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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Reaper
Bernie's rally in Baltimore (which population is 63% black) 
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😂 this is very telling
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by keepitundercover
this was such a good read with so many valid points. I loved this snippet
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Not really
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
Not really
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Did you even read it? It was a fantastic read with many good points. If you want to go through and debunk/defend every single criticism, be my guest.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Anti-vaxxers are the pits. It was a cute movement when very briefly there was no proof they were wrong but now it's just embarrassing. Everyone has a conspiracy theory.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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That piece about becoming anti-Bernie is spot on!!! I'll use it from now on when someone praises Bernie and attacks Hillary for false reasoning. Would love to see how people spin it. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by The Countess
It was a fake quote! Sorry! |
Thank god 
And i love that becoming Anti-Bernie piece!
i posted it a while back but you uglies ignored it
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Bloo
Did you even read it? It was a fantastic read with many good points. If you want to go through and debunk/defend every single criticism, be my guest.
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I don't have the time tbh
But just from that little excerpt I'm sure it'd be nothing new 
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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I love seeing progressives such as Green Party's Jill Stein get people riled up over even fake quotes! The right wing of the left is so shook they're even shaming people who vote outside of the two-party system. Sad!
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
I don't have the time tbh
But just from that little excerpt I'm sure it'd be nothing new |
Yeah it exposes Bernie for the fraud he truly is.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Hillary supporters calling Bernie a fraud.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Yeah it exposes Bernie for the fraud he truly is.
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No
It's the same thing Hillary stans have been saying this entire time: he won't work with anyone and refuses to compromise, which is false.
And Bernie isn't obligated to unite the party. He'll do it if he wants to. Maybe if Hillary didn't go negative we wouldn't have this problem.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
Hillary supporters calling Bernie a fraud.
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Originally posted by Marvin
No
It's the same thing Hillary stans have been saying this entire time: he won't work with anyone and refuses to compromise, which is false.
And Bernie isn't obligated to unite the party. He'll do it if he wants to. Maybe if Hillary didn't go negative we wouldn't have this problem. |
Stay delusional. Hillary already won. It's just funny to see people praise him for things that clearly don't apply to him in the way he projects himself this campaign. We know Hillary isn't this perfect candidate and person.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Just two more days
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Originally posted by Marvin
No
It's the same thing Hillary stans have been saying this entire time: he won't work with anyone and refuses to compromise, which is false.
And Bernie isn't obligated to unite the party. He'll do it if he wants to. Maybe if Hillary didn't go negative we wouldn't have this problem. |
It actually brings up new points and digs deeper into old arguments
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Attacking Hillary Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that her husband signed when she was First Lady is intellectually dishonest. This is so on several grounds. First, his attacks omit that he himself voted for that bill; Clinton supporters have had to bring that up. Second, Sanders keeps attacking Hillary for having on one occasion, two years after the bill was passed, used the term “superpredator”, when she has already apologized for it, said she would not use it today, and has put it in context (which I think makes clear it was not intended as code for race or to apply broadly), and yet he never admits that he used the term “sociopath” when supporting that same bill, nor has he ever apologized for doing so. Instead, he rips out all context and background for that bill, pins the entirety of its consequences on Hillary (who did not vote for it), and omits his own role in voting for it and the reasons why so many people supported it at the time, including him and the Congressional Black Caucus, despite its warts. So he blames Hillary for the draconian sentencing rules that the GOP insisted on in order to pass the bill, contributing to a false narrative he has constructed that Hillary is not actually a liberal.
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He attacks anyone who does not agree with him or who endorses Clinton as “establishment.” Thus, Planned Parenthood, which has been subject to so much hate and false attack and whose employees risk their lives on a daily basis to go to work in the face of death threats and bombings, is “the establishment” — so its endorsement of Hillary is to be written off and distrusted. Same goes for NARAL. Same goes for the Human Rights Campaign, and long-time public servants like Barney Frank, and Emily’s List, which is dedicated to electing women to office. The list goes on and on. According to Team Sanders, there is no legitimate reason not to support him — if you don’t, it must be because you are a shill, an establishment member, an apologist for the status quo, not a true progressive, not a real liberal. There is no space for considering that Planned Parenthood and NARAL endorsed Clinton because she has been a champion for reproductive rights, not simply a supporter. There is no space for considering that Sanders’ paucity of endorsements from other politicians and organizations could possibly be based on the view that Clinton is more qualified, more experienced, has a better platform, is a better leader, is more likable, is more likely to achieve progressive goals, has done more to advance equality, has a better record, or any other metric.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Bernie is a fraud?  Happy Sunday, everyone!
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Stay delusional. Hillary already won. It's just funny to see people praise him for things that clearly don't apply to him in the way he projects himself this campaign. We know Hillary isn't this perfect candidate and person.
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Hillary has not yet won the Democratic Presidential nomination for the 2016 cycle. In order to win, you'd need to be elected by the delegates at the national convention which takes place in Philadelphia at the end of July. Yes, Hillary is on track to be the nominee and will most likely take it home, considering her lead in pledged delegates, but she has not yet won the nomination.
Here's more on the current delegation count as well as the process.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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The fumes.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
The fumes. |
I don't know what applies as 'fumes' in your dictionary, but I have consistently said that Hillary is someone I'd be very happy to see as president and is one of the three great options we had during this primary, along with Senator Sanders and Governor O'Malley.
What goes under 'fumes' in my dictionary is persistently trying to undermine the record of a great option who's very much on track to lose the nomination anyway and other progressive figures surrounding him, and, in my opinion, this derives from the anti-progressive rhetoric and propaganda as well as disregard towards current millennial frustration with the system that we've frequently been seeing this campaign cycle.
(Not personally targeting anyone on here)
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
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Thrilling @burdentruth
@BernieSanders in the last 30 days insulted: blks, the south, Obama and poor people. Does he ever even mention the republicans anymore?
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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YAS! Here for this going national and even global. 
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