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TV Show: Survivor: Cambodia - Second Chance | Congrats to the winner!
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Originally posted by Airhead
Tasha wasnt bitter, she was smart. Trusting Kass would have been the biggest mistake of her life.
Once a snake, always a snake and Tasha knows it.
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Obviously you don't go trusting someone who has burned you in the past so easily, but the way she handled Kass was bitter and disdainful. She did the right thing by not wanting to divulge too much information to the other side, but then to lie to Kass, and then go lie again when she goes to tell your allies what you said to save face and make her the bad guy was wrong and unnecessary. Tasha tries to be the nice girl with a dash of sass and strength, but she's gone sour. You can't shut down future jurors like that and expect it to not catch up with you.
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Originally posted by Stevie
You must be a new viewer, girl.
People like Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth want a comfortable march to the end with their group of strong, "loyal" allies. It's all the ingredients that make BORING television. Kass and Ciera, two of the best characters of recent times, actually want to shake-up the way the game is played by having the courage to stand up to the dominant alphas and make daring moves. Nearly everybody else values predictability and ******** tribal lines while they have the remarkable ability to thrive in shifty situations. That's why they don't fit in with the rest. Sorry you don't understand it.
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Not a girl.
Not a new viewer.
Kass and Ciera trying to play all hard is what got their ass in trouble.
Kass running her mouth is what got her sent home, thought she was ruining Tasha game and she ruined her own. If she would have shutup and laid low for a few more weeks she could put herself in a good position.
People like Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth are smart they know when to strike, and to not be over the top messy.
And Ciera talk about people not playing the game.  You just started getting screen time, shutup.
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Originally posted by Stevie
Obviously you don't go trusting someone who has burned you in the past so easily, but the way she handled Kass was bitter and disdainful. She did the right thing by not wanting to divulge too much information to the other side, but then to lie to Kass, and then go lie again when she goes to tell your allies what you said to save face and make her the bad guy was wrong and unnecessary. Tasha tries to be the nice girl with a dash of sass and strength, but she's gone sour. You can't shut down future jurors like that and expect it to not catch up with you.
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Cry me a river....
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This mess of an episode
Glad Chaos Kass is gone. I never liked ha ass
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by Airhead
Not a girl.
Not a new viewer.
Kass and Ciera trying to play all hard is what got their ass in trouble.
Kass running her mouth is what got her sent home, thought she was ruining Tasha game and she ruined her own. If she would have shutup and laid low for a few more weeks she could put herself in a good position.
People like Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth are smart they know when to strike, and to not be over the top messy.
And Ciera talk about people not playing the game. You just started getting screen time, shutup. |
You say you're not a new viewer, but then you come off completely unaware of Ciera's resume from Blood vs. Water. 
Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth all have yet to strike. Ever. They have nothing to show yet in terms of actually making game-changing blindsides and moves. In their previous seasons, they've tried to hunker down in their alliances, only to later get struck by other players. Tasha was owned by Kass, Wiglesworth was bested by Richard and flamed by Sue in an iconic final tribal, Savage's righteous downfall was due to the outcast twist and Lil, and Jeremy was ruined by a glorious female-led, threat-massacring alliance in San Juan Del Sur. Study up, boo. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Stevie
You say you're not a new viewer, but then you come off completely unaware of Ciera's resume from Blood vs. Water.
Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth all have yet to strike. Ever. They have nothing to show yet in terms of actually making game-changing blindsides and moves. In their previous seasons, they've only tired to hunker down in their alliances, only to later get struck by other players. Tasha was owned by Kass, Wiglesworth was bested by Richard and flamed by Sue in an iconic final tribal, Savage's righteous downfall was due to the outcast twist and Lil, and Jeremy was ruined by a glorious female-led, threat-massacring alliance in San Juan Del Sur. Study up, boo. |
Wow, many props for this awesomeness  . Jeremy's struck before though by getting rid of Josh
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Originally posted by rl231
Wow, many props for this awesomeness . Jeremy's struck before though by getting rid of Josh |
Thanks!
Although it can be said that Jeremy was the head of the alliance that opposed Josh's, I think it was actually queen Jaclyn who decided she had enough of the douchey bozos, thereby flipping with her beau Jon to give Jeremy's team the numbers for that tribal council.
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Tasha can suck my ass 
Queen Kass 
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Originally posted by Stevie
Thanks!
Although it can be said that Jeremy was the head of the alliance that opposed Josh's, I think it was actually queen Jaclyn who decided she had enough of the douchey bozos, thereby flipping with her beau Jon to give Jeremy's team the numbers for that tribal council. |
That's true! But then they flipped again
It was a great season though
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Tasha lying to Kass and then lying to the Bayon alliance was such a hot mess. That just cost her the game right there. Oh well, at least she got out Kass. She's still my fave.
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Kass was too good for this season.
I'm glad she's the first juror.
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Confessional count
11 | Andrew |
7 | Kass |
5 | Joe | Spencer |
3 | Ciera | Kelley | Tasha |
1 | Jeremy | Keith | Stephen |
0 | Abi-Maria | Kelly | Kimmi |
Ddddd @ Wiglesworth still being invisible this season. Has she even had more than 5 confessionals?
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Originally posted by Stevie
Players like Kass and Ciera really need to play an under-the-radar game their second times around, after such big showings their first times. They waited for like over two weeks to go to a tribal council and simply couldn't help themselves, playing too hard. They should have just let Spencer go last week, kept good graces with Savage, and tried to be Bayon-strong for a while. I love their willingness to always shake thing up, and Kass/Ciera/Abi/Kelley could have been the core of a beautiful alliance, but they screwed themselves last week by wanting to make a big move too soon, with Abi only wanting to go for Woo. Of course Spencer was going to turn on them, and people like Joe and Keith would hang with the alphas. 
Kass and Ciera should really be third-timers, though. And that immunity necklace was gorgeous, so there's that.
Stephen and Tasha are really getting on my nerves. Stephen needs to cool it with all the talk of strategy, with nothing to show for it, and the "changing the way the game is played" ********. People have been going after women on the merge vote for years now! It's because alliances think that they're the least easily predicted vote by the opposition, and they're unlikely to have an idol. Also, doesn't he know that the bros are going to come for him soon? I don't understand why he's chosen to align with people he clearly doesn't fit in with. He's always had this strange penchant for macho, heroic men a la JT. Perhaps it's because they're everything he wishes he was. And Tasha is still bitter about Cagayan and it's just sad. Yeah, Kass reverted back to her old game, but Tasha being hung up on the past and already lying to her allies about lies she's told is going to cost her.
This season could have gone over so great with a one-two punch of Vytas and Spencer and then onward, but instead we get Shirin, Peih-Gee, Jeff, and Kass as four of the first seven boots. Over it. Call me back when the Alphas start killing each other. |
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Originally posted by Stevie
You must be a new viewer, girl.
People like Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth want a comfortable march to the end with their group of strong, "loyal" allies. It's all the ingredients that make BORING television. Kass and Ciera, two of the best characters of recent times, actually want to shake-up the way the game is played by having the courage to stand up to the dominant alphas and make daring moves. Nearly everybody else values predictability and ******** tribal lines while they have the remarkable ability to thrive in shifty situations. That's why they don't fit in with the rest. Sorry you don't understand it.
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Originally posted by Stevie
Obviously you don't go trusting someone who has burned you in the past so easily, but the way she handled Kass was bitter and disdainful. She did the right thing by not wanting to divulge too much information to the other side, but then to lie to Kass, and then go lie again when she goes to tell your allies what you said to save face and make her the bad guy was wrong and unnecessary. Tasha tries to be the nice girl with a dash of sass and strength, but she's gone sour. You can't shut down future jurors like that and expect it to not catch up with you.
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Originally posted by Stevie
You say you're not a new viewer, but then you come off completely unaware of Ciera's resume from Blood vs. Water.
Jeremy, Savage, Tasha, and Wiglesworth all have yet to strike. Ever. They have nothing to show yet in terms of actually making game-changing blindsides and moves. In their previous seasons, they've tried to hunker down in their alliances, only to later get struck by other players. Tasha was owned by Kass, Wiglesworth was bested by Richard and flamed by Sue in an iconic final tribal, Savage's righteous downfall was due to the outcast twist and Lil, and Jeremy was ruined by a glorious female-led, threat-massacring alliance in San Juan Del Sur. Study up, boo. |
Tasha did when she exposed Jeff in front of the whole cast. That, in addition to her building a strong relationship with Abi, convinced Abi to flip which turned the game around for both her and Savage.
If we're only considering their original seasons, she and Kass struck during Cagayan's second tribal when they got rid of Garrett. That move cemented both of their places in the game until the merge seeing as Garrett and Spencer likely would have gotten rid of them in the third and fourth Luzon tribals.
I agree that the whole "Bye, bye, Bayon" debacle was a terrible move on Tasha's part, but you can't fault Tasha for not being able to even consider trusting Kass when she was the one who was burnt the most by Kass on Cagayan. Also, it'd be ridiculous for Tasha to think about flipping on Bayon this early considering how high she is on the totem pole in that alliance. Like you
I understand how much you want the more entertaining people to stay but nobody wants to work with someone with a history as spotty as Kass's. Especially after the huge blindside she pulled on Woo. Like you said, players like her need to be under the radar until the first or second merge tribal. She let her crazy come out too early and that's why she's gone.
With that being said, I'm so worried for Ciera. Thankfully, now that they've gotten rid of Kass, I don't think they'll want to target her for awhile since she'll probably be seen as powerless and weak in challenges but still.... 
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Originally posted by Ivory.
Tasha did when she exposed Jeff in front of the whole cast. That, in addition to her building a strong relationship with Abi, convinced Abi to flip which turned the game around for both her and Savage.
If we're only considering their original seasons, she and Kass struck during Cagayan's second tribal when they got rid of Garrett. That move cemented both of their places in the game until the merge seeing as Garrett and Spencer likely would have gotten rid of them in the third and fourth Luzon tribals.
I agree that the whole "Bye, bye, Bayon" debacle was a terrible move on Tasha's part, but you can't fault Tasha for not being able to even consider trusting Kass when she was the one who was burnt the most by Kass on Cagayan. Also, it'd be ridiculous for Tasha to think about flipping on Bayon this early considering how high she is on the totem pole in that alliance. Like you
I understand how much you want the more entertaining people to stay but nobody wants to work with someone with a history as spotty as Kass's. Especially after the huge blindside she pulled on Woo. Like you said, players like her need to be under the radar until the first or second merge tribal. She let her crazy come out too early and that's why she's gone.
With that being said, I'm so worried for Ciera. Thankfully, now that they've gotten rid of Kass, I don't think they'll want to target her for awhile since she'll probably be seen as powerless and weak in challenges but still.... |
It's Savage though
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Originally posted by rl231
It's Savage though |
Nnnnn, you're right. 
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Probst did say pre-season that the strategy this season will be unorthodox
It's clear from this episode that the alpha-males will dominate this season. An anti-black widow alliance if you will (aka what ATRL and Reddit dread)
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Originally posted by iamstrong
Probst did say pre-season that the strategy this season will be unorthodox
It's clear from this episode that the alpha-males will dominate this season. An anti-black widow alliance if you will (aka what ATRL and Reddit dread)
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Doesn't that go against unorthodox strategy though? Because all alpha males in the game implies a Pagonging IMO
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Ciera is a Queen.  That's all I'm going to say.
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Originally posted by rl231
Doesn't that go against unorthodox strategy though? Because all alpha males in the game implies a Pagonging IMO
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Not necessarily, because they tend to try and get one another out to be the top dog in challenges
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