I was referring to college and health care, which from what I've seen seem to be his points which come up the most often. I assume they must be unique to him? Don't know about this other stuff. Like I said, I'm trying to enlighten myself. And, well, y'all aren't particularly helpful with this stan mindset
Then if you're trying to enlighten yourself how about next time instead of characterizing all Hillary supporters "supporting her because she's a woman" why don't you ask us why we support her because nobody in this thread (or irl) supports her because she's a woman only. (Well in sure a small minority does but no one on ATRL)
And trust me that's not anger that's just you not making sense by telling us what is best for us based on another country's model. I'm more than happy you're interested in US politics but things like what you have aren't possible at this time here
Then if you're trying to enlighten yourself how about next time instead of characterizing all Hillary supporters "supporting her because she's a woman" why don't you ask us why we support her because nobody in this thread (or irl) supports her because she's a woman only. (Well in sure a small minority does but no one on ATRL)
And trust me that's not anger that's just you not making sense by telling us what is best for us based on another country's model. I'm more than happy you're interested in US politics but things like what you have aren't possible at this time here
I hate this ****ing argument. People used the same argument against Obama! "Oh they only voted for him cause he's black!"
So the only way we can be non-biased is to have all of our candidates be white males?? That's such bull ****. Get that ****ing argument out of my face.
USA is supposed to be the strongest country in the world, no? If it can happen elsewhere it can happen there. Completely possible with change.
Nnn, gross how? And with your other post, I didn't say anything bad about woman's rights, or even Hilary being possibly a bad leader, I just said that Bernie seems better Rule number one to me seems to be that a leader should be trustworthy. I have viewed this thread many times, and whenever I do it always just appears to be a similar group of Hilary stans defending her like some pop girl going through a controversy. Just drawing parallels here. And duh, but where is an attempt to enlighten me?
Why do y'all continue to do this? You come in here basically throwing shade and then when Hillary supporters clap back, you pull the " you guys should be trying to enlighten me!" How about you come in here and give off the impression that you want to be enlightened rather than playing victim when people come at you back. And it isn't just you. It's a number of people.
I actually think Congress should get paid more so they will be less open to political bribery. 200,000 is actually not alot when you need to keep an office, a home in your home state as well as either form one in the very expensive DC area or commute (also expensive). You also need to fund your elections. If public servants got paid as much as those in the private sector, they would not be so beholden to the K Street lobbyists and other rich donors. Politicians and their poor interns are underpaid considering how costly and taxing the job is
Why do y'all continue to do this? You come in here basically throwing shade and then when Hillary supporters clap back, you pull the " you guys should be trying to enlighten me!" How about you come in here and give off the impression that you want to be enlightened rather than playing victim when people come at you back. And it isn't just you. It's a number of people.
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I actually think Congress should get paid more so they will be less open to political bribery. 200,000 is actually not alot when you need to keep an office, a home in your home state as well as either form one in the very expensive DC area or commute (also expensive). You also need to fund your elections. If public servants got paid as much as those in the private sector, they would not be so beholden to the K Street lobbyists and other rich donors. Politicians and their poor interns are underpaid considering how costly and taxing the job is
That's true now that I think about it. 174K is a lot but not like a LOT. I feel like 200K should be the average (or base pay)
There are some people voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. Same with Obama being black.
I doubt there are any in here doing that (the regulars, at least) but it is happening.
I did admit that. But a very small portion of her voters are. Just like a very small portion of democratic voters vote Sanders because he's a male. At worst it evens out
Why do y'all continue to do this? You come in here basically throwing shade and then when Hillary supporters clap back, you pull the " you guys should be trying to enlighten me!" How about you come in here and give off the impression that you want to be enlightened rather than playing victim when people come at you back. And it isn't just you. It's a number of people.
i may need you to write me a draft post or something
i may need you to write me a draft post or something
You just implied that most of us only support her because of her sexual organs. Implying that we are incapable of critical thought. Implying that we don't take things as seriously as people who support men. It was insulting. What kind of response did you expect?
Naturally. No one questions his salary, just that he said last night that he's one of the poorest members of Congress. The blatant lying Guess we'll see if his salary took a major hit for 2015.
That's true now that I think about it. 174K is a lot but not like a LOT. I feel like 200K should be the average (or base pay)
Then again,in the private sector, your pay and job is strictly results-driven. Clearly, not the case with Congress. I guess it all balances out in the end, but it would be nice if being a Congress member was a more lucrative gig so our politicians would not be so dependent on begging rich folks for their money.
Gender affects everything. Everything. Her gender plays a large part in why a lot of people support her and it also plays a large part in why her detractors don't like her. Same with Bernie. And Obama. And Beyonce. And Kanye West. And literally every other public figure in the WORLD It affects the way we hear and interpret the things they say. It affects the way we view their motivation for things. That is a conversation worth having. A conversation not worth having is "Hillary supporters only support her because she's a woman!".
I did admit that. But a very small portion of her voters are. Just like a very small portion of democratic voters vote Sanders because he's a male. At worst it evens out
True.
On a slightly related note, one of my friends said they feel like Hillary would be a bad president because she's a woman
"I feel like a woman couldn't run the country" I was speechless.
I think Bernie's team may be gunning for VP. I think his ego is too far gone now to want to go back to the Senate in November. VP is a relatively harmless gig so I would not be surprised if she chooses him because God knows she needs the young vote in November, and placing him on her ticket is probably the best way to unite the party at this point. I also think Trump-Kasich will be the Repub ticket
How about you come in here and give off the impression that you want to be enlightened rather than playing victim when people come at you back. And it isn't just you. It's a number of people.
Guess we'll see if his salary took a major hit for 2015.
I guess it all balances out in the end, but it would be nice if being a Congress member was a more lucrative gig so our politicians would not be so dependent on begging rich folks for their money.