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Celeb News: M.I.A: Is Beyoncé going to say Muslim Lives Matter?
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Originally posted by Chimier
No, she did not.
She said the only problem you're "allowed" to talk about in America is BLM. This is a lie. As people have stated, blacks are aggressive in getting their voices heard over the noise and those trying to silence them. Let's not forget the constant opposition and vitriol that BLM gets EVERY SINGLE DAY. Ain't no damn "allowed".
Black people are not the oppression mule. It is not up to us to carry the burdens of every oppressed group, which is exactly what she was contributing to by naming Beyonce and Kendrick. There are far more powerful people than Beyonce and Kendrick Lamar who can bring awareness to these issues.
Everyone wants black people to speak up and champion every cause, but will never do the same for black people. Nah. Make your voice heard. Shout shout shout shout shout. Scream. Yell it from the rooftops. Go tell it on the mountain. Make your voice known.
Then she should go and call out those with far more power and clout, instead of referring to two black artists who are fighting for black lives.
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She just pointed out that even stars who try to talk social issues are just talking about what people are used to already and are avoiding the biggest world issue happening right now.
There is so many songs addressing war in Vietnam from 60s and 70s and so on. But now, it looks like this generation is numb and ignorant when it comes to world issues especially with the huge US millitary involvement and responsibility for what is happening in the Middle East and the biggest humanitarian tragedy since WWII that goes with it. They say nothing about it at all. M.I.A. is absolutely right.
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Yes,why didn't she pick on non black celibrities?
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Originally posted by rihannafan
Originally posted by Ady. View Post
I miss Rihanna slaying radio, iTunes, Spotify, Youtube all together. 
Can't wait for #R8 and ha only lead single slaying not something GP picks up!
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You must be incredibly delusional, it certainly didn't. The post will never not be funny. And you are off topic.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
She just pointed out that even stars who try to talk social issues are just talking about what people are used to already and are avoiding the biggest world issue happening right now.
There is so many songs addressing war in Vietnam from 60s and 70s and so on. But now, it looks like this generation is numb and ignorant when it comes to world issues especially with the huge US millitary involvement and responsibility for what is happening in the Middle East and the biggest humanitarian tragedy since WWII that goes with it. They say nothing about it at all.
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Do you even know the reason why there were so many protest songs in the 60s? It's so simple. Back in the 60s, Americans in general were extremely well off, unemployment was really low and they had the time to complain about other things when you have no problems at home. Which is why the Civil Rights movement and Vietnam protests took off. People will be much more receptive when times are good vs when times are bad. You think people back then were more cosmopolitan than now? Not really, they just have less problems to worry about.
Secondly, the issues in the Middle East are so, so much more bigger than the US. This is issues that go back to before WWII. You're looking at this in a tiny lens. You think then US was the start of the issue in the Middle East? The issues began with post WWI break up of the Ottoman Empire, oil and colonization. When the French and British colonized, created bad borders, put up horrible leaders, and the Sunni caliphate was removed things fell apart. The US didn't care about the Middle East until the British called them in along with the Soviets.
There's much more to this but I doubt you even care.
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She is not even Muslim, she is ****ing Hindu
and we all know Hindus hate Muslims
I'd like to see her preaching Muslim lives matter in in front of hardcore Hindus and Sikhs
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Originally posted by Tropez
Do you even know the reason why there were so many protest songs in the 60s? It's so simple. Back in the 60s, Americans in general were extremely well off, unemployment was really low and they had the time to complain about other things when you have no problems at home. Which is why the Civil Rights movement and Vietnam protests took off. People will be much more receptive when times are good vs when times are bad. You think people back then were more cosmopolitan than now? Not really, they just have less problems to worry about.
Secondly, the issues in the Middle East are so, so much more bigger than the US. This is issues that go back to before WWII. You're looking at this in a tiny lens. You think then US was the start of the issue in the Middle East? The issues began with post WWI break up of the Ottoman Empire, oil and colonization. When the French and British colonized, created bad borders, put up horrible leaders, and the Sunni caliphate was removed things fell apart. The US didn't care about the Middle East until the British called them in along with the Soviets.
There's much more to this but I doubt you even care.
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This is one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read.
Also Im not saying US started it, Im just saying look at US foreign policy from past 30 years, dont even try to say that US had nothing to do with it. Why almost no artists are addressing that? Its not just US tho. The silence of artists around the world about the issue is just deafening.
Thats why I have the utmost respect to artists like MIA who have the guts to talk about it even when people dont care or want to hear about it. Its extremely important to talk about it now.
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Originally posted by Aviana
She is not even Muslim, she is ****ing Hindu
and we all know Hindus hate Muslims
I'd like to see her preaching Muslim lives matter in in front of hardcore Hindus and Sikhs
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That makes her courage to stand up for the muslims even more admirable imo.
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Originally posted by Aviana
She is not even Muslim, she is ****ing Hindu
and we all know Hindus hate Muslims
I'd like to see her preaching Muslim lives matter in in front of hardcore Hindus and Sikhs
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You're not even making any sense and that's the exact mentality that keeps this hindu/muslim mess going on
Keyword: Hardcore. Preach about that to ANY hardcore religious person and there'll be conflict 
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Originally posted by Bríseis
This is one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read.
Also Im not saying US started it, Im just saying look at US foreign policy from past 30 years, dont even try to say that US had nothing to do with it. Why almost no artists are addressing that? Its not just US tho. The silence of artists around the world about the issue is just deafening.
Thats why I have the utmost respect to artists like MIA who have the guts to talk about it even when people dont care or want to hear about it. Its extremely important to talk about it now.
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I never ever said the US didn't start it. I said there's more to it than the US, and they are not the only country involved. And there have been artists who did attack the involvement of the US in the Middle East. I mean even the Dixie Chicks did that and they're country.
But even in the last 30 years, why aren't you attacking Saudi Arabia. Who have been known to find terrorist organizations? Why aren't you attacking Russia who is willingly letting the Syrian Civial war go on by backing the government there? The US did some pretty messed up things, but it's pretty dumb to ignore other countries who are involved there. Even those in the Middle East themselves.
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Originally posted by Aviana
She is not even Muslim, she is ****ing Hindu
and we all know Hindus hate Muslims
I'd like to see her preaching Muslim lives matter in in front of hardcore Hindus and Sikhs
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Originally posted by Bríseis
That makes her courage to stand up for the muslims even more admirable imo.
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Well, clean up your own backyard before you go knocking on your neighbour's
Has she addressed Muslim lives matter inside her community?
Beyonce voicing about Black lives matter has nothing to do with her.
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It's interesting that some ppl think, you're only obligated to speak up on issues that personally affect you.
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Originally posted by Grumpy Gills
It's interesting that some ppl think, you're only obligated to speak up on issues that personally affect you.
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Why are you obligated to speak on issues that don't personally affect you, especially when your own issues aren't yet resolved?
loads of my own people are being killed on my doorstep but nvm I'll discuss that later, let me just step over them and focus on the other hemisphere..." and vice-versa
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I get what she is trying to say but the way she delivered her message was flawed.
I think what she meant to say is that artists of any and every race or religion should talk about as many social injustices going around the world and not just focus on a handful. Bey is mainly focused on feminism and the fight for black equality (as she is a black woman) but what M.I.A is saying is that Bey should also show concern or support of other international issues. even ones that may seem controversial like the stuff going on in the middle east. She prob thinks artists do not want to speak about muslim lives and what not because they are scared to but i don't think that's the case. I just think they do not know much about the matter yet. ( I also think she is using beyonce as an example..she really means EVERY artist...could be wrong tho)
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Originally posted by Tropez
I never ever said the US didn't start it. I said there's more to it than the US, and they are not the only country involved. And there have been artists who did attack the involvement of the US in the Middle East. I mean even the Dixie Chicks did that and they're country.
But even in the last 30 years, why aren't you attacking Saudi Arabia. Who have been known to find terrorist organizations? Why aren't you attacking Russia who is willingly letting the Syrian Civial war go on by backing the government there? The US did some pretty messed up things, but it's pretty dumb to ignore other countries who are involved there. Even those in the Middle East themselves.
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I am, read some of my past posts about the issue here. Saudi Arabia and Turkey are the most guilty for funding ISIS. But US funded extremic organizations like an Nursa and helped to destabilize the country. Russia is backing the government and I agree with it tbh. Assad has still support and authority in the country and biggest united army, it is needed to back his army to stop the Daesh and then when they are pushed out of Raqqa and most strategic postions we can talk about the political future for Syria, when Syria will have a future as a country. Thats my 5 cents.
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Shes right.
The blm hashtag is only a publicity stunt in most cases
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Originally posted by Bríseis
I am, read some of my past posts about the issue here. Saudi Arabia and Turkey are the most guilty for funding ISIS. But US funded extremic organizations like an Nursa and helped to destabilize the country. Russia is backing the government and I agree with it tbh. Assad has still support and authority in the country and biggest united army, it is needed to back his army to stop the Daesh and then when they are pushed out of Raqqa and most strategic postions we can talk about the political future for Syria, when Syria will have a future as a country. Thats my 5 cents.
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I agree with you, but the US and Russia are doing this to come out as hero's and expand their power. They don't care about Syria. The US wants to push ISIS into Syria and have them defeat Assad so they can come in and take them out. Killing two birds with one stone and looking like the hero. Russia wants the opposite but they're a declining power and won't be able to afford this war. But at the end of the day when it's all said and done. Many countries are the cause the bloodshed. It would only get attention if a celebrity who is taken seriously talks about it. If Beyoncé comes out and speaks about this she'll get attacked because what would she know about it? Her talking about black lives is much stronger because she is black, she knows about the issues. For example no matter how hard a man tries he can never truly speak for what a woman goes through.
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There is nothing wrong with what she is saying and she has a point.
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Why are you people saying MIA is a Muslim? She was raised Tamil Hindu
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MIA so annoying with that extra attitude. She is always bringing down minorities that have accomplished something in their cause, firstly gays with the legalization of gay marriage, now black people who has popularized BLM.
Beyonce doesn't have to speak about anything - she's a singer and a freaking entertainer, not a politician. And MIA is no one to tell Beyonce what she is supposed to talk about.
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Originally posted by Legend ReX
Do the Muslims care about the gay lives they end every day in their countries?
Dumbass.
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Where are the gay lives that end in muslim countries?? This is made up thought u created to suit your hatred to Muslims. Lets talk FACTS.Last time I check during the last 100 years one million algerians killed by French, thousands of palestine people were killed and removed from their land because Britain decides to make a home for jews, US was responsible for the death of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan ...so on. Muslims r the victim of western terrorism.
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