[WFL]

I think Pete is a red herring. He is not a good guy like he pretends to be but he's not the killer either. He is manupilating Grace to get revenge on Chanel. He can get info on Chanel and her secrets thanks to Grace.

I want to believe that Chanel is being set-up by her haters (two of them being Chanel #2 and Boone)

[Repo]

Originally posted by WFL

I think Pete is a red herring. He is not a good guy like he pretends to be but he's not the killer either. He is manupilating Grace to get revenge on Chanel. He can get info on Chanel and her secrets thanks to Grace.

I want to believe that Chanel is being set-up by her haters (two of them being Chanel #2 and Boone)

Chanel #2 is without question dead

[WFL]

Originally posted by Repo

Chanel #2 is without question dead

I thought she was confirmed to be coming back. So is it just gonna be flashbacks or was that a mis-info?

[Repo]

Originally posted by WFL

I thought she was confirmed to be coming back. So is it just gonna be flashbacks or was that a mis-info?

Flashbacks, probably with like 2 lines

[WFL]

Originally posted by Repo

Flashbacks, probably with like 2 lines

I, see. Thank you, Chad.

[Triton]

Originally posted by halcyonday

What if Mommy survived and is the killer

Too fat to fit in the suit.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

I'm not ruling Chanel out completely, but I highly doubt it's her. Everyone else has just as much of a motive as her.

[halcyonday]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

Repo, the "I know it's you Chanel" text that you were talking about isn't present in the current edit of the episode. I don't think that's evidence.

I'm not ruling Chanel out completely, but I highly doubt it's her. Everyone else has just as much of a motive as her.

Why did they delete it

Originally posted by Triton

Too fat to fit in the suit.

[Repo]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

Repo, the "I know it's you Chanel" text that you were talking about isn't present in the current edit of the episode. I don't think that's evidence.

I'm not ruling Chanel out completely, but I highly doubt it's her. Everyone else has just as much of a motive as her.

There's a grand total of one reason why Ryan would white that out.

Denise doesn't

Originally posted by WFL

I, see. Thank you, Chad.

You're welcome more popular person than Chanel

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

You can see it at 2:07 here, maybe the shot was cut from the show?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpoChDen9lc

EDIT: Looked at the scene, they have a big white space earlier when "I'm going to kill you" is sent then it reappears there later. So Ryan Murphy LITERALLY USED WHITE OUT to hide it. You only ever do that with a real clue.

Originally posted by Repo

The fact he literally whited out the text is what confirms it. You can tell Ryan realized what he did, tried to fix it, but somehow forget to finish the job

I don't understand why he would white out the text. How would it be a clue if he's trying to hide it? If it was meant to be a clue, he would've actually left it there rather than hiding it. I don't think him trying to hide the clue is proof that it's meant to BE the clue.

As for ruling out Pete & Cathy, I don't think that's fair. They're being set up pretty obviously, sure but I think that alone in itself could be a trick. They could expect people to think "Oh, it's not them, it's too obvious" and then we learn that it is them, and we should've known all along because it was right in our faces.

[Repo]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

I don't understand why he would white out the text. How would it be a clue if he's trying to hide it? If it was meant to be a clue, he would've actually left it there rather than hiding it. I don't think him trying to hide the clue is proof that it's meant to BE the clue.

Because the clue was too obvious? You don't white out a redherring clue. Ever. If people take something the wrong way and run with it... you leave it in so they guess wrong. The only time you ever white a clue out is if it's too obvious and you need to cut it.

Of course, he could be reverse-psyching us, but Ryan's noooot that smart

[HausOfCarlos]

Originally posted by WFL

I think Pete is a red herring. He is not a good guy like he pretends to be but he's not the killer either. He is manupilating Grace to get revenge on Chanel. He can get info on Chanel and her secrets thanks to Grace.

I want to believe that Chanel is being set-up by her haters (two of them being Chanel #2 and Boone)

I think it would rather be Chanel #5 and Boone and that she acted messy about gays and 'attacked' Boone trying to 'protect' Chanel as a way to cover up they are working together.

[Repo]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

As for ruling out Pete & Cathy, I don't think that's fair. They're being set up pretty obviously, sure but I think that alone in itself could be a trick. They could expect people to think "Oh, it's not them, it's too obvious" and then we learn that it is them, and we should've known all along because it was right in our faces.

I've seen that only ever get done once, and that's the original Scream.
You are right, and Ryan could be reverse-psyching us, but I don't think he's that smart

[tigerlily13]

Watch the killer be Zayday

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

I've seen that only ever get done once, and that's the original Scream.
You are right, and Ryan could be reverse-psyching us, but I don't think he's that smart

Exactly.

Also, I'm still failing to follow some of the logic with this. If the clue was meant to be the clue that pointed to Chanel, I don't see why he'd white it out in one moment and then forget to another. How are we supposed to know that clue is there if he whited it out?

As for Chad surviving, I'm not sure about that either. I'm not sure about anyone surviving. I think Hester & Zayday have pretty good shots, but those are the only ones. But mess @ you saying his fourth billing is proof of him being able to survive when tha lead actress is apparently toast. We're supposed to like her because of how ruthless she is; she doesn't need to be sympathetic to survive.

[Repo]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

Exactly.

Also, I'm still failing to follow some of the logic with this. If the clue was meant to be the clue that pointed to Chanel, I don't see why he'd white it out in one moment and then forget to another. How are we supposed to know that clue is there if he whited it out?

As for Chad surviving, I'm not sure about that either. I'm not sure about anyone surviving. I think Hester & Zayday have pretty good shots, but those are the only ones. But mess @ you saying his fourth billing is proof of him being able to survive when tha lead actress is apparently toast. We're supposed to like her because of how ruthless she is; she doesn't need to be sympathetic to survive.

The entire point of whiting it out is so we DON'T see the clue because he thinks it makes things too obvious. There's still hints for Chanel even taking it out, it's just way more obvious with it in.

Hey! Why are you suddenly coming for the coolest guy ever in a long line of cool guys? I'm hurt, Chanel!
Zayday is basically guaranteed. Disagreed on Hester, she seems pretty toast between being kinda psychotic, mostly out of focus, and turning into a Chanel . As for Chad, it's worth noting that Emma is a MUCH bigger name, whereas.... Glen Powell... isn't. Billing position coordinates with name size or role size, Glen Powell has zero name size, so it makes sense it fits role size. It's obviously not proof tho, but they seem to have interest in developing him as a person too (his family showing up and Glen Powell was on set after tht ep so he PROOOBABLY doesn't die , his friendship with Boone, etc.)

I've only seen one horror survivor with no redeeming qualities in my life... and we were meant to be on her side and sympathize with her/cheer for her somehow.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Brunette Ambition

grace wont die

LOL

[Repo]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

LOL

To be fair, Ryan's never pulled a bait-and-switch with any horror story leads. Vivien (or Ben, whichever you prefer), Lana, Cordelia, and Bette/Dot are all episode 1 levels of obvious

[HausOfCarlos]

Originally posted by Repo

To be fair, Ryan's never pulled a bait-and-switch with any horror story leads. Vivien (or Ben, whichever you prefer), Lana, Cordelia, and Bette/Dot are all episode 1 levels of obvious

Which is why he should be doing it this time around

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

The entire point of whiting it out is so we DON'T see the clue because he thinks it makes things too obvious. There's still hints for Chanel even taking it out, it's just way more obvious with it in.

Hey! Why are you suddenly coming for the coolest guy ever in a long line of cool guys? I'm hurt, Chanel!
Zayday is basically guaranteed. Disagreed on Hester, she seems pretty toast between being kinda psychotic, mostly out of focus, and turning into a Chanel . As for Chad, it's worth noting that Emma is a MUCH bigger name, whereas.... Glen Powell... isn't. Billing position coordinates with name size or role size, Glen Powell has zero name size, so it makes sense it fits role size. It's obviously not proof tho, but they seem to have interest in developing him as a person too (his family showing up and Glen Powell was on set after tht ep so he PROOOBABLY doesn't die , his friendship with Boone, etc.)

I've only seen one horror survivor with no redeeming qualities in my life... and we were meant to be on her side and sympathize with her/cheer for her somehow.

That doesn't make sense to me, because he said the clue would BE there for us. He's not going to HIDE the clue if we're meant to make a connection to it when we learn who the killer is.

Also, I love Chad, like I said, but I don't really see ANY of the men surviving the season. But I think there's just as much potential growth with all of the characters; I understand that Chad had some redeemable qualities in the first two episodes while Chanel didn't, but the cast has spent the entire time in interviews telling us everything's a twist and nothing is expected, so I don't think it's fair to rule out Chanel so quickly just because she hasn't shown a glimmer of being likable yet; we're two episodes in out of fifteen. But still, I hope anything that makes her more "conventionally likable" doesn't mean she becomes a good girl (but we've discussed this before).

But mess, sis. We need to talk about your use of "This 100% confirms"/"This 100% rules out"/"This guarantees"/etc. It's all speculation until now. We have no idea what Ryan's logic is. And these deaths are a mess. So far, the only people who have died are GOOD guys, and the one person who wasn't completely a good guy came back .