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Originally posted by wehan6
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Fully expecting Tommen to finally get sick of being a punk bitch when confronted with Dany's horde, getting scalped, and leaving Cersei despondent when the last two parts of the prophecy become fulfilled: her last son gets killed, and she finally realizes that all of her manipulations were for naught, as neither Margaery nor Sansa were the "younger, more beautiful" queen she needed to be afraid of. After all, Sansa, Margaery and Daenerys are the trinity of current in-universe beauties. Even if Dany has nothing to do with Tommen's death and the Faith Militant kill him when she "chooses violence", it'll all be a classic tragedy when you consider that it's indirectly her fault for empowering the FM due to being threatened by Margaery/The Tyrells back in S5. And I think she'll realize that, and it'll be the one moment even she can't recover from.
Bonus points for Daenerys being the one who probably most resembles a young Cersei (at least in terms of hair color), and the fact that if she had built stronger alliances with Sansa and Margaery (as opposed to alienating and weakening/spreading them thin), that might have been the one hope she had of avoiding the prophecy's fulfillment.
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Originally posted by wehan6
I'm gonna be really upset if
Margaery
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I wouldn't be surprised if they serve an Anne Boleyn tea, Margaery always gave me those vibes... And this season so far has been big on exterminating characters who won't be necessary in the greater conflict.
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
Lemme replace Arya with Marg The Queen Who Is in my show trinity, after Sansa The Queen Who Is to Come and Cersei The Queen Who Was.
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I would live for Sansa being the one who fulfills the prophecy. GRRM does like channeling historical fiction and much of the political intrigue in ASOIAF/GOT had some inspiration from the wars of the roses, and Sansa gives me strong Queen Elizabeth Ts with the whole "lonesome girl whose parent was beheaded in shame for (likely false) charges of high treason by an asshole king" thing, and I would also see a potential Queen Sansa ruling without a husband despite being expected to in order to continue the Stark line... I mean, do ya'll really see her remarrying ever again, given what men (Joffrey -> Littlefinger -> Ramsay) have done to her all her life?
(As far as producing heirs, Rickon will probably be killed by Ramsay, Arya is either "dead" in the TV series or becoming "No One" in the books, Bran probably physically can't have kids at this point, and Jon will either be remembered as a bastard, or a Targaryen)
. All that, and everything she's gone through was to harden her and teach her the ways of the game. It would be a very GRRM thing to do, with Margaery being the in-universe fake out (who Cersei suspected), Daenarys being the out-of-universe fake out (who we suspect), yet it's Sansa who fulfills the necessary criteria and slips under the radar. And I just don't see the series ending with either Daenerys or Jon ruling anything... They will die martyrs, or in Daenerys' case POTENTIALLY as a tragic villain.
Also, Sophie >>> Lena/Emilia/Natalie in term of beauty
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Originally posted by Eóghan Scherzy
I re-watched the episode and bawled again 
And it's just now that I realized Jon said to Edd something like: "Don't bring the wall down while I'm gone".
What is this s***?  I hate when they do this in tv shows. It's clearly foreshadowing.
I'd like to see what Bran does next, how consume by guilt is he? or does he make another terrible decision or does he learn from this in some way. If the mark (of the Night King on his arm) broke the magic spell on the cave then the mark could break the magic on the wall if Bran passes south of the wall. The same sort of language has been used in the books to describe the magic of the wall, now if Bran goes back south of wall because it's safest place for him and Meera to go, to get to Jon, that could break the magic of the wall which could either let the White Walkers follow him or could even bring the wall down, I don't know. It's a huge guess. If Bran does THAT. Then I will start to give him a hard time. 
I don't think show watchers know that there's magic in the wall that keeps the White Walker's out and that's the main reason why they haven't marched south of the wall yet cause they literally can't get past the wall the same way that they couldn't get in the cave before. Maybe Benioff and Weiss let go of that idea and in the show it's just a big ass wall. No magic.
In the books she's deep in the "no one" s**t to the point she forgot most of her childhood. In the show they're definitely going the other way, it doesn't feel like it but they're speeding things up just like Sansa. (who is still stuck in the Vale in the books)
I think they're skipping the "no one" phase of the book in the show, she directly doesn't buy any of it and doesn't want to be a Faceless Men. My guess is still that she will soon leave Essos and replace LSH. |
1) I think the foreshadowing with Bran might even go a bit deeper, if going south of the wall really brings winter to westeros. IIRC early in the first book after Bran got pushed from the tower, we got a lot of info about how interested Bran was in magic, the children of the forest, and the others. Even in Chapter 1, he had some internal dialogue about Others, while I don't think any other POV characters had much on the supernatural aspects of the show. It would be ironic and DEFINITELY foreshadowing if the boy who is interested in and at one point wished for that kind of magic, is what actually literally brings it back into the world of Westeros.
2) I also think you might be right with Arya fulfilling the role of LSH, a la "Arya"/Jeyne becoming S5 Sansa, not that that qualifies as a
glowing endorsement of their cast streamlining.
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On an unrelated note, Chapter 1 of the first book was full of symbolism, now that I look back on it for the first time:
The dead direwolf being found with a shattered antler in it, foreshadowing both the death of Ned and the fall of house Baratheon. Also, Jon not getting a direwolf until the very end (showing that he is part of their family, but somehow different), and the one he gets being an albino (R+L=J & Targaryens are known for their silvery hair). And then of course, the foreshadowing from that point and in subsequent Bran chapters with tons of talk of Others, Children of the Forest and stuff.
