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Celeb News: #OscarsSoWhite | Academy President responds
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
Oh shut up.
If you're in a minority and you know you deserve representation then start a movement with your OWN community.
Stop trying to inject yourself or hijack movements like Black Lives Matter, Black Girls Are Magic or Blackout and stop expecting black people to always fight for you when the only thing you do is sit and complain about black people. |
Criticizing a movement for its shortcomings and racism isn't the same as piggybacking. Aside from that.... no one is talking about those movements. We're talking about this one. Over the Oscars. Where the f***ing thread title was "No Black People nominated" as if all other races and minorities don't exist. Which is more problematic than the actual lineup.
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Originally posted by Repo
This is 100% an issue, but may I ask how that's the Oscar's fault?
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I don't think its the Oscars fault. But lets not act like the fact that there is no diversity within these nominations isn't representative of the overwhelming whiteness and discrimination of Hollywood. People here keep saying "stop complaining maybe there wasn't any good poc" but why is that? Because they aren't given any roles to display their talent. Because even roles that are written for asian/black/native american characters are given to white people. Of course people are upset about this because it shows how little progress Hollywood is making. There's something deeper going on and many people in this thread are brushing over it in order to try to be funny or complain about (most black) poc being angry over racism. They need to check their privilege.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
the only time they dont wanna complain about the nominees is when they find out no one black was nominated
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Because LGBT, Asians, Native Americans, Latinos, and other minorities don't actually exist! 
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Originally posted by JBJT2786
Michael B Jordan
Will Smith
F.Gray Gray
Idris freaking Elba and Beasts of No nation ( Arguably the best movie that didnt debut theatrically)
Tanguarine
and im talking nominations ( though i strongly think Beasts deserve the best pic Oscar)
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i dont follow movies much what are they in?
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Originally posted by Joey....
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tey all do kinda have the same face 
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Originally posted by KareBear
I don't think its the Oscars fault. But lets not act like the fact that there is no diversity within these nominations isn't representative of the overwhelming whiteness and discrimination of Hollywood. People here keep saying "stop complaining maybe there wasn't any good poc" but why is that? Because they aren't given any roles to display their talent. Because even roles that are written for asian/black/native american characters are given to white people. Of course people are upset about this because it shows how little progress Hollywood is making. There's something deeper going on and many people in this thread are brushing over it in order to try to be funny or complain about (most black) poc being angry over racism. They need to check their privilege.
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We're in complete agreement then. All I'm arguing is it's not the Oscars fault and we should be blaming racist casting directors for not giving PoCs a chance. I absolutely agree the all white noms is representative... just not of the Oscars. They can't nominate what's not cast (well, that and SOME people in this thread are selfish narcissistic racists who don't give a fig about other minorities as long as they come out ahead, many of whom have repeatedly demonized and stereotyped other minorities on this site. This obvi does not apply to all tho)
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Monsters have really shown their true colors lately. Disgusting. 
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Originally posted by Joey....
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Originally posted by KareBear
I don't think its the Oscars fault. But lets not act like the fact that there is no diversity within these nominations isn't representative of the overwhelming whiteness and discrimination of Hollywood. People here keep saying "stop complaining maybe there wasn't any good poc" but why is that? Because they aren't given any roles to display their talent. Because even roles that are written for asian/black/native american characters are given to white people. Of course people are upset about this because it shows how little progress Hollywood is making. There's something deeper going on and many people in this thread are brushing over it in order to try to be funny or complain about (most black) poc being angry over racism. They need to check their privilege.
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Originally posted by 2014
Can someone please name a few black actors/actresses who deserved to be nominated? Thanks.
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(dir) Ryan Coogler, Idris, Abraham Attah, Kitana Rodriguez. O'Shae Jackson, (dir) F. Gary Grey, MBJ
There actually are POC that deserve to be nominated. But the issue is white people are awarded for mediocre performances all the time. This past GG is proof of that. So you don't think about what they deserve because even when they don't deserve it, they get it. POC are snub all the time when it comes to awards and white people walk into a room thinking it's because they aren't deserving. No! The reason is because white Hollywood only awards black folks for roles they feel like they should play. And not for roles they are great in. That's the difference.
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Originally posted by I Am Music
It's like as if those emails didn't leak saying exactly what you said.
POC actors are not casted as much because studios doesn't feel they can carry a movie as a lead role.
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The fact that Marvel/Disney will be the first studio to throw heavy support for a black lead franchise (Black Panther) will be very telling when the receipts come out. Those emails are getting to me and now I'm worry the international support won't be there and it won't gross inline with Marvel's typical. I pray it does great internationally though. Black actors need this if we are to get big blockbuster films.
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Originally posted by PeggySue22
(dir) Ryan Coogler, Idris, Abraham Attah, Kitana Rodriguez. O'Shae Jackson, (dir) F. Gary Grey, MBJ
There actually are POC that deserve to be nominated. But the issue is white people are awarded for mediocre performances all the time. This past GG is proof of that. So you don't think about what they deserve because even when they don't deserve it, they get it. POC are snub all the time when it comes to awards and white people walk into a room thinking it's because they aren't deserving. No! The reason is because white Hollywood only awards black folks for roles they feel like they should play. And not for roles they are great in. That's the difference.
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How many of those had Oscar Buzz, which is mostly generated by media and word of mouth? The past GG is proof that nominations are glorified popularity contests
There is racism in Hollywood, but the issue isn't with the nominations system. Or at least it can't be CONFIRMED to be the issue. Fix casting first, it will most likely improve.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
The fact that Marvel/Disney will be the first studio to throw heavy support for a black lead franchise (Black Panther) will be very telling when the receipts come out. Those emails are getting to me and now I'm worry the international support won't be there and it won't gross inline with Marvel's typical. I pray it does great internationally though. Black actors need this if we are to get big blockbuster films.
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I don't see a lie. Even if it ends up being bad, I hope it succeeds due to how important it will be in affecting film future.
I once saw someone say that if a film/show featuring a female or minority (LGBT character, non-white actor, etc.) lead fails, then Hollywood says "Oh look! People won't watch Film Genre Z with Lead Y!" but if a film with a white, straight, cis male fails... then it's just a bad film and people are still here for them. It's very true (Look at female superheroes if you don't believe me)
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The Weeknd got nomination and he isn't white, so let's just not ok?
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Originally posted by PeggySue22
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The gurls acting shocked. The academy only awards black folks when they play villains, welfare queens, singers who grew up in the KKK era or slaves.
Thought y'all knew.
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At this point I'm over it.
Nothing is going to change anytime soon.
It's not like winning an Oscar helps you anyway if you're not what so it is what it is.
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Originally posted by HeavenMonster
The Weeknd got nomination and he isn't white, so let's just not ok?
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Good point.
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Originally posted by JBJT2786
Michael B Jordan
Will Smith
F.Gray Gray
Idris freaking Elba and Beasts of No nation ( Arguably the best movie that didnt debut theatrically)
Tanguarine
and im talking nominations ( though i strongly think Beasts deserve the best pic Oscar)
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You have to be kidding me???? 
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Originally posted by Eternium
I don't watch enough films to know who exactly was snubbed, but I will say that this is why it's important to go out and purposefully support minority-lead films. I hope everyone that complains about the Oscars being "so white" goes out of their way this week to support a non-white film.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
They can't nominate what is not there. This is 100% on studios not trusting black actors with major roles due to box office (specifically international box office). But I doubt they do major promo for black lead films internationally.
I would much rather we get excellence nominated instead of a so-so performance just to accommodate us. The only black actor who was snub was Idris. Ryan Coogler was also snub for directing Creed.
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I don't want a token nomination either. I want there to be many nominations because that's actually representative of Hollywood and the world in general. If there were no poc worthy of roles, fine. That means Hollywood needs to do a lot better
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Originally posted by Repo
How many of those had Oscar Buzz, which is mostly generated by media and word of mouth? The past GG is proof that nominations are glorified popularity contests
There is racism in Hollywood, but the issue isn't with the nominations system. Or at least it can't be CONFIRMED to be the issue. Fix casting first, it will most likely improve.
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BoNN had Oscar buzz, and so did Creed and SOC. Hell even Concussion had Oscar buzz and that movie was terrible.
And yes casting is the issue, but when you have white people saying it isn't an issue things don't get fixed.
Also, I'm not gong to defer the blame from black folks. It's time that we stop agreeing to play slaves. Until we demand more respected, multidimensional roles they won't give them to us.
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Originally posted by Repo
I don't see a lie. Even if it ends up being bad, I hope it succeeds due to how important it will be in affecting film future.
I once saw someone say that if a film/show featuring a female or minority (LGBT character, non-white actor, etc.) lead fails, then Hollywood says "Oh look! People won't watch Film Genre Z with Lead Y!" but if a film with a white, straight, cis male fails... then it's just a bad film and people are still here for them. It's very true (Look at female superheroes if you don't believe me)
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There is also Cyborg coming out as well, so WB will be the second. But these blockbusters have to be in line with the white lead films for every minority to be look at as bankable.
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