[Ascension]

^ I'm with y'all. I don't worry about what she's doing next at all; I trust her judgment and I don't think I'll be disappointed with what she will bring in the least bit. She always gives a mixture of things, so worst case scenario, there may be a song or two I dislike. Whatevs.

[Dessy Fenix]

I'm not one to start hyping up **** but does anyone else feels like the Beyoncé's Domination is just starting? DIL and B'Day were great work from her. But she propelled herself to new heights with I Am... Sasha Fierce. At that point she's one of the biggest icon. 4 reestablishes Bey's artistry imo and made her seems more grounded compared to Sasha Fierce. And with just 5 albums she's already deemed a legend by most of the Hive and part of the GP.

But it only been 5 solo albums with 2 signifcant impacts on the GP (with SF and Self-Titled). I feel like these next 5 albums or whatever amount she decides to do will be the tests of Beyoncé's legacy. Drawing comparisons to Michael Jackson, he took 5-6 albums to reach extreme heights and he continues that for 3 albums. Bey is in the perfect position to do or outdo just that. But with even more UMP because of her previous SF era.

BUT she would need to snap-backs with her gameplans. The single choices are just not cutting it and the lack of effort in promo. I can understand the latter perfectly, especially if she prefer to give her albums more focus (and that seems to be working).


I have no idea why I'm writing an essay here. I'm just excited and expecting a MJ-level slayage but I shouldn't be hyped like that. I just want to enjoy the music. Or maybe I want to see the world enjoy what I see in Bey. I don't know

[Bey Admired]

Originally posted by dessy

I'm not one to start hyping up **** but does anyone else feels like the Beyoncé's Domination is just starting? DIL and B'Day were great work from her. But she propelled herself to new heights with I Am... Sasha Fierce. At that point she's one of the biggest icon. 4 reestablishes Bey's artistry imo and made her seems more grounded compared to Sasha Fierce. And with just 5 albums she's already deemed a legend by most of the Hive and part of the GP.

But it only been 5 solo albums with 2 signifcant impacts on the GP (with SF and Self-Titled). I feel like these next 5 albums or whatever amount she decides to do will be the tests of Beyoncé's legacy. Drawing comparisons to Michael Jackson, he took 5-6 albums to reach extreme heights and he continues that for 3 albums. Bey is in the perfect position to do or outdo just that. But with even more UMP because of her previous SF era.

BUT she would need to snap-backs with her gameplans. The single choices are just not cutting it and the lack of effort in promo. I can understand the latter perfectly, especially if she prefer to give her albums more focus (and that seems to be working).


I have no idea why I'm writing an essay here. I'm just excited and expecting a MJ-level slayage but I shouldn't be hyped like that. I just want to enjoy the music. Or maybe I want to see the world enjoy what I see in Bey. I don't know

I try not to criticise Bey and her decisions but I do not get this lack of promo thing. What is she thinking? To me, she could have achieved 10x more with her last album that would have really cemented its place in history. Instead, she chose to abandon its singles which could have propelled the album around the world.

Does anyone else get it? Are we ever going to see Beyoncé dompromo again if it isn't for a film or a vegan diet? I think that's very worrying. Even the biggest musical artists of all time did promo even 10-20 albums in. There will come a point when all radio will abandon her, Apple will not give/refuse her any promo due to Tidal, all media will turn against her, and then what will she do? Does she even care?

I thought the surprise release was an incredible strategy. Her strategy following the release has been far from incredible. Sure, it's been revolutionary in that literally no artist at the stage of their career that Bey is in has totally abandoned all promo and media. If I try to get into her head to understand it, I'm thinking that she's thinking 'I don't need it anymore, I'm already a legend'. Well yes Beyoncé, you are a legend. However, you don't want your career to start falling off when you're not even 40 yet.

I hope her for her next album, she rinses every last bit of potential out of it. I want I AM levels of promo. I want world domination.

I'm not even that bothered about her commercial success; nevertheless, I just want to prove to all the naysayers that the reason BEYONCÉ didn't go to #1 in a lot of countries (official charts) is because she didn't care. If Bey did really care with her promo etc. There's no doubt that she would still be the best selling pop girl out there (well, bar Adele but that's reasonable).

[ShouldersSideways]

She isn't giving up promo because she thinks shes already a legend. She's doing it because her life was relentless promo until Blue was born. A lot of the Hive may not like Britney Spears but there is a similarity between her and Bey here; they both gave their childhood up for the music industry and now with children of their own they don't want to miss their children grow up. Doing promo for an album is more work than the album itself.

The social media age is toxic when it comes to celebrity, too. If she were to do an interview and slip up and say something Twitter doesn't agree with it could have a massive impact on her career. She's rightfully protecting herself.

[Bey Admired]

Originally posted by ShouldersSideways

She isn't giving up promo because she thinks shes already a legend. She's doing it because her life was relentless promo until Blue was born. A lot of the Hive may not like Britney Spears but there is a similarity between her and Bey here; they both gave their childhood up for the music industry and now with children of their own they don't want to miss their children grow up. Doing promo for an album is more work than the album itself.

The social media age is toxic when it comes to celebrity, too. If she were to do an interview and slip up and say something Twitter doesn't agree with it could have a massive impact on her career. She's rightfully protecting herself.

I think there's likely to be more a of a backlash from the media and the GP in general if she doesn't give an interview soon. People may start to think that she thinks she too good to do an interview. I think Bey wants to keep an aura of 'mysterious-ness' about her which is smart. However, she really should make an exception occasionally. For instance, her obvious refusal to do an interview for the September issue of Vogue, I mean, come on! That's taking it too far.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Bey Admired

I try not to criticise Bey and her decisions but I do not get this lack of promo thing. What is she thinking? To me, she could have achieved 10x more with her last album that would have really cemented its place in history. Instead, she chose to abandon its singles which could have propelled the album around the world.

Does anyone else get it? Are we ever going to see Beyoncé dompromo again if it isn't for a film or a vegan diet? I think that's very worrying. Even the biggest musical artists of all time did promo even 10-20 albums in. There will come a point when all radio will abandon her, Apple will not give/refuse her any promo due to Tidal, all media will turn against her, and then what will she do? Does she even care?

It's the strangest thing. How she's going to promo for the vegan diet (I should try that though) but not going to promo 7/11. I mean it was just inches away from top 10 BB. I know she probably doesn't care about the charts, nor does she need to at this point. She loves posting about herself and her family on instagram. I can understand why she wouldn't focus on promo for Blue and Jay-Z.
But there are just some thing I don't understand at all. Why take the time to do vegan diet promo and do magazine covers but can't be bother to take a couple second to upload a footage of Runnin' to her most active social media account.

The single choices are what bother me the most. I'm not dragging XO nor could her team predicted the outcome. But why not Mine? What about Haunted and Blow? And the treatment Flawless (Remix) received as a single. It did not felt like a single.
And I'll take it further with Grown Woman, Standing On The Sun and Feeling Myself. Like... I just don't understand. Even if she just wanted us to have fun with the music, where the push to make more people have fun with the music (7/11)? I just want to understand where is Bey and her team trying to go with these decisions.

[Bey Admired]

Originally posted by dessy

It's the strangest thing. How she's going to promo for the vegan diet (I should try that though) but not going to promo 7/11. I mean it was just inches away from top 10 BB. I know she probably doesn't care about the charts, nor does she need to at this point. She loves posting about herself and her family on instagram. I can understand why she wouldn't focus on promo for Blue and Jay-Z.
But there are just some thing I don't understand at all. Why take the time to do vegan diet promo and do magazine covers but can't be bother to take a couple second to upload a footage of Runnin' to her most active social media account.

The single choices are what bother me the most. I'm not dragging XO nor could her team predicted the outcome. But why not Mine? What about Haunted and Blow? And the treatment Flawless (Remix) received as a single. It did not felt like a single.
And I'll take it further with Grown Woman, Standing On The Sun and Feeling Myself. Like... I just don't understand. Even if she just wanted us to have fun with the music, where the push to make more people have fun with the music (7/11)? I just want to understand where is Bey and her team trying to go with these decisions.

Flawless was a single?

[ShouldersSideways]

I agree with the singles choices and management. It felt like - and I'm not saying this to excuse chart performance - a deliberate effort to avoid a hit. (Mine could've been a big fall hit with its sound and Drake's name on it, even Pretty Hurts had that anthemic smash feeling about it.) It makes you wonder if there is a plan in place and a reason for it. She's an intelligent woman and has a great team behind her so they could very well be holding the singles back for a reason.

The focus this time was on the album as a statement.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by ShouldersSideways

She isn't giving up promo because she thinks shes already a legend. She's doing it because her life was relentless promo until Blue was born. A lot of the Hive may not like Britney Spears but there is a similarity between her and Bey here; they both gave their childhood up for the music industry and now with children of their own they don't want to miss their children grow up. Doing promo for an album is more work than the album itself.

The social media age is toxic when it comes to celebrity, too. If she were to do an interview and slip up and say something Twitter doesn't agree with it could have a massive impact on her career. She's rightfully protecting herself.

See this makes sense. Bey's every moment is tracked. Every breath she takes invite comments from everyone. And she became quite calculative of this. I wonder about Bow Down/I Been On sometime. When I first heard it I thought she lost her mind and is about to attack the music industry and her haters. It feels like now she suppresses that anger and converted it to radio silence and it's likely working for her.

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Thank you guys for entertaining my thoughts today. I have no idea what compelled me to discuss Bey like this today.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Bey Admired

Flawless was a single?

See! I don't know whether it was or not. I heard mixed comments from the Hive and Wiki is being it unreliable self.

Originally posted by ShouldersSideways

I agree with the singles choices and management. It felt like - and I'm not saying this to excuse chart performance - a deliberate effort to avoid a hit. (Mine could've been a big fall hit with its sound and Drake's name on it, even Pretty Hurts had that anthemic smash feeling about it.) It makes you wonder if there is a plan in place and a reason for it. She's an intelligent woman and has a great team behind her so they could very well be holding the singles back for a reason.

The focus this time was on the album as a statement.

This is exactly how I feel. It's all calculated or planned. Maybe to enhance the full Visual Album. There's also the infamous "quick lil single" comment. But I see no reason to sabotage herself like that. If people hear multiple singles they like, they will probably going to want to hear the whole album the that would still enhance the album as a whole.

[ShouldersSideways]

Originally posted by dessy

See this makes sense. Bey's every moment is tracked. Every breath she takes invite comments from everyone. And she became quite calculative of this. I wonder about Bow Down/I Been On sometime. When I first heard it I thought she lost her mind and is about to attack the music industry and her haters. It feels like now she suppresses that anger and converted it to radio silence and it's likely working for her.

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Thank you guys for entertaining my thoughts today. I have no idea what compelled me to discuss Bey like this today.

Yeah, just imagine if she finally agrees to a sit-down interview. They've already preapproved the questions, everything is going along great. And then, as journalists do, the interviewer asks her something off-the-wall like her opinion on Syrian refugees. She can either get up and walk out (which they would then air), she can decline to comment (which people will use against her), or she can give her opinion which is going to make someone, somewhere angry. She's a pop star, not a politician.

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And you're welcome. If you can't discuss Beyonce in the Beyonce base of a music forum, where can you discuss her?

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by ShouldersSideways

And you're welcome. If you can't discuss Beyonce in the Beyonce base of a music forum, where can you discuss her?

(Damn this video. )

[jafet]

She is in my opinión one huge era apart! But im talking Sasha fierce like era! One great uptempo iconic song/vídeo and two power ballad to cement the era! But servings vocals. That make her tour in stadium alone. That type of era.

[JonginBey]

Originally posted by Bey Admired

Flawless was a single?

I've always thought it was

[Chronix]

Originally posted by B.Revolution

No one made a thread that Jonas Akerlund confirmed a MCSWT DVD?

receipts?

[sadnews]

flawless remix was released to us urban radio. so it is urban radio single.

[*-ChriZ-*]

Maybe, Bey and her team want to make ST more of a catalog seller that will sell even well into her fourties.That's why the focus lied so heavily on the non-promotion of her singles. She wanted all the attention for the album as a package, thats why we only got 2 performances of singles alone (XO at the Brits and DrIL at the Grammys) and one big performance of the entire catalog of songs @ the VMAs.
I could also see her handling ST this way because she actually didnt want to be in peoples faces all the time. 4 was heavily promoted as well, and I could see why she would chose to not promote after IASF and 4. B6 will probably be more promoted again. ST is all about the power of understatement, thats why the entire art of that era was so simple yet powerful.

[Ressti]

Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*

Maybe, Bey and her team want to make ST more of a catalog seller that will sell even well into her fourties.That's why the focus lied so heavily on the non-promotion of her singles. She wanted all the attention for the album as a package, thats why we only got 2 performances of singles alone (XO at the Brits and DrIL at the Grammys) and one big performance of the entire catalog of songs @ the VMAs.
I could also see her handling ST this way because she actually didnt want to be in peoples faces all the time. 4 was heavily promoted as well, and I could see why she would chose to not promote after IASF and 4. B6 will probably be more promoted again. ST is all about the power of understatement, thats why the entire art of that era was so simple yet powerful.

Well... singles help sell an album. Luckily she has Drunk in Love.

[GrownBoy92]

I think she might release a Live DVD (Mrs. Carter Show) & The New album before 2015 ends.
She loves November and the Black Friday, she won't miss it somehow.

[B.Revolution]

Originally posted by Chronix

receipts?

Check his favorites on twitter.