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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Ashrock
If he is smart enough, he will backtrack right after he gets the nomination. There is no way for him to win in the purple states with his extreme views. He has the southern states anyway no matter what happens, why wouldn't he cater to moderate voters/independants ?
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No, his hick supporters will riot if he backtracks on immigration. They will vote third party or not vote at all. It's not just southern people, either. It's the white hicks throughout the country who blame Mexicans for everything that are supporting Trump.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Oh, and Ted Cruz wins Alaska! So 3 state wins for Cruz tonight.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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It is scary just thinking that Trump could actually become president.
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Member Since: 5/26/2012
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Originally posted by @michael
No, his hick supporters will riot if he backtracks on immigration. They will vote third party or not vote at all. It's not just southern people, either. It's the white hicks throughout the country who blame Mexicans for everything that are supporting Trump.
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They will have no choice but to vote for him, no matter what Trump will come up with next, they know Hillary will win hands down otherwise and they are the angriest people I know during the obama administration, no way they will just sit out in November for "another obama 2.0" era. As Trump himself said he could kill someone in Time Square he will still get their votes 
But anyway I don't think he will backtrack, he will just lead the Gop to one of its biggest humiliations during a general election.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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TBH Bernie should drop out after March 15.
He is set to lose huge delegate states like Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, and most importantly Florida. By staying in he is only hurting the democrats shot at the White House:
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Member Since: 3/3/2011
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Did Bernie outperform expectations?
Colorado and Minnesota were surprises for me; although Bernie has the advantage in caucuses + they have small AA populations.
Hillary's Massachusetts win bodes well for her.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Time for Rubio to drop out and endorse Cruz! 
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Still a lot of action this week for dems:
Saturday, Mar 5 (126)
Kansas caucus (37 delegates)
Louisiana (59 delegates)
Nebraska caucus (30 delegates)
Sunday, Mar 6 (30)
Maine caucus (30 delegates)
Tuesday, Mar 8 (205)
Democrats abroad (17 delegates)
Michigan (147 delegates)
Mississippi (41 delegates)
Saturday, Mar 12 (11)
Northern Mariana Islands (11 delegates)
Tuesday, Mar 15 (793)
Florida (246 delegates)
Illinois (182 delegates)
Missouri (84 delegates)
North Carolina (121 delegates)
Ohio (160 delegates)
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Radiance
Did Bernie outperform expectations?
Colorado and Minnesota were surprises for me; although Bernie has the advantage in caucuses + they have small AA populations.
Hillary's Massachusetts win bodes well for her.
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No, he underperformed. Everyone expected him to lose the southern states, but nobody expected him to lose by the large numbers that he lost. Bernie wanted to win 5 states, and he only won 4 (lost Massachusetts, which he desperately wanted).
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Member Since: 3/3/2011
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Originally posted by @michael
No, he underperformed. Everyone expected him to lose the southern states, but nobody expected him to lose by the large numbers that he lost. Bernie wanted to win 5 states, and he only won 4 (lost Massachusetts, which he desperately wanted).
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Colorado worries me; particularly since it is an important swing-state. Hopefully Hillary's loss there is just the consequence of poor caucus organisation (Bernie spent much more resources/time).
Massachussets is a massive win for Hillary. Small AA population. Definitely one Bernie had a big chance in. If Hillary can win that, she'll have it easier in other states with the biggest delegate hauls.
Unfortunately for Bernie, the states that fit his profile have low delegate totals.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by LP54
TBH Bernie should drop out after March 15.
He is set to lose huge delegate states like Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, and most importantly Florida. By staying in he is only hurting the democrats shot at the White House:
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how?
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by mos
how?
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The sooner that Hillary is the official nominee, the sooner that the Democrats can start general election warfare against the Republicans
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
Posts: 11,566
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Originally posted by Orpheus
Still a lot of action this week for dems:
Saturday, Mar 5 (126)
Kansas caucus (37 delegates)
Louisiana (59 delegates)
Nebraska caucus (30 delegates)
Sunday, Mar 6 (30)
Maine caucus (30 delegates)
Tuesday, Mar 8 (205)
Democrats abroad (17 delegates)
Michigan (147 delegates)
Mississippi (41 delegates)
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Basically, Bernie will get Kansas, Nebraska, and Maine. Clinton will get Michigan, Louisiana, and Mississippi. No wonder Clinton is slaying, those three states have 247 delegates available, while the three Bernie will win have a combined 97 delegates available.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Seriously we need to get out of the caucus business and a single day for primaries and a single day for elections. It's 2016 and our constitution needs an upgrade.
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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Originally posted by Adonis
Seriously we need to get out of the caucus business and a single day for primaries and a single day for elections. It's 2016 and our constitution needs an upgrade.
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******* terrible idea.
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Member Since: 3/3/2011
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Originally posted by MAKSIM
Basically, Bernie will get Kansas, Nebraska, and Maine. Clinton will get Michigan, Louisiana, and Mississippi. No wonder Clinton is slaying, those three states have 247 delegates available, while the three Bernie will win have a combined 97 delegates available.
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Feb 26 poll shows Hillary leading 33-23 in Kansas, so that may be in play. Maine and Nebraska probably comfortably Sanders though.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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If bernie ran independent, it would only split the democratic vote and ensure trumps victory
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
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Originally posted by Radiance
Feb 26 poll shows Hillary leading 33-23 in Kansas, so that may be in play. Maine and Nebraska probably comfortably Sanders though.
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Caucuses have been going for sanders so I wouldn't be surprised though. Plus I think she'll spend her campaign time focusing on Michigan and Florida.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by Wafflecakes
******* terrible idea.
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Everyone should have the same say in choosing a nominee. A few small states shouldn't be allowed to pick the choices for everyone. It's bad enough that we are stuck with the electoral college where a vote in a smaller state counts as more than a vote in a bigger state.
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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Originally posted by Adonis
Everyone should have the same say in choosing a nominee. A few small states shouldn't be allowed to pick the choices for everyone. It's bad enough that we are stuck with the electoral college where a vote in a smaller state counts as more than a vote in a bigger state.
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Sounds good, but is absurdly stupid when you break it down.
The fact that we start one state at a time is what allows underfunded or unknown candidates to be competitive because they CAN raise enough money to compete in Iowa and New Hampshire.
If we had a nationwide primary no one would ever have even heard of Sanders, Obama, or Bill Clinton.
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