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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
Yes... Everything after the 70s was wiped, so everything before the 70s wasn't wiped and thus is apart of the continuity. Again, your confusion?  |
And it still makes no sense.
Xavier: "When I was 17, I met a young man named Erik Lensherr"
*Sees Xavier in his 20s in First Class"
And before you say, "well that's X1 and X1 is cancelled", he was talking about a time BEFORE X1, a time, that, as you have just said, wasn't wiped.
And sorry, this new timeline doesn't explain how Jubilee, who was a student in X1 and X2, is now suddenly been born 20 years earlier and is now a student with Jean and Scott. It doesn't explain how Psylocke, who we saw in X3, is also now born 20 years earlier in the new timeline. Same for Angel. It doesn't explain how Bolivar Trask went from Bill Sykes to Peter Dinklage.
Oh I almost forgot! Singer wanted the audience to simply "forget" about all these issues.
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"Some things you let go. In X-Men 3 Bolivar Trask was an African-American guy, in X-Men 1 I personally wrote the line that of course I now regret: ‘When I was 17, I met a young man named Erik Lensherr’ and then in X-Men: First Class I changed that! Some of these I hope the audience will forget about but for the bulk of it I pay attention to the universe."
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/bryan...inuity-errors/
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Oh deary old me. So please, go and get upset with someone who cares. I do not care about your feelings. I simply saw a post on here and responded to it, accordingly. You (and a few others) got your panties in a bunch. Deal with it or do something about it.
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And it still makes no sense.
Xavier: "When I was 17, I met a young man named Erik Lensherr"
*Sees Xavier in his 20s in First Class"
And before you say, "well that's X1 and X1 is cancelled", he was talking about a time BEFORE X1, a time, that, as you have just said, wasn't wiped.
And sorry, this new timeline doesn't explain how Jubilee, who was a student in X1 and X2, is now suddenly been born 20 years earlier and is now a student with Jean and Scott. It doesn't explain how Psylocke, who we saw in X3, is also now born 20 years earlier in the new timeline. Same for Angel. It doesn't explain how Bolivar Trask went from Bill Sykes to Peter Dinklage.
Oh I almost forgot! Singer wanted the audience to simply "forget" about all these issues.
Oh deary old me. So please, go and get upset with someone who cares. I do not care about your feelings. I simply saw a post on here and responded to it, accordingly. You (and a few others) got your panties in a bunch. Deal with it or do something about it.
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So he admits he made a messy mistake, you can have that one then.
Because the timeline moved branched in a new path and changes happened because of it. Professor X was also bald and with Magneto when he first met Jean. That has seemingly changed in origin as well. I'm not sure why you aren't getting that a new timeline, which basically amounts to an alternate universe, would include changes like birthdays moving up. Once again, they are not working towards anything in the previous trilogy and Wolverine movies, but you can keep it. I don't need to hear about it.
Who said you had to care about my feelings, boo? You doing too much in the club. Lets just agree to disagree and keep it moving.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
So he admits he made a messy mistake, you can have that one then.
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It's not one messy mistakes, it's a lot of them, hence why he said he hopes the audience will forget about "them". Plural. Them.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
Because the timeline moved branched in a new path and changes happened because of it.
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LOL ok. Yes. Timeline changing meant that characters were born earlier and even changed races. Ok.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
Professor X was also bald and with Magneto when he first met Jean. That has seemingly changed in origin as well. I'm not sure why you aren't getting that a new timeline, which basically amounts to an alternate universe, would include changes like birthdays moving up. Once again, they are not working towards anything in the previous trilogy and Wolverine movies, but you can keep it. I don't need to hear about it.
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Thank you for pointing out more ******** from the movies. I didn't even think of that one.
And this new timeline is an OFFSHOOT from an old one. It's not a completely separate alternate reality. If it was, we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?
"I don't need to hear about it"- In the words of Dionne Warwick, "walk on by". Nobody was speaking to you in the first place.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
Who said you had to care about my feelings, boo? You doing too much in the club. Lets just agree to disagree and keep it moving.
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You do know when I said "go and get upset with someone who cares", that was me basically telling you to keep it moving.
Instead of you doing just that when I posted my initial comment, you chose to engage me. Now all of sudden, you want to agree to disagree and keep it moving. How Singer of you.
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Originally posted by Chimier
It's not one messy mistakes, it's a lot of them, hence why he said he hopes the audience will forget about "them". Plural. Them.
LOL ok. Yes. Timeline changing meant that characters were born earlier and even changed races. Ok.
Thank you for pointing out more ******** from the movies. I didn't even think of that one.
And this new timeline is an OFFSHOOT from an old one. It's not a completely separate alternate reality. If it was, we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?
"I don't need to hear about it"- In the words of Dionne Warwick, "walk on by". Nobody was speaking to you in the first place.
You do know when I said "go and get upset with someone who cares", that was me basically telling you to keep it moving.
Instead of you doing just that when I posted my initial comment, you chose to engage me. Now all of sudden, you want to agree to disagree and keep it moving. How Singer of you.
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I don't know why you trying to punch with that race change mess. We both acknowledge it was a mess.
Yes it is an offshoot from the other movies, but they are playing on a different reality from the other movies. DOFP established that when Mystique decided not to shoot Trask, changing the reality and moving AWAY from the destiny they were heading towards in X-1 and the Sentinel takeover. But ok... You're just not getting it.
Lord in Christ. I engaged you because I was hoping we could have a discussion. When it became abundantly apparent that isn't going to happen that wasn't going to happen, of course I want it keep it moving because why would I continue? But don't worry, this is my last reply. Save those keystrokes.
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Im pretty sure Bryan is making this timeline without actually really care about their age tho
I mean .... His a tacky director for all these xmen film all along so why is ppl really surprised abt the actual age timeline thingy?
He only give explanation for those he can and pretend the others never happened when he cant explain
We should know by now his not following 100% comic / timeline accuracy so whats good
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Originally posted by dondiva
Im pretty sure Bryan is making this timeline without actually really care about their age tho
I mean .... His a tacky director for all these xmen film all along so why is ppl really surprised abt the actual age timeline thingy?
He only give explanation for those he can and pretend the others never happened when he cant explain
We should know by now his not following 100% comic / timeline accuracy so whats good |
But that is the thing. If the rule he establish was that if Mystique doesn't kill Trask, that everything changes and the reality changes, why are we asking questions about birthdays. He sent the rules for DOFP and he successful did it and now everything is changed. The original films do not apply to this continuity, making this a different reality. Ages are changed and whatnot. We never met Jean and the others in this reality to know when they were born, so why does it matter?
But I'm sleep though, literally. Goodnight.
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LOL ok. Yes. Timeline changing meant that characters were born earlier and even changed races. Ok.
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Characters being born earlier isn't a plothole. The beauty of the concept of time travel and altering timelines is that there is so much that can be done with it. Who knows what the events in DOFP could have caused for the future. The ripple effect, which can affect even the tiniest detail in a 'previous timeline' is pretty much a staple for time travel. So certain characters' parents conceiving them at an earlier period isn't out of the question. Time, in respect to Fox's X-Men universe, isn't linear or set in stone.
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This thread. 
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
I don't know why you trying to punch with that race change mess. We both acknowledge it was a mess.
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That and other things.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
Yes it is an offshoot from the other movies, but they are playing on a different reality from the other movies. DOFP established that when Mystique decided not to shoot Trask, changing the reality and moving AWAY from the destiny they were heading towards in X-1 and the Sentinel takeover. But ok... You're just not getting it.
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This literally has NOTHING to do with the characters being born 20 years earlier than previously established, but ok.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
Lord in Christ. I engaged you because I was hoping we could have a discussion. When it became abundantly apparent that isn't going to happen that wasn't going to happen, of course I want it keep it moving because why would I continue? But don't worry, this is my last reply. Save those keystrokes.
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Originally posted by Kahi
Characters being born earlier isn't a plothole. The beauty of the concept of time travel and altering timelines is that there is so much that can be done with it. Who knows what the events in DOFP could have caused for the future. The ripple effect, which can affect even the tiniest detail in a 'previous timeline' is pretty much a staple for time travel. So certain characters' parents conceiving them at an earlier period isn't out of the question. Time, in respect to Fox's X-Men universe, isn't linear or set in stone.
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Certain parents conceiving them earlier would also mean that their parents were born 20 years earlier, and THEIR parents born 20 years earlier, and so on and so forth, which would mean the changes in the future would be affecting the "untouched" past, so.....nice explanation and all, but nah.
This is just one part of the problem. We won't get into the other problems, like the poor characterization and shoddy development of storyline. Enjoy your movie.
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Originally posted by Chimier
Certain parents conceiving them earlier would also mean that their parents were born 20 years earlier, and THEIR parents born 20 years earlier, and so on and so forth, which would mean the changes in the future would be affecting the "untouched" past, so.....nice explanation and all, but nah.
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Wat? 
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the avengers remain the superior ahihi
anyway still no premiere date in vietnam
like what the flying ****?
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The parents of the X-Men wouldn't necessarily be born 20 years earlier. It'd just means that they'd conceive them in their late teens, early twenties at the most instead of their late thirties / forties. Either that or the parents would be born a few years earlier than usual and making the same adjustments for the X-Men (barring both Professor X and Magneto).
Also that's the peril of time-traveling / realities, even a very microscopical change in the timeline can change everything (even certain qualities of the past; the birth / timeline of a person's lifespan). Whatever the case is, the only things that are immutable are key events that happen in those instances (Magneto's WWII internment camp experience for one). Fate seems to have an ironic sense of timing and humor about these things.
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Let's use Jubes as an example.
I'm assuming she's around 17 in X-Men 2 which occured in 2003. So she was conceived in 1986. I'm also assuming her age in Apocalypse (1983) is 17 (because that's Lana Condor's age). That means her parents conceived her in the latter timeline in 1966.
Since we know **** all about her or any of the other characters' parents, we can do what we want when it comes to their ages. They could also remain the same age they were in the original timeline. Say Jubilee's parents were both 20 years of age in 1966. They would be 40 years of age in 1986. They could have conceived her at either time.
Hell look at Warren's dad in The Last Stand.
Using Michael Murphy (the actor)'s age during the Last Stand (65), that means he would have been in his 40s when he conceived his son. Apocalypse Angel could therefore have been conceived when he was in his 20s.
So tl;dr **** outta here with this 'born 20 years earlier' ********. Since the parents' age was never specified the producers can do anything, so they can be kept the same age they were in the old timeline.
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So excited to see this tomorrow despite the reviews, but it's such a kii that it's 1% away from fresh on RT.
X-men has always been one of my favourite comic-to-movie ports.
Is this worth watching in IMAX?
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The spoon feeding that is demanded for a fantasy world... dear lord... you'll still pay $15 bucks for the film and/or invest your time watching it, just enjoy it for what it is and move on.
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I know it won't happen, but i would love W III to include Rogue, Kitty Pride, Iceman and other characters from the future.
Also Blink >>>
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its definitely possible, for some of the key old man logan scenes they need some of his closest X-men friends for the scene to work.
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What is happening here. 
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the essays 
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This was one comment. One of the few times I've commented in this thread. Not that deep. No one cares about you. I wasn't even addressing you.
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You're like the Azealia Banks of this entire ****ing thread 
One more day for the first set of markets to finally get Apoc!
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