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Celeb News: Normani and Ally shade Camila. Again.
Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by moonlight.
Ally is gonna be the Beyonce of the group, bookmark me. The member that always releases last and puts the group first always ends up succeeding the most.
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Yes, because of all the varying factors, the order of their solo releases is the one that made Beyonce a success. 
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Originally posted by GabeEd
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SCREAMING 
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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it really does come off as petty jealousy. and they're being hypocrites about it because they all know they'd jump at the chance to go solo if the opportunity was given to them.
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Member Since: 6/6/2011
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Lol this isn't shade. You all doing the most.
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Member Since: 3/19/2011
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Originally posted by dangerouslush
They see Camila all the time, they know what she's up to. They can't just tell Tori they're excited for her...plus, doing that helps them get more Tori fans...this is just good PR on both girls parts. This isn't shade, but nice try.
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That's what I was thinking like wouldn't they talk to her on the phone or via txt before her performance?
That video was tense tho 🐸☕
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Why does Normani get blamed for almost everything involving Camila and hate? Any unbiased 5H fan (or anyone with eyes and knowledge of actual shade) knows Normani has only seriously and intentionally shaded Camila once and it was in an interview about her bday. Other than that, it's literally grasping at straws (Normani looking off in the distance when others talk as though she hasn't done that forever now even during X-Factor and the other girls do it too, Normani cropping a photo to just show herself or more focus of herself even though the other girls do it too, etc.). Normani literally could tweet a dot after Camila tweets and everyone perceives it as shade. Not everyday Normani's tweets and life revolves around Camila. She's even stopped tweeting as much yet the same "drama" is sparking on twitter and these forums.
I'm starting to think something else very stereotype-y is going on with these threads and convos surrounding Normani but lemme not go there. Regardles, I think the "drama" is being highly fueled by the fans more than what's actually going on bts. The girls seem to have a super respectful and functioning relationship and aren't punching each other in the head bts...but the fans would want that so the group can break up and their respective fave can go solo. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by geddymonster
The girls posted a picture recently in the studio with Camila absent. Camila may have been there to record her parts, which I guess is all she technically needs to be there for, but it completely throws off the group dynamic to have four of the girls recording all of their parts together while the fifth records her parts individually because she has a solo project to promote while the other girls are recording. And did Camila's vocals just magically appear on the track? She could have simply written the song with her friend and left it at that. But she went to a studio, recorded vocals for it, filmed a video for it, has promoted, etc. She could have easily turned down any offer she received from Shawn and/or his label to lend vocals on the track. Another female artist who doesn't have group commitments could have been used, Camila still would have received her royalty checks, and it would have helped establish her as a songwriter without hurting the group dynamic.
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This 100%. I don't understand how some people aren't getting it.
The girls clearly weren't happy about this duet, but she did it anyway. That's throwing off the group dynamic and cohesion as it is. Not to mention, more attention is going to Camila now rather than anyone else in the group....I remember seeing iheartRadio and some other radio station tweeting Camila and 5H separately in the same tweet, or saying "Camila and the girls"....it's pretty clearly not a good idea for a group. Other side projects that are not music related are completely different, because it isn't in the same exact industry.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
Well, considering she has only one solo song, if people want to hear more Camilla Cabello they're kinda forced to listen to 5H. You guys are acting as if she committed some act of treason, it's clear if any of the other girls got this opportunity then they would have gone for it.
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that's smart 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by geddymonster
Ugh. I'm done here. When it comes to a girl group, consisting of actual people, you can't look at everything from a legal, cut-and-dry standpoint. Yeah, Camila doesn't have to be there, but she should want to be there with her group mates listening to them record and joining them in the studio process. Based on what you're saying, you could just have five girls who record all of their material separately and only see each other when they have to for performances, videos, etc. But we all know girl groups don't work that way.
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Some of them just aren't going to get it, and it's kind of baffling.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by inspiration4
PUNCH.
(...add "jealous" to "childish" and "unprofessional" though)
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I think "childish" and "unprofessional" are words that describe recording a duet when you KNOW your group, who is where your loyalty is, aren't happy about it, thus causing tension in the group. That's unless of course, she just didn't tell them, because she knew they wouldn't be happy.
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
I think "childish" and "unprofessional" are words that describe recording a duet when you KNOW your group, who is where your loyalty is, aren't happy about it, thus causing tension in the group. That's unless of course, she just didn't tell them, because she knew they wouldn't be happy.
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You've basically been posting as if it was confirmed they didn't want her to do this from the start, only to reveal that it's purely your own speculation. Mess.
But more important than that, and what you refuse to accept, is that people are responsible for their own emotions. Point blank. Even if they didn't want her to do it, she shouldn't be basing important life decisions on their comfort level. If they choose to be bitter, than let them revel in salt. They could have just as easily chose to support her, and be happy for the opportunity they're all living out.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Idk anything about this group but I need Camilla to break away from that Normani girl. How toxic
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Member Since: 2/8/2012
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I actually can't stand Normani anymore. 
Y'all dummies can keep pretending that she is loyal to the group but if she actually had the connections that Camila evidently does she'd claw her way to solo success.
And don't get me started with you people pretending the other four are in the studio doing work all the while Camila is uninvolved. Can you "fans" find the follow button on Twitter or is that too involved a task for you? These girls have all been on holiday for weeks. Dinah has all kinds of family pictures and tweets up. Ally was at the same ****ing concert I was at a couple weeks ago. Camila's promo schedule for this single has not interfered with any significant amount of studio time. Quit LYING.
But let's be real. I can keep defending Camila but at end of the day they're all petty and immature. As it stands, they deserve NO further success and I'm lowkey waiting for them to be forgotten. They need to be HUMBLED. This is coming from someone who rooted for them back on XFUSA S1 and has followed them for years. It's a lost cause to even consider stanning for these nitwits. I'm glad we got Reflection, but man, it's a chore caring for them now.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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I've only heard one fifth harmony song and I can't even point out which one is Camilla, but I'd kii to heaven and back if this solo project does well
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Member Since: 6/6/2011
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Originally posted by Parks
I actually can't stand Normani anymore.
Y'all dummies can keep pretending that she is loyal to the group but if she actually had the connections that Camila evidently does she'd claw her way to solo success.
And don't get me started with you people pretending the other four are in the studio doing work all the while Camila is uninvolved. Can you "fans" find the follow button on Twitter or is that too involved a task for you? These girls have all been on holiday for weeks. Dinah has all kinds of family pictures and tweets up. Ally was at the same ****ing concert I was at a couple weeks ago. Camila's promo schedule for this single has not interfered with any significant amount of studio time. Quit LYING.
But let's be real. I can keep defending Camila but at end of the day they're all petty and immature. As it stands, they deserve NO further success and I'm lowkey waiting for them to be forgotten. They need to be HUMBLED. This is coming from someone who rooted for them back on XFUSA S1 and has followed them for years. It's a lost cause to even consider stanning for these nitwits. I'm glad we got Reflection, but man, it's a chore caring for them now. |
Lol stop pretending you even like them. "Been rooting for them for years", yeah we believe you,kpop fan.
Keep waiting for them to be forgotten, fatty.
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Member Since: 2/8/2012
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Originally posted by I'mRihannaFan
Lol stop pretending you even like them. "Been rooting for them for years", yeah we believe you,kpop fan.
Keep waiting for them to be forgotten, fatty.
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KPop fans and 5H fans aren't mutually exclusive. 
I'm aware of the f(x) vs. 5H thing that happened a couple months back but y'all fools need to accept that fact that functioning adults have brains that can go beyond stan wars.
But who are you to tell ME what I've been doing? I don't know you. These girls have been self-sabotaging for months. It's annoying to see potential wasted. 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Yikes, they have every right to be upset. As others mentioned: at least Beyoncé waited until DC was on a hiatus. Even ****ing One Direction could wait. So what makes Camilla so special? This group needs to establish themselves before any of them can breakout solo. At this point, they'll all flop. Look at how 'well' IKWYDLS did! And fff; at least Normani isn't playing a fake bitch and is blunt about her feelings about this.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by shelven
Ally genuinely is friends with Tori, so even if she did choose to tweet it as some sort of subtle acknowledgement that she won't be watching Camila (and honestly I don't really think she did), I wouldn't go so far as to consider her tweet "shade".
Mani's tweet on the other hand...  Besides Camila, she would be the quickest out of all of the girls to jump at a solo opportunity, so this is really hypocritical of her. |
It's understandable that they're upset; there's no rule that says band members have to like each other but they can atleast main some proffesionalism on social media. If fans are clever enough to pick up on this so can the media. These girls need to take a page out of Girls Aloud's book.
You're right, Mani and Camila are cut from the same cloth. Mani's just more subtle about it and she's very calculative just like Camila. They're a lot more alike than people like to admit - that's not exactly a bad thing, because both of them will go far and are likely to be the ones with careers after 5H.
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Originally posted by shelven
I never said Camila was doing a "huge favour" to the group with this. You and a lot of other people seem to have this idea that if I see some sort of upside to this project, it must automatically mean I see no wrong in Camila. I think Camila was wrong to release this song and I wish she hadn't done it - there, I bolded it so you and anybody else skimming this post can see for sure. My point is that this one song which, despite the co-lead credit, is mostly considered to be a Shawn Mendes song featuring a girl from Fifth Harmony shouldn't be considered some massive permanent betrayal to the group that warrants the rest of the group to immediately cut their relationship with her and start making petty comments about wanting to pursue their own solo careers soon too. The fact that the other four girls clearly can't see the potential benefit that this song can indirectly bring to 5H means that they too care about themselves as individuals and how much attention they get, even if they're not as open about that as Camila is.
Is Camila at fault here? YES. But is she the only one at fault here? NO. If 5H breaks up over this, it will be on all five of them, not just Camila. THAT's my opinion on this, and that's the last I'm going to comment on this topic since this discussion keeps going in circles.
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All of this. Plus Epic allowed this whole duet, if anything the girls should be taking their frustrations out on management.
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Originally posted by Javan
You're missing the point here. It's not only jealousy that's a problem. It's respect and professionalism . They all signed up to this ensemble group, with no lead singer, all member created equal. The group must come first at all times, especially when you're not even a success yet. I'm sure they all want a solo career at some point in their life, but at this very moment they group can not succeed if the members behave as if it's a free for all. Camilla doing one solo project may not destroy the group, but if everyone did solo projects the group would not work. It can't be one rule for Camilla and another for the other girls. They know this, that's why Camilla should have practiced some self-restraint and declined the offer. Everyone else is being loyal except for her.
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Again, where is the professionalism from the others? Mani has tried to keep it professional by keeping off twitter and maybe it's a reach saying this is some sort of shade. However, Ally has been pressed from the moment this was announced; I knew this was the case when her built-like-a-box sister in-law started shading Camila during the summer.
It is obvious that if this group splits up Ally has the most to lose, so I understand why she's taken this the most personally.. Even if they go on a hiatus after #5H2 (provided they release another 3/4 singles this era) they will have been together for almost four years; that's a lot longer than most girl groups. There's room to come back and be successful so long as they all keep it professional. Just look at Girls Aloud - most of them hated each other, but they were together for ten years.
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Originally posted by B'Day
Yikes, they have every right to be upset. As others mentioned: at least Beyoncé waited until DC was on a hiatus. Even ****ing One Direction could wait. So what makes Camilla so special? This group needs to establish themselves before any of them can breakout solo. At this point, they'll all flop. Look at how 'well' IKWYDLS did! And fff; at least Normani isn't playing a fake bitch and is blunt about her feelings about this. |
What?  It's currently #8 on iTunes and had the third biggest spincrease on Pop yesterday, I wouldn't exactly say it's flopping. Interestingly enough it's so far matched all of 5H's singles on radio and BBH100 minus WI.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
I don't know about Ally but it's blatantly obvious Normani has an issue with Camila. She needs to stop. |
Can somone explain how a tweet of a frog and a tea make Normani the shadier one? Sorry, I really don't know 
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