What was the point of "Why didn't you tell him the truth about Riverrun" (to Jon) said by Brienne to Sansa?
I re-watched the whole episode and the Hodor scene ****ed me up again. Summer too
Arya watching that theatre scene too
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+ the fact she lied to Jon/and the others about meeting Littlefinger is another scene where we see her playing the game. What's the point of lying about this and saying she heard about Blackfish from Ramsey? She wants to keep Littlefinger/the Vale army as a back up in case everything else fails.
Your answer courtesy of the good sis Eoghan.. Basically imo its because of what LF said to her, about her getting her own army because after all Jon is only her half brother. She's keeping her own backup incase the Winterfell takeover fails OR maybe even if people of her own betrays her. That's how I see it
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And what about the new outfits she did for her and more importantly Jon. She's playing the game here again. Pure propaganda. She did the exact same outfit Catelyn used to do for Ned Stark and gave it to Jon? why the same? why not do something different? Clearly so when they meet the northern lords, they can see in him the second coming of Ned Stark more than just a bastard.
So yeah bad bitch mode activated.
Oh wow I didn't think much about the outfits/werewolves until you pointed this out
Damn Sansa
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Oh I enjoyed the Greyjoys for the first time. But why the **** everybody would follow Euron's "let's go murder them" What did they do?
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Am I the only one who though the whole Iron Island scene felt like a damn parody? Idk it was somehow kinda messy and funny and stupid at times
What happened to the old man saying that bran can't change the past? Why couldn't he be heard or seen before (was just a spectator) but now he can warg into past selves?
He can't...what happened so far was always supposed to happen. Hodor's was always going to be Hodor's, but it was sort of a time paradox so you don't know which came first: it's a chicken or egg thing.
The only death this episode that made me sad was Summer's
Hodor, well, that was cute of him dying protecting the others but that's what fillers like him do
And the idiotic COTF should've been dead long ago. They made this mess that's going to ruin everyone.
So is there any official explanation from D&D about what really happened? Cause I'm really confused with Bran's power. Everything he sees already happened at the moment when he goes back to see it and yet he is somehow responsible for what's happening? He wasn't even alive when the Mad King thing happened...
Yes. Hodor was always going to be Hodor. The Bloodraven knew he was going to die anyway. It's a time paradox so you don't know which came first (chicken, egg).
I don't think anyone has ever done both greensight AND warging. But Bran was a novice when he did it...so when Meera asked the future Bran to warg into Hodor, he also inadvertently warged into the young Hodor...things ****ed up.
The only death this episode that made me sad was Summer's
Hodor, well, that was cute of him dying protecting the others but that's what fillers like him do
And the idiotic COTF should've been dead long ago. They made this mess that's going to ruin everyone.
Hodor is called a supporting cast. His role was pivotal in essentially keeping Bran safe for the past 5 seasons, in showing us the extraordinary warging ability of Bran, and the consequences of Bran's power. That's not filler at all.
I'll break it down for you:
Bran and Bloodraven are in a vision of Winterfell 30 years prior.
Young Hodor is in this vision.
The Wights and Walkers attack and Meera screams for Bran to wake up.
Bran hears this and attempts to warg into current day Hodor from the vision.
The warging works well enough, but it causes interference with Young Hodor and causes a loop.
This loop mentally connects present day Hodor, Young Hodor and Bran as one entity.
Old Hodor was already warged in the past, so doing so didn't cause a problem.
Young Hodor has never been warged before, so the mixture of someone taking over his mind, the mental anguish of being ripped apart and hearing people screaming at him caused him to break.
I think this is a nice explanation tho some of yall already did that here. From reddit.
But I'm still very confused as to how powerful Bran can be because he can time travel and warg into the past and future. What a mess
ALSO, I wonder why the Night's King himself came to slay the 3ER as if he's THAT important. Very interested to know more about that
A friend of mine told me to never get attached to any characters when it comes to the show and last night's episode just proved that to be true. Like, just wow.
Hodor dying like that literally screwed me up so much on an such emotional level. I know that he didn't really do anything other than help Bran out or say anything other than his own name but he was just such a great character. I haven't cried that much since Dobby died in Harry Potter, and I knew that was going to happen from the books but damn... That final scene broke me and his story coming to full circle like that
Bran remains a piece of **** for being the reason that Summer, Hodor, the Leaf and the CotF ended up dying but I guess it had to happen.
I still couldn't understand the last part though. Did present Bran warg into past Hodor and then not exit, causing past Hodor to have a fit/be screwed up or...? Idk.
Also, I can't at that random schlong popping up on the screen. Welp, it's been a minute but twas very welcome
Kinvara (or whatever her name is) aka the new Red Priestess making Varys squeal a little had me howling a bit. Omg, she read him
Could someone explain why the Night's King personally went to go attack Bran and all the others instead of sending his squad? What's the significance of him heading there? Also, how the hell did he sense/see Bran in that vision? Why was he that bothered?
Sansa's a grown woman now y'all and I love it. YES bitch YES
Yes. Hodor was always going to be Hodor. The Bloodraven knew he was going to die anyway. It's a time paradox so you don't know which came first (chicken, egg).
I don't think anyone has ever done both greensight AND warging. But Bran was a novice when he did it...so when Meera asked the future Bran to warg into Hodor, he also inadvertently warged into the young Hodor...things ****ed up.
Correct me if I'm wrong since we're talking about paradoxes, but isn't it pointless to blame Bran for being stupid? I mean Hodor had to have died this way, Bran going to see the Night King is something that had to have happened because otherwise Hodor wouldn't have had to hold that door and wouldn't have been called Hodor in the first place.
In a way it was foretold it was going to happen, for lack of a better term.
Maybe because the sins she must atone for are different from Cersei's?
Also. My confusion about Euron is that he became king by promising to deliver Khaleesi, which would have been very interesting for the show, but as soon as he became king his sole motivation was killing off Yara and Theon, which he will inevitably fail at. So we're probably gonna have to watch him chase after his niece and nephew for a while, which will not be nearly as interesting as him trying to find Khaleesi.
Summer too 
What did they do?
Bye.