Tbh I would have found it awkward if he did all that racing to reach Rickon, just to go be like "welp! he's dead, lemme go right back into formation". The only two believable outcomes for me, with the characterization they established for Jon with this scene and all the seasons leading up to it, would be the charge that he made, or at best going over to Rickon's body to bring him back behind the front lines. Even if he had done that, Ramsay would have ordered his men to attack and/or shot him himself, and the outcome would have been the same. The only feasible way to avoid Ramsay's trap would have been to stay where he is and let Rickon run all the way to him, which you yourself aid wouldn't have worked.
Also, while Jon HAS won battles, most of his experiences have been with essentially barbarians ("what's a pincer attack?") and monsters (sans the Night King, except when he did show up Jon had to retreat). He's NEVER engaged in a battle against people south of the wall, and likely doesn't even know the main players of the game as of now. He's out of his element and will continue to be unless the plot accelerates to the "Walkers vs People" arc, which is obviously where the people south of the wall will turn to him.
Eh, I think they did a good enough job of establishing that Jon is extremely honorable, one of the very few unambiguously "good" guys in the show, and cares about his family. That PLUS the fact that out of all the main characters, he is probably second only to Tormund in terms of lacking familiarity with the schemes, treachery and lack of honor we (and ESPECIALLY Sansa) have been witnessing for the last 6 years... That was reason enough for me, as a neutral observer, to buy him falling right into Ramsay's trap. I can even buy the surge of raw emotion fueling him to throw logic out the window when seeing his baby brother sadistically murdered in front of him, as he's the only Stark who never got to experience that firsthand (Whereas Arya and Sansa have, and have become significantly less scrupulous as a result). Tbh I would have found it awkward if he did all that racing to reach Rickon, just to go be like "welp! he's dead, lemme go right back into formation". The only two believable outcomes for me, with the characterization they established for Jon with this scene and all the seasons leading up to it, would be the charge that he made, or at best going over to Rickon's body to bring him back behind the front lines. Even if he had done that, Ramsay would have ordered his men to attack and/or shot him himself, and the outcome would have been the same. The only feasible way to avoid Ramsay's trap would have been to stay where he is and let Rickon run all the way to him, which you yourself aid wouldn't have worked.
Also, while Jon HAS won battles, most of his experiences have been with essentially barbarians ("what's a pincer attack?") and monsters (sans the Night King, except when he did show up Jon had to retreat). He's NEVER engaged in a battle against people south of the wall, and likely doesn't even know the main players of the game as of now. He's out of his element and will continue to be unless the plot accelerates to the "Walkers vs People" arc, which is obviously where the people south of the wall will turn to him.
I don't agree.
I think the writing in episode was a little poor in that he didn't really prepare for a battle at all.
If two trenches were the only things he put in place, he's an idiot. What sense does it make to keep pushing his story if he doesn't evolve into a proper leader? They've been molding him into a leader for a few years now. He was lord commander for a reason.
He learned to infiltrate enemy camps in season 3, and he learned to think like a wildling, as he said. It's important to know your enemy. So why didn't he ask Sansa about Ramsay? Why did he go into that battle with like no information into Ramsay's character and behavior? Yeah, he doesn't know about people south of the wall, so it would make sense that he would seek counsel, but he didn't? He should have sat her down and asked, instead we got a shouting match. That's not realistic.
He could have lost because of sheer numbers + the cavalry. But he lost because he fell for several traps, one of which the giant could have easily ran through had he used him properly and maybe given him a weapon. Or actually, not even put him in the front the line. He could have used him as a trump card.
But drama I guess.
That's my criticism for the episode. I think it's amazing and it's my favorite, but the writing wasn't all that tbh.
It's not betrayal if the person you hide information from is a complete idiot with a death wish. 
It's also highly feasible, since Euron's men mostly declared their support for Yara before he showed up, so they'd mostly be like "aww, poor dat" and just go along with their second choice like they would have if he drowned during his coronation.
Dany is coming 
