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Discussion: Ringtone sales irrelevant?
Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by Harry
Aren't ringtones like super cheap? and given free most of the time for downloads. Plus, in Korea you pay $3 for a week and you can download whatever you want or stg like dat
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Ringtones cost more than singles 
And on Spotify you can listen to whatever you want for FREE.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The problem with ATRL is that when it comes to Beyonce they LOVE to pick and choose what to accept and what not to accept. Ringtones were HUGE back then and are still relevant. Believe or not some people still by ringtones so instead wondering if people do, get up and go outside. Leave ATRL for a while and interact with some people.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by ianBK4
People PAID for it, like  |
Something that they can't seem to understand. It's pretty embarrassing on their part 
And people still buy them.
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Member Since: 9/13/2009
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Mess ain't nobody got time to hate on bey  .
I just thought it'd only be fair not to include ringtones since no one else other than hive is using it
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 6/29/2002
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Of course they count. The problem is the lack of data. RIAA alone is not enough. Take for example Paper Planes. This was its run on the Ringtones chart: 11-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-6-8-13-15-18-19
But it's not certified. Charting around the same time, this is Single Ladies: 19-11-7-8-9-12-12-10-10-15-17-18-20-20
And it's platinum. So there's no way to compare when there are such obvious gaps in the data. But if you're counting someone's total record sales, of course you can add them if you can find them.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by Harry
Mess ain't nobody got time to hate on bey .
I just thought it'd only be fair not to include ringtones since no one else other than hive is using it
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Then pull a CSI Miami and find them for your fave.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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wow. it backfired in here lolz!
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Quote:
Originally posted by satellites.™
IFPI does so?
RIAA counts and certifies them so?
They cost MORE than 69, 99, and 1.29 cent singles so?
You ******s count streams that are FREE so?
The Navy brags about FREE Youtube views so?
Am confused.
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jdjdhdks go off!
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
Posts: 12,818
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Quote:
Originally posted by satellites.™
IFPI does so?
RIAA counts and certifies them so?
They cost MORE than 69, 99, and 1.29 cent singles so?
You ******s count streams that are FREE so?
The Navy brags about FREE Youtube views so?
Am confused.
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
Posts: 15,418
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Quote:
Originally posted by Harry
Mess ain't nobody got time to hate on bey .
I just thought it'd only be fair not to include ringtones since no one else other than hive is using it
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WTF does it matter if another base doesn't count ringtones when they are valid record sales? What does that have to do with VALID PURCHASES of Bey records being counted in Bey's record total? Just bringing up completely irrelevant nonsense as there is no sound argument as to why ringtones aren't record sales like everything else when they cost just as much and back then, cost much more than digital tracks.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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If yall can brag about Rihanna total record sales despite only less than 20% are from album sales, do not talk about how we use ringtone sales. And you know that Streamings are counted for SEA and bring your fave another million sellings, right?
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Yeah. They're not really popular anymore so who cares? I find the korean sales far less worthy but most fanbases still use them.
Idk why people are bringing up Katy when with or without ringtones (and with or without streaming) she slays everyone with her singles.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The fact that receipts thread contains Korean tracks which were free to download is more of a concern
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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It's not "ringtone" only. And yes, they are official, of course. BB never combines anything.
By the way, there are countries that once incorporated them into their single charts, so if you feel like those U.S. sales should be excluded, then you're going to have to exclude single sales from some countries, too.
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
The fact that receipts thread contains Korean tracks which were free to download is more of a concern
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Britney Spears | The Receipts > South Korea:
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Lucky: 15,000
Me Against The Music: 5,000
Toxic: 20,000
3: 550,000
Hold It Against Me: 700,000
Till The World Ends: 400,000
S&M (Remix): 650,000
I Wanna Go: 600,000
Criminal: 70,000
Scream & Shout: 250,000
Ooh La La: 950,000 (Lmao. It did not do 950k.)
Work Bitch: 60,000
Perfume: 40,000
Pretty Girls: 25,000
Album Tracks: 1,500,000
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Look at yourself before you judge others.
Anyway, you should focus on your own fan base, which is naive enough to believe all those fake and made up sales figures posted a few weeks ago.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
Posts: 12,818
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Quote:
Originally posted by Haribo
It's not "ringtone" only. And yes, they are official, of course. BB never combines anything.
By the way, there are countries that once incorporated them into their single charts, so if you feel like those U.S. sales should be excluded, then you're going to have to exclude single sales from some countries, too.
Britney Spears | The Receipts > South Korea:
Look at yourself before you judge others.
Anyway, you should focus on your own fan base, which is naive enough to believe all those fake and made up sales figures posted a few weeks ago. |
Whoops 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 24,895
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Quote:
Originally posted by Haribo
It's not "ringtone" only. And yes, they are official, of course. BB never combines anything.
By the way, there are countries that once incorporated them into their single charts, so if you feel like those U.S. sales should be excluded, then you're going to have to exclude single sales from some countries, too.
Britney Spears | The Receipts > South Korea:
Look at yourself before you judge others.
Anyway, you should focus on your own fan base, which is naive enough to believe all those fake and made up sales figures posted a few weeks ago. |
I don't run that thread, I don't know where the OP gets his info. Ask him, but cheers for the confirmation your South Korean sales are fishy. And if you'd like to prove those figures were lies then by all means go for it!
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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The shade in the OP is THICK nn never change.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,675
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
I don't run that thread, I don't know where the OP gets his info. Ask him, but cheers for the confirmation your South Korean sales are fishy. And if you'd like to prove those figures were lies then by all means go for it!
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I asked the IFPI if those Korean sales were official in 2012 and they said, "yes!" Had they said "no," I would not take them into account. If those Korean sales are official, recognized and used, that clearly means they bring in revenue to the music industry because money is all the industry cares about.
The price doesn't matter at all either as long as they all cost (around) the same. And if people have a problem with the price, then they're going to have to stop taking single sales that come from streaming into account since many of those streams literally cost NOTHING.
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Member Since: 6/3/2006
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Quote:
Originally posted by satellites.™
IFPI does so?
RIAA counts and certifies them so?
They cost MORE than 69, 99, and 1.29 cent singles so?
You ******s count streams that are FREE so?
The Navy brags about FREE Youtube views so?
Am confused.
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lmaaaaaaaao.
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