[TheEdgeOfGaga]

Been feeling a bit nostalgic tonight, and one of my favourite memories is dancing around my first boyfriend's bedroom with him to Teenage Dream when I was 17. That song will always have a special place in my heart.

[Aurora]

I had a dream that It Takes Two was randomly pushed as a single.

Roar being Top 150. What kind of modern classic? Hopefully its streams will eventually catch up to DH.

Honestly, her game deserved to flop. I hope she learns from this whole EDIAH/KPPop mess and stops splitting her time and focus between all of these little things that nobody asks for and just concentrates on delivering the good music. That was Gaga's problem with Artpop (too many distractions from the music) and I don't want Katy going down that path.

[SeanET]

Roar #147 & E.T. higher than Firework

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Sam 

I had a dream that It Takes Two was randomly pushed as a single.

Roar being Top 150. What kind of modern classic? Hopefully its streams will eventually catch up to DH.

Honestly, her game deserved to flop. I hope she learns from this whole EDIAH/KPPop mess and stops splitting her time and focus between all of these little things that nobody asks for and just concentrates on delivering the good music. That was Gaga's problem with Artpop (too many distractions from the music) and I don't want Katy going down that path.

this tea. She really should be spending time perfecting her craft because she hasn't had a single album that held up from beginning to end.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by TheEdgeOfGaga

Been feeling a bit nostalgic tonight, and one of my favourite memories is dancing around my first boyfriend's bedroom with him to Teenage Dream when I was 17. That song will always have a special place in my heart.

I remember going on a cruise in Europe in 2011. I was by myself, walking by the gift shop and no one was there except for all the employees. They were blasting Teenage Dream and singing at the top of their lungs, thinking no guests were there. It was kinda magical. Global Queen.

[Lord Blackout]

bs. How much time does she really need to spend on that app? The problem is that even teenage girls want nothing to do with her in Q4 2015. She thought people ate up her cutesy crap so she made a video game full of it and no one wanted IT. If she has the power to make good music, she's got plenty of time to do so. Her imagery drove people away like I predicted

[katykater]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Nn her game bombed hard

I'm not surprised though. The whole purpose of the app is to be something you want to be. And who wants to be an over the hill delusional popstar? People would rather be the relevant gorgeous goddess Kim Kardashian West with the great sense of style, the through the roof relevance, and the cute family. Poor AlexKatycat

What did you expect when the first thing we as stans or the reviews mentioned was the crashes, long loading times and data consumption. It was presented in Google Play to anyone wanting to download it as some kind of malware that will kill your phone.

[TheEdgeOfGaga]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

I remember going on a cruise in Europe in 2011. I was by myself, walking by the gift shop and no one was there except for all the employees. They were blasting Teenage Dream and singing at the top of their lungs, thinking no guests were there. It was kinda magical. Global Queen.

Teenage Dream her power

[TKO]

Yesterday i was at my friend's party and he played Last Friday Night (he's an AC/DC stan) , her power

[Aurora]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

bs. How much time does she really need to spend on that app? The problem is that even teenage girls want nothing to do with her in Q4 2015. She thought people ate up her cutesy crap so she made a video game full of it and no one wanted IT. If she has the power to make good music, she's got plenty of time to do so. Her imagery drove people away like I predicted

Have you even played the app? She has so many voice overs and video messages, it's insane.

Instead of spending time on Katy Perry Pop promo, H&M promo, Mad Potion promo, Covergirl promo etc. she should be getting vocal lessons, working with a choreographer, having the occasional getaway to get some inspiration and writing, writing, writing anything that comes to mind. Then she can book some studio time with a mix of proven producers (Greg Kurstin, Benny Blanco, Max Martin etc.) and also some new ones and see if anything sticks. I'd love her to get back in touch with Bonnie and of course Sarah too, they bring out the best in one another.

But all of these endorsements aren't cute, these are the kind of things you want to see mid-era, amongst album promo, not while we're waiting on new music.

[SeanET]

me when other kats talk about the app

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

She's forgetting that unlike Kim and some other stars, she always built her core fanbase and fame around one thing only: her music, not unlike P!nk. Really, when it comes down to it no one cares about her endorsements and commercial products.

If her music isn't top notch her career won't be sustainable. End of. Sam is right

[Aurora]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

She's forgetting that unlike Kim and some other stars, she always built her core fanbase and fame around one thing only: her music, not unlike P!nk. Really, when it comes down to it no one cares about her endorsements and commercial products.

If her music isn't top notch her career won't be sustainable. End of. Sam is right

All of this.

I get that she wants to stay relevant (without being overexposed) but she's going about it in all of the wrong ways, I think. The game was a misstep. H&M was unnecessary, they should have gotten someone like Meghan Trainor or Kelly Clarkson to do that. Little things like Covergirl are fine though.

Plus last I knew she was still doing private shows. She can't have much time to write and record in between all of that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't plan on starting work on the next album until the new year.

[TheEdgeOfGaga]

Didn't her manager say that she would be begin writing in the fall? Hope that's still the case, there hasn't been any news or any teasing by her at all.

[Aurora]

It's interesting what you can learn about the music industry circles from registered songs. Sarah Hudson (Dark Horse) has been working with Julia Michaels and Justin Tranter (Good For You/Selena, Sorry/Justin) a bit lately. It'll be interesting to see if that translates to Katy's album.

[Retro]

I'm sure she's been working on something lately - it might be more of a down-low sort of thing, but I'm also rather certain she'll kick it into high gear with the next album when January rolls around.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by TheEdgeOfGaga

Didn't her manager say that she would be begin writing in the fall? Hope that's still the case, there hasn't been any news or any teasing by her at all.

Originally posted by Retro

I'm sure she's been working on something lately - it might be more of a down-low sort of thing, but I'm also rather certain she'll kick it into high gear with the next album when January rolls around.

I had to double check I wasn't in the Gaga base.

Let's hope you're both right.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Retro

I'm sure she's been working on something lately - it might be more of a down-low sort of thing, but I'm also rather certain she'll kick it into high gear with the next album when January rolls around.

Yeah. She's already alluded to her next era, even mentioning "trap house". I'm sure she's started something.

I really want her to work with new people. Not here for Luke and Team doing 60% of the album again. One or two is fine, but she really needs to diversify.

and omg yes @ working with vocal coach and choreo (where's Boomkack when you need ha). She's really good at making bops in the studio, but she always treats her performing skills as a huge afterthought when it's one of the most essential parts of being a pop star.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Sam 

I had to double check I wasn't in the Gaga base.

Let's hope you're both right.

I'm every icon.

Maybe I should bring back my flawless Killer Queen avi.

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Yeah. She's already alluded to her next era, even mentioning "trap house". I'm sure she's started something.

I really want her to work with new people. Not here for Luke and Team doing 60% of the album again. One or two is fine, but she really needs to diversify.

As long as she keeps Max and Bonnie, I'm not sure I care if Luke is involved at all or to any great extent. He's become more dated as an artist than I think the other two have, and they can bring the classic Teenage Dream/LFN/Birthday sound to some of the songs without him.

As far as new partners, I'm really hoping she looks to some of the people who are currently doing both pop and R&B work - maybe even get a song written by Tinashe for the record, for example. I think that the darker themes and more interesting production we got from ET and Dark Horse are where she needs to go both artistically and commercially. I mean, there's a reason ET was her biggest US hit next to Firework pre-Roar, and DH was again her biggest (or one of).

I also really like the direction she took with WoA. Wouldn't mind more of that!

[Aurora]

Max and Bonnie have definitely evolved and experimented more in the last couple of years. Luke has in his own way, but it's not as obvious. Most of his productions have some similarities or common thread.

I really want her to work with Tommy Tysper, too.