[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by idkher

Yes, on a separate ringtone chart which they have stopped updating altogether. They don't combine ringtone sales with a song's digital sales like IFPI does.

You, as usual, lose.

IFPI counts digital sales period.

Every receipts thread using IFPI includings ALL digital format sales.

[BGKC]

Originally posted by Ascension

It's much better.

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Ringtone sales are record sales like everything else. It's beyond stupid to me that people are willing to count free streams over paid sales as legitimate parts of peoples' stats. A good deal of Bey's biggest singles were during a time period that ring tones were selling at higher rates than digital tracks and actually had separate charts/certifications for ringtones and ringtones are still counted as tracked and counted as record sales by official sources. This entire debate is so dumb.

Bey was basically one of the best selling digital artist between 2003-2008 before the digital sales boom in 2009. Crazy In Love, Irreplaceable, Halo, and Single Ladies all have impressive digital sales when you consider most of the best selling digital singles were released between 09-present... She may be slacking in the singles department now but even so, self titled was still the best selling digital album of 2013 which was a great rebound from 4 which i'll make no excuses for lol.

[MrLovett]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

You don't make any sense.

Does he ever?

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by getback

people still BUY ringtones?
they can just google it, or make ringtones with simple softwares

Yeah now they can, but one time ringtones was the hottest biggest digital format there was. And cost way more than what singles cost now.

[idkher]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

It's STILL a digital sale. It's still SOLD and is counted as a record sale.


Everything has a separate chart

Album - BB 200
Airplay Chart
Hot digital chart
Streaming Chart
Single Chart
Ringtone chart


etc
You don't make any sense.

You can't be this dense. IFPI combines ringtones into a song's total digital sales. Billboard does not, therefore they do not "use" ringtones in the same way IFPI does.

Was that remedial enough

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by MrLovett

Does he ever?

I'm just like

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by idkher

You can't be this dense. IFPI combines ringtones and video game song purchases into a song's total digital sales. Billboard does not, therefore they do not "use them" in the same way IFPI does.

Was that remedial enough

Your the dense one, trust.

It is STILL a digital record sale which is the point of this topic.

[Harry]

Originally posted by idkher

You can't be this dense. IFPI combines ringtones into a song's total digital sales. Billboard does not, therefore they do not "use" ringtones in the same way IFPI does.

Was that remedial enough

Interesting. I didn't know this. This post basically admonishes everything the Hive been saying

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by idkher

You can't be this dense. IFPI combines ringtones into a song's total digital sales. Billboard does not, therefore they do not "use" ringtones in the same way IFPI does.

Was that remedial enough

Billboard is launching a chart gauging the commercial popularity of ringtones. The Hot Ringtones chart will debut in the Nov. 6 issue of the magazine as part of a new Digital Entertainment special section.

Similar to Billboard's charts for record and CD sales as well as Billboard Radio Monitor's coverage of radio airplay, the new chart will reflect the "Top 20" polyphonic ringtone sales for each week, including song title, artist, previous week's position and number of weeks on the chart.

Billboard doesn't count them? Pick up a book.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Hivy

But wait the ***** Kats broke their hymen and ran into the other thread that got closed using IFPI receipts for DH and Roar when IFPI includes Ringtone Sales into the reports?

Excuse you but both Roar and Dark Horse sold more locally and globally than any Beyonce/Rihanna song. And besides Katy is not huge in Asia so her ringtones sales amount to much of her total.

[QueenBeyoncé]

Irreplaceable sold 3M+ in digital single sales, and 3M+ in digital ringstones (when ringtones were huge). Which = 6M+ in US digital sales. It's simple math. It's not that hard to understand.

[idkher]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

Billboard is launching a chart gauging the commercial popularity of ringtones. The Hot Ringtones chart will debut in the Nov. 6 issue of the magazine as part of a new Digital Entertainment special section.

Similar to Billboard's charts for record and CD sales as well as Billboard Radio Monitor's coverage of radio airplay, the new chart will reflect the "Top 20" polyphonic ringtone sales for each week, including song title, artist, previous week's position and number of weeks on the chart.

Billboard doesn't count them? Pick up a book.

Oh my goodness. I'm saying Billboard doesn't combine ringtone sales with a song's total digital sales. They are completely separate sales figures. IFPI, however, combines them into one sales figure.

Either way, ringtones were a quick fad of the mid 2000s that only played 20 seconds of a song. Should Britney stans be allowed to use HitClips sales?

[Caesar]

no

[idkher]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Excuse you but both Roar and Dark Horse sold more locally and globally than any Beyonce/Rihanna song. And besides Katy is not huge in Asia so her ringtones sales amount to much of her total.

Neither Roar or Dark Horse has outsold WFL globally

[Lord Blackout]

Ringtones are mainly a thing in Asia where they cost next to nothing so no they are not comparable to any sort of record sales

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by idkher

Oh my goodness. I'm saying Billboard doesn't combine ringtone sales with a song's total digital sales. They are completely separate sales figures. IFPI, however, combines them into one sales figure.

Either way, ringtones were a quick fad of the mid 2000s that only played 20 seconds of a song. Should Britney stans be allowed to use HitClips sales?

The point is... I know it went over you head it is a DIGITAL SALE period. Damn.

"quick fad" that sold MILLIONS of 20 seconds of songs.

[Maki]

who the **** buys ringtones?

[idkher]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

Irreplaceable sold 3M+ in digital single sales, and 3M+ in digital ringstones (when ringtones were huge). Which = 6M+ in US digital sales. It's simple math. It's not that hard to understand.

Irreplaceable a 6m seller? Literally only the hive

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by idkher

Neither Roar or Dark Horse has outsold WFL globally

Ok I'll give you WFL as I'm not sure. Still, Katy's ringtone sales barely amount for much of her total.

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by Maki

who the **** buys ringtones?

I not as big as it was at least in the US. Same thing can be said about VHS' (video tapes). No one buys them anymore. But should it not count towards Mariah, Janet, Madonna, Michael, Whitney records sales.? Which they do.