[Brando]

This whole inverted formula favours newer acts quite a lot. They can get insane longevity with miniscule sales. The only exception there is Adele who had both the longevity and sales and also time spent at #1.

[Nikolai.]

Rih being #13 on singles and not even top 100 on albums

Slay Madonna and Taylor

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by Brando

This whole inverted formula favours newer acts quite a lot. They can get insane longevity with miniscule sales. The only exception there is Adele who had both the longevity and sales and also time spent at #1.

not really
being the 100th best selling album this week is equal to being the 100th best selling album this week in 99, just there's more piracy now so overall sales are lower.
It's like saying it's easier for older artists to slay hot 100 as they can get insane longevity with miniscule sales.

[muddysquirrel]

Originally posted by Blues

"The sustained performance of Swift's albums (four of which are on the all-time titles list) enable her to rank at No. 8 on the all-time artists list. She is the only act among the all-time top 30 to have started their chart career since 2000."

That is crazy! What a legend.

[gagacasanova]

BB200 Artists:
#8 Taylor Swift
#39 Britney Spears
#47 Shania Twain
#48 Carrie Underwood
#96 Lady Gaga


H100 ARTISTS:
#34 Taylor Swift
#62 TLC
#67 Lady Gaga


H100 SINGLES
#25 We Found Love
#82 You're Still the One
#100 Dark Horse


BB200 ALBUMS
#12 The Fame
#14 Come On Over
#22 Some Hearts
#41 Baby One More Time
#64 1989
#140 Red

[popmusic]

Originally posted by simmnfierzig

They have weighted different times differently, because of changes like that in the methodology.
So longevity before that change got you more points than longevity now.

Exactly. A few months ago I tried to use my programme to compile Hot100 all time chart. It's quite complicated because Hot 100 longevity has changed.

Here's some results - sorry for polish, but I posted this irrelevant and boring stats on my own blog:

Number of different #1s per year on the Hot 100


Number of different songs per year on the Hot 100


Number of different songs in T3, T5, T10 per year on the Hot 100


So for example #1 in 1975 should be more weighed than 1996 #1

[Aden]

The picture they used for Gaga in the 25 Best Pop Hooks of All Time is just...

[nicedude]

Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble

Fearless, Taylor Swift, 1989, and Red chart in

Poor Speak Now

Speak Now is robbed

[Eternium]

Originally posted by Auburn

How is The Fame higher than Come on Over?

Wtf this is? Is SPS included or something?

It's based on chart placement, which is incredibly stupid

The fact that 21 is over albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Thriller and The Eagles Their Greatest Hits (1971-1975)

[fridayteenage]

No one but my fave has multiple entries in the T20 Albums.
Slay, Goddess Swift!

T10 albums that won AOTY: Adele
Michael Jackson
Taylor
Alanis
Carole
Fleetwood Mac
Celine
Whitney
Norah
Santana

7 of the top 9 are female. This leads further credence to the idea that solo women generally need Total Chart Dominance to win AOTY.

[iHype.]

Britney having no albums in Top 40!

Thought her stans said she had the biggest female peak ever?

They also said Oops! was the second biggest female album this century behind 21; yet it didn't make Top 100. Interesting.

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by Eternium

It's based on chart placement, which is incredibly stupid

The fact that 21 is over albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Thriller and The Eagles Their Greatest Hits (1971-1975)

it deserves to be tho
21 outsold all the 2nd-5th albums released in 2011 combined
no other album has done that

[Eternium]

Originally posted by Ash12345

not really
being the 100th best selling album this week is equal to being the 100th best selling album this week in 99, just there's more piracy now so overall sales are lower.
It's like saying it's easier for older artists to slay hot 100 as they can get insane longevity with miniscule sales.

Sis, can you really say every #1 is equal? How about "See You Again's" 12th week at #1 vs. Adele's "Hello's" first week at#1? Or maybe Sia's 50k-sold album at #1 versus Taylor's 1.3M-sold album at #1. If #1s can differ in strength from week-to-week, why would they be exactly the same from year-to-year?

And the reason that second statement is false is because radio used to outweigh sales on the charts (see: R&B songs being outsold by pop songs yet ruling the Hot 100 for much longer). Now we're actually seeing our Hot 100 return to how it was in the 90s/early 00s thanks to streaming making the charts so stagnant.

[Haribo]

Originally posted by iHype.

Britney having no albums in Top 40!

Thought her stans said she had the biggest female peak ever?

They also said Oops! was the second biggest female album this century behind 21; yet it didn't make Top 100. Interesting.

They said that? We all know Britney only sold what she sold because of two reasons: album sales peak + bubblegum pop.

[Auburn]

Can someone PLEASE explain this?

#12 The Fame - Lady Gaga
~4.8M sold, #2 peak, 48(?) weeks in the top ten, highest sales week of 169k (in its 61nd week)
Year-end: #8 2009, #4 2010, #56 2011

#14 Come on Over - Shania Twain
~18M sold, #2 peak, 54 weeks in the top ten, 62 weeks of 100k+ sales, highest sales week of 355k (in its 110th week)
Year-end: #195 1997, #5 1998, #3 1999, #20 2000
Decade-end: #3 1990s

I'm not picking solely on Gaga but clearly their methodology is flawed and heavily favours newer acts

[Frozen99]

Madonna is #2 on Hot 100 Artists but has no single the HOT 100 Singles chart... either way, slay

[Eternium]

Originally posted by iHype.

Britney having no albums in Top 40!

Thought her stans said she had the biggest female peak ever?

They also said Oops! was the second biggest female album this century behind 21; yet it didn't make Top 100. Interesting.

BB200:
#39 Britney Spears
#96 Lady Gaga

Now imagine if this was a Soundscan chart or actually based on music consumption

[Katy V.!]

Originally posted by Eternium

It's based on chart placement, which is incredibly stupid

The fact that 21 is over albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Thriller and The Eagles Their Greatest Hits (1971-1975)

21 is undoubtedly the 2nd biggest album of all time. So I don't get all the ""

Chart-runs all the only way to compare albums from different eras, and 21's is unmatched.

[RobynYoBank]

I think the charts I made are more accurate, honestly. The only major missteps are albums from the 1960s, which are very difficult to adjust, and albums like Come On Over, Dark Side of the Moon, and Led Zeppelin IV should have been higher.

Also, in case anyone is interested, when I ran my chart analysis, 21 had a pretty hefty lead over Thriller. The only album that I ever saw come close to it was The Sound of Music under certain adjustment schemes.

[D.M.F]

Originally posted by Eternium

BB200:
#39 Britney Spears
#96 Lady Gaga

Now imagine if this was a Soundscan chart or actually based on music consumption

He clearly said albums, and The Fame's higher than any Britney album bar none -

#12 The Fame - Lady Gaga

+ He clearly said peak, and Britney peaked with BOMT, and Gaga peaked with The Fame.