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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I voted for Bernie because I believe he will push for what needs to happen ASAP, like climate change, universal healthcare, the ability for anyone to get a college education, infrastructure improvements, and net neutrality. We need to cut back our pollution and switch to greener energy sources ASAP, and no one should be in debt because they are trying or tried to better themselves or because they had an expensive medical incident. Net neutrality should be obvious (although for Republicans many things that should be obvious aren't for them). Our infrastructure needs improvement all around, especially roads, bridges, public transportation, and broadband. Copper wires should be upgraded to fiber throughout the country.
That said, Hillary does have policies that are also great, and I hope the nominee adopts the best policies of the both of them. I'd be happy if Hillary just pushed climate change, stayed against the TPP, pushed for improved road systems and public transportation, pushed for competition in broadband, and protected net neutrality tbh.
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
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I hope so. But I don't think we can assume that blue states will be able to stay blue this election.
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Member Since: 10/9/2011
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I think Trump may win the whole thing, the primaries have already weakened Hillary so much. We'll see though
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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Originally posted by Butters
I hope so. But I don't think we can assume that blue states will be able to stay blue this election.
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Blue states turning red? For TRUMP? Yeah, I don't think so.
EDIT: Even so, she pay only lose MI and WI at the most. And she has potential to get that back with the newly purple (IMO) Louisiana, NC, and SC. She'll only need NC if that happens. I'm really trying to make a plausible scenario for Trump and it's not working out quite well.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Trump went haywire today oh my goodness how can people...like that?
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Trump is a buffoon, but Hilary is no beacon of morality herself. Just from the email scandal alone:
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It becomes very clear why the FBI is taking so long with their investigations into Hillary Clinton and The Clinton Foundation.
In response to a recent FOIA request by Jason Leopold of Vice News, the FBI is claimed they can't release documents including recovered personal emails deleted from Hillary's private email server per 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(7)(A) also known as FOIA exemption 7(a).
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-redacted.html
Information compiled for law enforcement purposes that:
7(A). Could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings
The invocation of FOIA exemption 7(a) implies that the FBI recovered evidence within the 32,000+ deleted emails critical to its criminal investigation.
The FBI response implies several things.
there could be indictments, including destruction of evidence.
Hillary repeatedly lied about the content of deleted emails to mislead the public and the FBI.
the FBI believes that releasing information could tip off targets.
the FBI believes that releasing the name of the Declarant (FBI agent) will tip off the type of investigation.
the FBI believes that releasing the name of the Declarant (FBI agent) could lead to threats, reprisal, or political interference.
All of it makes sense.
the hidden email server to avoid FOIA.
failure to turn over emails upon leaving government.
destruction of evidence after receipt of a congressional subpoena.
various donations to The Clinton Foundation after deals authorized by Hillary at State
various conflicts of interest with paid speeches by Bill Clinton
over 1100 undisclosed foreign donors bundled and laundered donations to The Clinton Foundation via the Canadian shell company Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership.
re-filing six years of tax returns for The Clinton Foundation.
top Clinton aides simultaneously employed at State and by The Clinton Foundation or Teneo Holdings
top Clinton aides have retained the same legal counsel to prevent a scenario of prisoner's dilemma
DNS records and emails released by the US State Department suggest that Clinton's private server was used for Clinton Foundation business during and after her term as Secretary of State.
presidentclinton.com was the official website for The Clinton Foundation
[ 2009 , 2011 ] - presidentclinton.com
mail.clintonemail.com and mail.presidentclinton.com shared the IP address 24.187.234.187 in 2010 and 64.94.172.146 after 2013. Both had NS records pointing to nameservers hosted by worldnic.com
[ 2010 ] - mail.clintonemail.com
[ 2010 ] - mail.presidentclinton.com
From September 8, 2009 until June 24, 2011, Bill Clinton’s Foundation-run mail.presidentclinton.com server had an IP address of 24.187.234.187, according to DNS records.
Hillary’s mail.clintonemail.com server had the same exact IP address, 24.187.234.187, from the dates May 21, 2010 until October 21, 2010, according to DNS records.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Trump has been attacked by everyone including the Pope he is literally unstoppable. I don't see what Hillary could possibly say or do when they compete that will bring him down. Trump is going to bring up her emails, Benghazi, Bill, her vote for Iraq, etc.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
Posts: 71,871
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Trump is a buffoon, but Hilary is no beacon of morality herself. Just from the email scandal alone:
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Hmm, this is interesting. Wonder what the final outcome will be
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Istan4R
Trump has been attacked by everyone including the Pope he is literally unstoppable. I don't see what Hillary could possibly say or do when they compete that will bring him down. Trump is going to bring up her emails, Benghazi, Bill, her vote for Iraq, etc.
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I think this would have worked w/ another candidate, but the race stuff is such a wall that even Bernie couldn't overcome.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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You know what will stop Trump. DEMOCRATS. Stop doubting our power.
Hillary doesn't need to convince the Republicans or Trump supporters to vote for her. She needs to continue with the Obama coalition and simply win. He can bring up Benghazi all he wants. People don't care about that. They want to know how you will create jobs and wages and how will you defeat ISIS. He has no plans, and has insulted over half of America. GE =/= primaries
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Hmm, this is interesting. Wonder what the final outcome will be
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Hilary said today that she hadn't spoken to the FBI yet. Of course not. If this was just a "security review", they would have spoken to her already since she said at the start she was willing to talk. But you always speak to the target of an investigation last. They are going to talk to every low level person first and hand out more immunities (one so far). Then, when they finally speak to her they will know the answer to every question they will ask her, and will force to plead guilty or catch her in a lie.
This is speculation of course.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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59% of IN GOP want people outside the establishment
Even a Cruz/Kasich pact couldn't stop Trump
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 3,830
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Originally posted by Flanders
I think Trump may win the whole thing, the primaries have already weakened Hillary so much. We'll see though
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The more false **** they talk about Donald the more popular he gets. Slay King 
If Donald wins, I'm moving to America fat 
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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People can say whatever they want about them emails. Hillary is our next prezzie and no one is gonna change that.
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Originally posted by Jan
If Donald wins, I'm moving to America fat |
Illegally, of course. The irony 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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50% of dems say next president should continue Obama's policies. 36% say it should be more liberal
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Member Since: 11/4/2010
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Originally posted by RatedG²
50% of dems say next president should continue Obama's policies. 36% say it should be more liberal
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Good for Hillary
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
50% of dems say next president should continue Obama's policies. 36% say it should be more liberal
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+1 for Hillary so far. Let's see what the other exit polls say. 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Latinazza
People can say whatever they want about them emails. Hillary is our next prezzie and no one is gonna change that.
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We'll see what the FBI has to say.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
We'll see what the FBI has to say.
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I bet you would love that wouldn't you. It's not going to happen tho. Bookmark and remember these words. 
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Member Since: 1/4/2012
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Getting annoyed people keep ignoring the minority vote. It takes more than just white men to win the presidency.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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IMO every primary should be semi-closed. Independents should be allowed to vote in either primary, but members of the opposing party shouldn't.
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