[Repo]

Originally posted by Tylerbv

+ It's not even slightly believable that they would not have done a DNA test to check who's Hester's real parents were, or check if #5 was actually adopted, OR check if #3 was actually mentally ill. Like does no one fact check this ****? Lazy ass jury.

Also, the jury needs to be unanimous. One lady getting offended at being called a HIPPO can't change the whole jury's minds. FIX IT RYAN.

Are we calling for realism on THIS show? really? And they didn't fall for any of it, thus "Not guilty." Chanel shouldve kept quiet.

[LP54]

Originally posted by Josh

Why does Ryan abandon shows after the pilot? He always did this with AHS. But Hotel is the only one hes staying on

AHS right now is worse than Scream Queen imo. Scream Queen had a terrible finale but was great overall. Hotel is all over the damn place.

[That Bad Eartha]

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

Ryan has been saying there were only 13 episodes for a while. It was originally issued 15, then after they aired the first two, it was cut to 13. This was the full season order. I highly doubt they were going to go for 22 with this being the mid-season finale. This is it. This was always going to be it. They were just gonna change the ending. It's obvious.

I don't think he started saying that until after it premiered honestly. Which was likely just to save face. And I'm sure he was prepared for the possibility of more episodes.

This show has never presented itself in a less-is-more kind of way, so I just believe that he might have had some expectations of it being a conventional full season.

These are responses to other posts I'm too lazy to quote:

• Empire only had 12 its first season because it was a midseason replacement. The second season has 18 because they don't want to beat it to death to destroy the hype (basically FOX is just trying a different marketing strategy).
• The Following only has 13-15 a season because it was also a midseason replacement and not a huge success.
• How To Get Away With Murder has shorter seasons to accommodate Viola Davis' movie career.
• And Quantico is a ratings hit so it has been given a full 22 episode order.

I'm not trying to be a know it all, but all of these shows had specific reasons why they were shorter and I'm just coming from this with a knowledge of how network television works. Scream Queens had the flexibility to kill off any main cast members who couldn't stick around for a full 22 episodes and premiered in the fall and it had a big promo train behind it. If it had been a bigger hit, it probably would have gotten at least a few extra episodes ordered if not quite 22 just so FOX could keep it for a bit in the spring.

[jgorny]

I am writing a missive to end all missives. Stay tuned for that. I will post that soon.

[cypriotpcdfan]

Originally posted by ₳NTi Phenex

Listen up you pathetic maggot ridden Tim Gunn rip-off. You LITERALLY had every chance in the world to make this series and finale GREAT. Dorkus was amazing, yet not quite sure why you decided to let the local crackhead that got kicked out of Lana Del Rey's garage write this horrid tragedy. I've seen episodes of Bubble Guppies with more surprising twists than what I was just forced to watch. Did you really think this was acceptable to air on Television. I mean I realize you let Glee air for 6 seasons but this is crossing lines even for you Ryan.

AND BRAD you hippy looking home wrecker. I EXPECT this type of rotting ******** from the Liz Taylor reject, but YOU!? You're the one thats supposed to sit there like an Angel on the old queen's shoulder and say, "No Ryan, we can't possibly air this or let this be the end, let's do it this way." But what the **** did you do? You let this trash become real. Perhaps Gwenyth's smelly old clam was too distracting for you, or maybe you were too busy begging for recognition because no one realizes that anyone other than Ryan ever worked on your numerous shows together, I'm not exactly sure. But please go back home, look yourself in the mirror and then go watch this episode. If you have any other reaction then wanting to slice your throat open with a DVD copy of The New Normal, (If such a thing exists), then please do the latter.

Now that I've wasted 5 minutes writing this, I'm going to go pop open some vodka and bleach to attempt to scrub my memory and EYES of that optical assault I just witnessed.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Why is everyone saying we're fuming because Grace was not the killer? I DONT EVEN CARE WHO THE KILLER IS. HE MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT BACK #2 AS THE KILLER AND I WOULD ACCEPT IT, HAD THIS EPISODE BEEN AT LEAST DECENT.

[tigerlily13]

Come on girls. SPEAK YOUR MIND.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4381332/?ref_=tt_eps_rhs_0

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

You're literally DELUSIONAL to think the show was originally going to end this way.

Like, what the ****? It flies in the face of EVERYTHING this show has been before, and doesn't even follow THE BASIC RULES of what Ryan set up for it.

The ending is an OBVIOUS cop-out because there is no second season. There's literally no explanation.

God.

[Tylerbv]

Originally posted by ₳NTi Phenex

I'll SALT the EARTH with your ashes RYAN!

!!!! Sign me up.

[Gee]

Originally posted by Tylerbv

+ It's not even slightly believable that they would not have done a DNA test to check who's Hester's real parents were, or check if #5 was actually adopted, OR check if #3 was actually mentally ill. Like does no one fact check this ****? Lazy ass jury.

Also, the jury needs to be unanimous. One lady getting offended at being called a HIPPO can't change the whole jury's minds. FIX IT RYAN.

I'll give them a pass on the DNA.

The show up until the final hour had been filled with things that would never actually happen. I seriously thought the OTT comedy would end and take a more serious route whenever the killer was revealed.

Boy was I wrong.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by tylerlscwv

I don't think he started saying that until after it premiered honestly. Which was likely just to save face. And I'm sure he was prepared for the possibility of more episodes.

This show has never presented itself in a less-is-more kind of way, so I just believe that he might have had some expectations of it being a conventional full season.

These are responses to other posts I'm too lazy to quote:

• Empire only had 12 its first season because it was a midseason replacement. The second season has 18 because they don't want to beat it to death to destroy the hype (basically FOX is just trying a different marketing strategy).
• The Following only has 13-15 a season because it was also a midseason replacement and not a huge success.
• How To Get Away With Murder has shorter seasons to accommodate Viola Davis' movie career.
• And Quantico is a ratings hit so it has been given a full 22 episode order.

I'm not trying to be a know it all, but all of these shows had specific reasons why they were shorter and I'm just coming from this with a knowledge of how network television works. Scream Queens had the flexibility to kill off any main cast members who couldn't stick around for a full 22 episodes and premiered in the fall and it had a big promo train behind it. If it had been a bigger hit, it probably would have gotten at least a few extra episodes ordered if not quite 22 just so FOX could keep it for a bit in the spring.

The show was confirmed to be greenlit for 15 episodes, then in an interview with Jamie that aired On Demand, he said it was 13 and that everything would be explained and we'd have our 4-5 survivors at the end of 13 episodes. He never planned for 22.

[XtinaPanicGodney]

I am going to bed. Hopefully I dream about the show being cancelled and then it actually happens.

Good night Chanels.

[tigerlily13]

I've never heard of a 22 order for an hour long per episode series. It was always going to be 13/15. 22 episodes per season for SQ would've been HELLA extra.

[Tylerbv]

Originally posted by Repo

Are we calling for realism on THIS show? really? And they didn't fall for any of it, thus "Not guilty." Chanel shouldve kept quiet.

I mean, this show wasn't that outrageous in terms of keeping it realistic. It had its moments, but why would NO ONE, not even blockhead Grace who KNEW Hester was the killer, think to suggest a DNA test or fact check anything. Grace is a know it all. She's not satisfied until she KNOWS she has her suspect. Surely she would've thought of one of these things rather than just letting the girl she KNOWS is the killer stay as one of the heads of the sorority. What kind of bad characterization?

[AccioMiley]

What a damn mess
But it's just a tv show. Y'all need to chill

[Newt]

I'm gonna go pop a K-pin and try to pass out. Hopefully I'll wake up tomorrow and it's Tuesday again and this was all a giant Dominos pizza-induced dream



And final note, ryan has always been **** at conclusions. I've literally never seen something he's concluded that turned out well. Yes, this one is particularly bad, but I don't understand how you girls can't see this is a classic ryan murphy episode. The only way he could have made a better ending is if he plagiarized the whole thing from the internet.

[Nutitle]

The meltdowns I LIVE! Agree 100%

[Silence.]

Honestly I don't even care that Grace wasn't the killer. I was more or less okay with it being Hester (despite the fact that it was so ****ing insanely easy), the actual finale was horribly written, made little to no sense, and dove tailed completely away from where the story was headed. That's not even mentioning the continuity errors that are throughout the explanation. Hester nowhere in her monologue took the blame for killing anyone minus Pete. Which makes no sense since Boone and Gigi couldn't have killed the rest. How does Sam even know what Boone looks like to recognise him or even suspect him. The fact that Pete took the blame for multiple murders minus Gigi, meaning she .. what killed herself or was killed by an outsider?

This finale made no sense and was HORRIBLY written. It's like they went with the back up of the back up.

[johnsuxx]

Originally posted by tigerlily13

I've never heard of a 22 order for an hour long per episode series. It was always going to be 13/15. 22 episodes per season for SQ would've been HELLA extra.

Most hour long series get a 22+ episode order?

[$AVE DAT MONEY]

Originally posted by AccioMiley

What a damn mess
But it's just a tv show. Y'all need to chill

they took their 'ATRL's scream queens' roles too seriously.

[Newt]

Originally posted by tylerlscwv

I don't think he started saying that until after it premiered honestly. Which was likely just to save face. And I'm sure he was prepared for the possibility of more episodes.

This show has never presented itself in a less-is-more kind of way, so I just believe that he might have had some expectations of it being a conventional full season.

These are responses to other posts I'm too lazy to quote:

• Empire only had 12 its first season because it was a midseason replacement. The second season has 18 because they don't want to beat it to death to destroy the hype (basically FOX is just trying a different marketing strategy).
• The Following only has 13-15 a season because it was also a midseason replacement and not a huge success.
• How To Get Away With Murder has shorter seasons to accommodate Viola Davis' movie career.
• And Quantico is a ratings hit so it has been given a full 22 episode order.

I'm not trying to be a know it all, but all of these shows had specific reasons why they were shorter and I'm just coming from this with a knowledge of how network television works. Scream Queens had the flexibility to kill off any main cast members who couldn't stick around for a full 22 episodes and premiered in the fall and it had a big promo train behind it. If it had been a bigger hit, it probably would have gotten at least a few extra episodes ordered if not quite 22 just so FOX could keep it for a bit in the spring.

This is nonsense lol. once again, correlation doesn't equal causation. illogical assumption. And once again, AHS, another show by Ryan, had a similar season-run