No offense because I'm a huge Madonna fan but most of her 30+ stans that run her forums suck and are creepily obsessed. This isn't just a Madonna issue though, it's like this with anyone older on the Internet and don't know how to behave. See some of the older Mariah and Mary J Blige forums.
Take a few minutes to browse madonnanation, I don't think i've seen a bigger collection of insane people
These songs are both basic, like Lana Del Rey and Banks. Makes sense.
Fairly sure you said Honeymoon was one of the best albums of the year, but okay... Carly is incapable of producing non-basic music so it comes with the territory I guess.