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Poll: Is this the time LGBTQ will finally be respected as PERSONS?
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View Poll Results: Is it?
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Yes, all is full of love, is all around us
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No, hatred won
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Member Since: 8/13/2012
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
i feel like one of the reasons gay people are less respected is because we typically do not have children nor raise families. While straights go off to form families and worry about school, the next generation, etc, I know so many gay people in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who are still doing the club scene as if they were 20.
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and? does that make them lesser persons? are we judging people on raising children now? the world is overpopulated we are doing it a favor
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Originally posted by MaRy
and? does that make them lesser persons? are we judging people on raising children now? the world is overpopulated we are doing it a favor
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I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that might be part of the reason.
And to be objective, it is a little shallow when your straight peers, in their 50s, are worrying about their kids going off to college, etc, and you're surfing Grindr for a bear.
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Originally posted by MaRy
she did that? why?  |
I really don't know. She made a comment towards the end about being an ally. Which is okay, I guess. But, to spend the majority of the speech discussing "radical jihadism/Islam" seemed very conservative and borderline pandering. And on a tragedy of this scale, it was a bit tasteless.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that might be part of the reason.
And to be objective, it is a little shallow when your straight peers, in their 50s, are worrying about their kids going off to college, etc, and you're surfing Grindr for a bear.
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There's literally nothing shallow about pursuing whatever makes you happy tbh
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Member Since: 8/13/2012
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that might be part of the reason.
And to be objective, it is a little shallow when your straight peers, in their 50s, are worrying about their kids going off to college, etc, and you're surfing Grindr for a bear.
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why is it shallow? they are single and are looking for mates, what is wrong with that? what is wrong with sex? does being sexual make them worse persons? I don;t get it... they still care for friends, they still care for community, for parents...
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that might be part of the reason.
And to be objective, it is a little shallow when your straight peers, in their 50s, are worrying about their kids going off to college, etc, and you're surfing Grindr for a bear.
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And that affects your life how? Keep stereotyping though!
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Originally posted by AstroBall
There's literally nothing shallow about pursuing whatever makes you happy tbh
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exactly... people look for love in different ways and no way is better than another, don't judge
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Originally posted by AstroBall
There's literally nothing shallow about pursuing whatever makes you happy tbh
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Originally posted by MaRy
why is it shallow? they are single and are looking for mates, what is wrong with that? what is wrong with sex? does being sexual make them worse persons? I don;t get it... they still care for friends, they still care for community, for parents...
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True, and again, I'm not saying that it's wrong. I'm just saying that "caring about looking hot/hooking up with hotties" occupies a little big more of your typical older gay's mind than your typical straight parent's minds. I'm not saying everyone is like that, and I'm not saying one is right or wrong...but one deals more with material and physical vanity, while the other is more dealing with with existential questions and questions about future generations.
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Originally posted by MaRy
Obama said it was a hate crime?
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Well not really. He said it was a "Crime of Hate". And I think that was his way of not committing without getting attacked.
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
True, and again, I'm not saying that it's wrong. I'm just saying that "caring about looking hot/hooking up with hotties" occupies a little big more of your typical older gay's mind than your typical straight parent's minds. I'm not saying everyone is like that, and I'm not saying one is right or wrong...but one deals more with material and physical vanity, while the other is more dealing with with existential questions and questions about future generations.
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I think it's a cultural perception that gay men are deviant and promiscuous. You also have to consider the fact that meeting gay men is difficult; leading to people to rely on apps and taking longer to find stable relationships (if that's what they even want). It's a lot more complex than just a gay/straight dynamic
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
True, and again, I'm not saying that it's wrong. I'm just saying that "caring about looking hot/hooking up with hotties" occupies a little big more of your typical older gay's mind than your typical straight parent's minds. I'm not saying everyone is like that, and I'm not saying one is right or wrong...but one deals more with material and physical vanity, while the other is more dealing with with existential questions and questions about future generations.
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not really... there are many gays who are more spiritual than your average soccer mom and do more for society at large than living in a suburban house and raising a privileged kid...
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They are seen as gay people, not people who happen to be gay.
For instance. Say a person does something amazing, they'll be forever known as the "first-gay this". Their orientation will forever be what's associated with them.
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
True, and again, I'm not saying that it's wrong. I'm just saying that "caring about looking hot/hooking up with hotties" occupies a little big more of your typical older gay's mind than your typical straight parent's minds. I'm not saying everyone is like that, and I'm not saying one is right or wrong...but one deals more with material and physical vanity, while the other is more dealing with with existential questions and questions about future generations.
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Again with the generalizations. 
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Originally posted by AstroBall
I think it's a cultural perception that gay men are deviant and promiscuous. You also have to consider the fact that meeting gay men is difficult; leading to people to rely on apps and taking longer to find stable relationships (if that's what they even want). It's a lot more complex than just a gay/straight dynamic
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I think it's more along the lines of gender differences. I don't think what I said applies to lesbian women, especially the lesbian women I know in my personal life.
I think there's something about men that makes them more visual and, as a result, a little more superficial--gay, straight, bi, pan, etc. In a straight relationship, this superficiality is tempered a bit by women who tend to be more emotionally intelligent and mature so as a result, straight men in long term relationships grow and become more wise both because of the female influence and because of the natural hurdles of raising a newly formed human being.
Gay men who choose not to adopt typically don't have this advantage. You're right that gay men also tend to fall in and out of new relationships quickly and that might also be because the foundations of many gay relationships are not tempered by thoughts of raising children together, sticking together as a family for the kids, etc.
There's a lot more to this, I'm sure. But this is just sort of my rough understanding. It's not bad per se, but it's just different.
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Possibly. The interesting thing is that people from the right seems to be showing more support than liberals, hmmm...
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Lol, okay little Trumpster.
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Don't believe the right wing "support". They don't give a **** about us.
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Originally posted by Kamren
They only care about using us to hate on brown people and win elections Never forget that they're anti-gay marriage and want to make it okay to discriminate gays based on religious preference. |
Pretty much.
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Originally posted by MaRy
not really... there are many gays who are more spiritual than your average soccer mom and do more for society at large than living in a suburban house and raising a privileged kid...
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Of course, stereotyping is bad. I"m kinda just making observations based on my interactions with the gay community and the people I know and have met, as well as my friends who kind of see it in the same way. There's exceptions to every rule, and yeah of course, lots of super shallow straight people too.
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Of course, stereotyping is bad. I"m kinda just making observations based on my interactions with the gay community and the people I know and have met, as well as my friends who kind of see it in the same way. There's exceptions to every rule, and yeah of course, lots of super shallow straight people too.
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You seem to be basing your idea of the gay community from what you've seen in nightclubs / hookup apps, which is not representative of the average gay.
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
You seem to be basing your idea of the gay community from what you've seen in nightclubs / hookup apps, which is not representative of the average gay. |
i mean, most gays I know are actually in stable relationships or married 
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
You seem to be basing your idea of the gay community from what you've seen in nightclubs / hookup apps, which is not representative of the average gay. |
maybe it's because I'm in NYC, but so many gays here are single and 40, cruising for the next lay
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Originally posted by loveless
LGBTQ are respected in the United States.
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Not by everyone or we wouldn't have these issues
Even though women and black people have gained equal rights last century they are still fighting for respect. The LGBTQ community is far from it, but we are making huge strides day by day. It takes many years to gain even a sliver of respect. But as long as we keep fighting the light at the end of the tunnel will keep growing
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