[NOW]

Originally posted by collin

The message, the timing. I'm assuming you know I mean #BLM and just everything in regards to black oppression. Also, the instrumentation, lyricism and themes throughout the album are incredibly intricate and beautifully executed. There are a lot of recurring patterns, it's an ALBUM. The flow is unmatched in the rap community. The use of random jazz instruments works very well. There is a lot about the album that makes it great and worthy of any and all praise.

I feel like Lupe was doing all of that on his music before Kendrick came around, correct?

Also, isn't Kanye's debut notable for shifting the hip-hop scene from gangsta rap to something else entirely different? He went up against the biggest rap artist of the millennium (50 Cent) and progressively ended him and his popularity by the time Graduation came out.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by collin

You're gonna need to stop trolling on this one before I pull out the race/ignorance card.

You're white, I'm a POC. You can't pull that card on me honey

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by collin

The message, the timing. I'm assuming you know I mean #BLM and just everything in regards to black oppression. Also, the instrumentation, lyricism and themes throughout the album are incredibly intricate and beautifully executed. There are a lot of recurring patterns, it's an ALBUM. The flow is unmatched in the rap community. The use of random jazz instruments works very well. There is a lot about the album that makes it great and worthy of any and all praise.

It may be good album, but I think importance is measured in future impact. 808s is an important album, not necessarily a high quality one.

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by rihannafan

But Beyonce is the Rihanna sound-alike, and saying that is not false at all.

No they have completey different sounds but they have the same target audience, just like taylor and katy.

Taylor's music was actually country pre 2012 and only went pop in 2014, katy's been pop rock until 2010 and went to bubblegum pop with traces of house & trap since.

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by conatus

To Pimp A Butterfly is better than any Kanye album.

that's a damn lie

[BabyCantYouSee]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

It may be good album, but I think importance is measured in future impact. 808s is an important album, not necessarily a high quality one.

Agreed. I think The College Dropout and MBDTF are also more important.

[ks_dollar]

Anyone know a good spotify playlist that is ideal for a 21st?

[Cap10Planet]

Kendrick's acclaim is deserved. Just because Drake is topping the charts but not getting nearly as much acclaim as Kendrick and Kendrick is now getting more acclaim than Kanye, doesn't mean his acclaim is undeserved.

And m.a.a.d city and Pimp are two of the best albums of the decade.

[collin]

Originally posted by ks_dollar

Anyone know a good spotify playlist that is ideal for a 21st?

http://open.spotify.com/user/co111n/...XDLoTt6VbMI6N7

[Cap10Planet]

And it's Kanye whom critics are scared to give anything lower than an A-grade simply because he says he's the best. No way in the world that tuneless drivel Yeezus would have gotten nearly as much acclaim had that been recorded by someone else.

Why would critics be scared to give Kendrick a low rating when he doesn't beg for it?

[collin]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

It may be good album, but I think importance is measured in future impact. 808s is an important album, not necessarily a high quality one.

What is important about 808s?
"He brought sad boy R&B into rap and influenced Drake!" is a very stupid answer.

[iHype.]

So you think this

Should be more acclaimed than this entire discography



It has nothing to do with success or me liking Drake. He honestly is just single handedly the most overrated artist today, and critics are literally petrified to not give him 5/5 stars because the bandwagon.

[Tom Vercetti]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

And it's Kanye whom critics are scared to give anything lower than an A-grade simply because he says he's the best. No way in the world that tuneless drivel Yeezus would have gotten nearly as much acclaim had that been recorded by someone else.

Why would critics be scared to give Kendrick a low rating when he doesn't beg for it?

They weren't really scared this time to give TLOP his 2nd lowest score. But in this case it makes a bit more sense since it was literally unfinished.

[Cap10Planet]

No, the most overrated rapper today is Drake. He doesn't write his own ****, his music is melancholic whiny BS and he's just overall a bland person, from the image to his monotone voice.

If Kendrick was that overrated, he would be everywhere. He is not.

[collin]

Critics aren't petrified. It's just that everything Kendrick does is unparalleled.
That's what critics look for. Bodies of work that accomplish things other people haven't tried.
Why do you think Bjork always soars to the top of critic lists?
Or random instrumental artists?

[Tom Vercetti]

If K.DOT is overrated then so is Kanye & Drake, though I like all three.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Tom Vercetti

They weren't really scared this time to give TLOP his 2nd lowest score. But in this case it makes a bit more sense since it was literally unfinished.

Lmao. That score went down after he stated "**** critics." That was like a mini-backlash, but most still suck his balls.

To be truthfully honest, Kanye hasn't been great since MBDTF and even that is overrated.

[iHype.]

I'm saying he's overrated in terms of acclaim, not chart success.

Answer.

You think untitled unmastered should be more acclaimed than ANY J. Cole, Beyonce, etc album?
Yet again, the ass was kissed over something that most people won't be playing more than 3 times.

[collin]

Originally posted by conatus

Prism is better.

No... no.

Originally posted by rihannafan

You're white, I'm a POC. You can't pull that card on me honey

That doesn't mean **** when you make blatantly ignorant comments.

[conatus]

Originally posted by Wicked

You deaf, love?

Am yet to be WOWED by a Kanye album. TPAB WOWED me.