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TV Show: Scream Queens | #RenewalNewsSOON | #Pray4Chanel | #Over
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Also it would have been miles better if Hester wasn't officially revealed at the beginning of the damn episode  they didn't give any other big moments the entire episode, which would have made it ok to reveal at the beginning...but we were left kinda bored, waiting for something big to happen...and it never did.
They could have had Hester's long monologue take place after Cathy confronted her, and before the "let's forget about it"
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The way it was all the sudden, Hi it's me Hester. Then the monologue happening in her head because they need time for the long ass blaming scene that's about to happen afterwards
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Originally posted by Repo
That's the genius of the finale. It completely flipped this show on it's head and deconstructed it in the most ingenious way possible. This selfish, self-abosrbed, vapid rich girl who gets away with whatever she wants FINALLY gets her comeuppance because she gets so narcissistic, haughty, and big headed that she quite literally creates her own downfall.
The show took a character it had been glorifying and toying with redemption all season (despite clearly being a monster) and completely flips these notions, that the audience was backing, on their heads and shows laser guided karma striking her and her followers, with a clear message of "DO NOT be a Chanel" (something some fans definitely need to hear)
Of course not, but that was hilarious and there was a point to be made.
As said above, the genius of the finale is it flips this notion of "Look at me! I'm rich! I'm hot! I'm popular! Everything WILL work out for me, I can be as evil and malicious and cruel as I want because it just DOES NOT matter at ALL." on it's head and shows that, no, you can't do that. It will catch up to you, no one will be there to back you (the Chanels could have quite easily overcome Hester's lies if they'd stood up for one another, but instead each Chanel was content to watch the others fall to save her own skin), and everyone will be there to cheer as you go al the way down. As said, it completely flips this show on it's head in the most ingenious way possible
If you'd prefer her to have gotten lethal injection, that's fine. I'm okay with her being stuck in an Asylum for life  |
But all of this is literally my point. It's the most typical thing ever, especially in the teen genre a la Mean Girls, for the rotten apples to sort of "get what's coming to them" because "they can't do that."
Turning that on its head and showing that sometimes you just can do that, having Chanel walk out of the court house with one last great walking scene and monologue, would have been much more interesting.
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Remember Ryan saying the killer reveal was gonna have the mask taken off. And instead we get Hester saying "Hi. It's me. I framed the Chanels. I win."
Lazy. Tragic. Boring. Anticlimactic. It felt unreal.
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the minute i saw ''january, 2016'' i knew it was going to be a disappointment.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Hester being the killer wasn't what made the finale horrible. It was horrible because they destroyed ever character after a season of building them up. None of them got any sort of redemption. The whole "every one is happy la la" was so patronizing and vapid. Why did they build up Chanel and Zayday to have a friendship, why build up Hester's obsession with Chanel to just ignore it. They didn't even do anything with Grace finding out who her sister is 
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Started the episode with Hester accusing #5 and then following it up to the scene where Hester comes back and frames all the other Chanel's. With them gone she now has a chance to get her revenge for her mother.
She could have gone after The Dean and Wes killing them both. Avenging them for what they did to her.
Gone after Grace and had that confrontation between sister and sister. Meanwhile since more people are dying the Chanel's could have obviously been seen to not have been the killers and released while Denise and Zayday work to figure out who it is.
During this Hester can explain how she did it as she kills them.
The Chanel's come back, Hester kills Chad and then we have a final confrontation with Chanel and Hester. Since the ENTIRE season they've been buiding their tension up.
The Chanel's survive as do Zayday and Denise.
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Woooo the unmasking not happening
Us getting the final unmasking with a random pizza dude (though it was funny)
If that's not enough insult to us Hester had to put the blame to Number 3!
Someone make a gif of Chanel screaming to the Judge please! That's me during the entire episode 13
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Originally posted by Chanel.
But all of this is literally my point. It's the most typical thing ever, especially in the teen genre a la Mean Girls, for the rotten apples to sort of "get what's coming to them" because "they can't do that."
Turning that on its head and showing that sometimes you just can do that, having Chanel walk out of the court house with one last great walking scene and monologue, would have been much more interesting.
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The difference is Mean Girls was criticizing that all film (and, ironically, the Plastics actually got off pretty easily), whereas Scream Queens was idolizing and glorifying the Chanels all season, much like it's fanbase. The point of that finale was to pull the rug out on the people glorifying the Chanels and wanting to be the Chanels and saying "No, you REALLY don't." Mean Girls has a massive misaimed fandom, the point of Scream Queens was to bait t hat misaimed fandom and then say "Now look what actually being a Chanel would cause."
Disagreed on them walking out being better, at least in the context of this show. It would be one thing if these girls had been season antagonists (instead of protagonists), but having the evil bitch protagonist win just to have the evil bitch protagonist win (since it's different), isn't really enough for me to back that as it basically glorifies everything bad about the Chanels. After 12 episodes of these girls being so vapid and cruel, seeing them get a comeuppance was so necessary. Letting them get away would be like letting Joffrey get off scot free on Game of Thrones
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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What's with this whole "Chanel's are horrible they deserved it" mess. Did no one see their family life? The way their mothers treated them? #5's parents gave their daughter up for murder cause they didn't like her. Of course these girls are mean and nasty they had horrible upbringings.
Just cause Hester was in asylum doesn't give her some Saint get out of jail card. Pete murdered people for really no reason. The Dean was equally as horrible. Like y'all 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I actually loved this finale. It was pretty hilarious. Chanels seem happy, but I hope that story is explained in season 2 and not a cliff hanger.
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It's so weak that Hester did not even had a scene with Boone. Or a single suspicious scene at all aside that she's transparently crazy. Clues, my ass. I would be perfectly okay with Number 5
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What's with this whole "Chanel's are horrible they deserved it" mess. Did no one see their family life? The way their mothers treated them? #5's parents gave their daughter up for murder cause they didn't like her. Of course these girls are mean and nasty they had horrible upbringings.
Just cause Hester was in asylum doesn't give her some Saint get out of jail card. Pete murdered people for really no reason. The Dean was equally as horrible. Like y'all |
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I can't stress this enough
Hester is no different. I don't see how she deserves to get away with it and The Chanel's didn't. The Chanel's had an awful life and childhood looking past the glamorous clothes. Money is indeed no object.
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Just watched and......
YUCK!
I can't believe they went with boring predictable Hester 
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Originally posted by DripDrip
What's with this whole "Chanel's are horrible they deserved it" mess. Did no one see their family life? The way their mothers treated them? #5's parents gave their daughter up for murder cause they didn't like her. Of course these girls are mean and nasty they had horrible upbringings.
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Plenty of people have awful upbringings without turning into cruel bullies and attempted murderers. And I'm not saying it's not understandable, I'm saying it's not justified.
As for people hating the Chanels more than Hester, we had TWELVE EPISODES dedicated to the Chanels getting away with absolutely everything and being shallow, vapid, and petty with zero karmic retributions. It makes sense that audience members would hate them and want them to get karma more than the red devil with how much this show pushed their vapid, self-absorbed nature. They were complete hatesinks
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Just cause Hester was in asylum doesn't give her some Saint get out of jail card. Pete murdered people for really no reason. The Dean was equally as horrible. Like y'all
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No one has ever said either one of them isn't an awful person. The finale was going after everyone, even Grace and Zayday. But it's a lot easier to hate the spoiled, vapid rich bitch who never suffers consequences for anything she does.
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The only suspicious scene of Hester was last episode when she was looking around at the mall for the devil
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Originally posted by Repo
The difference is Mean Girls was criticizing that all film (and, ironically, the Plastics actually got off pretty easily), whereas Scream Queens was idolizing and glorifying the Chanels all season, much like it's fanbase. The point of that finale was to pull the rug out on the people glorifying the Chanels and wanting to be the Chanels and saying "No, you REALLY don't." Mean Girls has a massive misaimed fandom, the point of Scream Queens was to bait t hat misaimed fandom and then say "Now look what actually being a Chanel would cause."
Disagreed on them walking out being better, at least in the context of this show. It would be one thing if these girls had been season antagonists (instead of protagonists), but having the evil bitch protagonist win just to have the evil bitch protagonist win (since it's different), isn't really enough for me to back that as it basically glorifies everything bad about the Chanels. After 12 episodes of these girls being so vapid and cruel, seeing them get a comeuppance was so necessary. Letting them get away would be like letting Joffrey get off scot free on Game of Thrones
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But the way they were finally dealt with was a basic little scribble on a jury card that wouldn't have made it in real life - hell, the objection before the verdict was out of character for Chanel anyway. She would have bitched them out after (regardless of verdict).
Sometimes in life, the good girls lose to the evil psychopath. That's reality - if the finale were written properly, that probably would have been true in Kappa land as well. I want someone to show that for once. I want the "villain" or anti-hero or what have you to win because that's the way the world does just work sometimes, and it would have been far more satisfying to see that.
And I don't think Hester living and getting off free is a good example of that because she and her story and everything are convoluted as all hell and she's only a psycho/villain because of the circumstances of her upbringing, so I wanted Chanel to have that victory.
Also, can we talk about how Dean Munsch would have - if her character stayed consistent between the rest of the season and the final episode - probably actually turned Hester in even at the risk of her own career? She was a self-serving witch, but she did have a sliver of good and conscientiousness in her.
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How are some of yall saying that the Chanels got what was coming to them and lost when they didnt do **** but be bitches and plot to murder (which EVERYONE did) Hester literally killed AND was being a bitch WITH the chanels and got away with it all.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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When Hester's "parents" walked in I thought they were gonna be #5's parents and she stole them from her I wish that happened tbh
But what about Hester saying her mom made her kiss her dads body at his funeral and she's been obsessed with death ever since? What a mess. Everything about ha is a lie
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Turning that on its head and showing that sometimes you just can do that, having Chanel walk out of the court house with one last great walking scene and monologue, would have been much more interesting.
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Hell no.
I don't get why you like Chanel so much. Is it just because she's pretty? Like... What the hell can you like about her? Sure, it's funny when you watch a show, but you writing essays about her every now and then is a bit... Weird.
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C/H/A/N/E/L's clockings are absolutely right because not only i feel insulted, I felt personally attacked.
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When stanning goes too far
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