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Discussion: Taylor is "crumbling": Here's why
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The media is trying so hard to bring her down.  They're literally waiting for anything to criticize her.
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
The thing is that she's on top and we know how the media does the pop girls when they are slaying, they do anything to bring them down, see Madonna, Britney, Gaga. Also everything that goes up always has to go down but it's not bad, it's just normal.
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Although I do agree with what the article is saying to a certain degree, this is definitely true. People will go to LENGTHS to find something to drag a successful person down, so i'm not surprised there has been all this emphasis and talk about Taylor's clique.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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I kind of see where they're coming from but this is way too far-fetched.
Taylor might not be "friends" with every single person she brings on stage but they are people she's a fan of. Is she friends with Lisa Kudrow? Probably not. But the fact that Lisa accepted to come on stage for FREE just for Taylor (who is a huge fan of Friends) and to entertain fans is amazing.
Nicki and Taylor have actually liked eachother since Nicki first had success about 5-6 years ago. She didn't just start liking her for the sake of making sure people forget the drama from last month.
Also, Tayor has brought people on stage since her very first world tour in 2009. Yes she brings more people now but this isn't new. People are just starting to pick up on it because they never made a big deal out of it before.
Again, this article would make way more sense if it wasn't too far-fetched. Is Taylor trying to build something? Definitely. Is she fake because of that? No. Is she crumbling? No, actually I won't say the opposite.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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This article took the words out of my mouth. Taylor needs to be more aware of her manufactured and narcissistic image. It's the only thing that makes her unlikable (to me, at least)
But there is no denying Taylor is slaying right now. Her music is refreshing in today's drought of good pop music. I definitely don't think her personality flaws will impact her future music success. She'll easily sell 1m+ first week again with her next album. She isn't going anywhere.
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Originally posted by Valentine
This article took the words out of my mouth. Taylor needs to be more aware of her manufactured and narcissistic image. It's the only thing that makes her unlikable (to me, at least)
But there is no denying Taylor is slaying right now. Her music is refreshing in today's drought of good pop music. I definitely don't think her personality flaws will impact her future music success. She'll easily sell 1m+ first week again with her next album. She isn't going anywhere.
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Exactly.
People aren't saying she is falling apart in a success sense, they're saying it in an image sense. What we are seeing are cracks in her image which could be damaging if they can't be fixed. Hence why her image is "crumbling" as stated in the article.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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She will start "crumbling" when her music loses its quality. If she sustains the quality of her work, she has nothing to fear. Ultimately GaGa wasn't dragged because she turned artistic, she was dragged because she made a poor record. Rihanna is suffering the same thing right now to a lesser extent.
Taylor, on the other hand, has made quality records for 10 years now, since her stellar self-titled debut. She, unlike any other, has demonstrated that she can sustain the quality of her music. The fact that she writes so much [all] of it herself awards her an independence that will help prolong her dominance.
Ultimately, she might lose some of her appeal, and stop slaying as effortlessly as she is today. A song might not race to #3 on iTunes just because she released a music video for it. She might not break adds records. And, certainly, less journalistic ink will be spilled on her. Her every move will not be scrutinized as an engineered pop stratagem, or cultural appropriation. There will be fewer BuzzFeed articles penned about her.
But her success? Her acclaim? Her sales? And the loyalty of her fans? That will remain secure and unthreatened so long as she continues being the expert songwriter and artist that she is today. A statement like "...super-fans she once had may work on taking her down" is marvellously ignorant of the special phenomenon that her relationship with her fans is. Only a fool would assert that the men, women, boys and girls that have joined her loyal fanbase at various points from 2006 until the present day might grow weary of her and actively seek her downfall. Making that claim reveals that the author knows nothing of her peculiarly tight and loving relationship with her fans.
I have zero doubt that she will continue producing first-class music for the decades to come. And so long as her songwriting retains, maintains and sustains its quality, she can go in a million different directions and her fans will not leave her. I will not leave her. Everyone else can rise and crumble as they please, but the girl from Wyomissing with a song in her heart and a guitar in her hands will continue expressing her thoughts and making her fans happy (and selling records in the process, which I believe to be ancillary to her aims).
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Yes, Taylor is fake but it's her career. If she wants to make as much money as possible then that's her choice. There aren't many genuine pop stars, and Taylor definitely isn't one of them.
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People are so bothered and over-critical when it comes to her 
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Good.
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Originally posted by YR.
I do agree with this. Taylor Swift is not a feminist and the only thing that she got wrong in that feud was calling herself that. She can't use the word feminism when she did Bad Blood
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Yes she can. What she can't do is pretend "pitting women against other women" has something to do with feminism, especially when she applies that (fictitious) tenet of the movement so selectively.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I will never understand why so many people here claim that Taylor is fake. Anyone here met her? Anyone here had a conversation with her? So.... how do you know? 
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Originally posted by odin_envy_me
She will start "crumbling" when her music loses its quality. If she sustains the quality of her work, she has nothing to fear. Ultimately GaGa wasn't dragged because she turned artistic, she was dragged because she made a poor record. Rihanna is suffering the same thing right now to a lesser extent.
Taylor, on the other hand, has made quality records for 10 years now, since her stellar self-titled debut. She, unlike any other, has demonstrated that she can sustain the quality of her music. The fact that she writes so much [all] of it herself awards her an independence that will help prolong her dominance.
Ultimately, she might lose some of her appeal, and stop slaying as effortlessly as she is today. A song might not race to #3 on iTunes just because she released a music video for it. She might not break adds records. And, certainly, less journalistic ink will be spilled on her. Her every move will not be scrutinized as an engineered pop stratagem, or cultural appropriation. There will be fewer BuzzFeed articles penned about her.
But her success? Her acclaim? Her sales? And the loyalty of her fans? That will remain secure and unthreatened so long as she continues being the expert songwriter and artist that she is today. A statement like "...super-fans she once had may work on taking her down" is marvellously ignorant of the special phenomenon that her relationship with her fans is. Only a fool would assert that the men, women, boys and girls that have joined her loyal fanbase at various points from 2006 until the present day might grow weary of her and actively seek her downfall. Making that claim reveals that the author knows nothing of her peculiarly tight and loving relationship with her fans.
I have zero doubt that she will continue producing first-class music for the decades to come. And so long as her songwriting retains, maintains and sustains its quality, she can go in a million different directions and her fans will not leave her. I will not leave her. Everyone else can rise and crumble as they please, but the girl from Wyomissing with a song in her heart and a guitar in her hands will continue expressing her thoughts and making her fans happy (and selling records in the process, which I believe to be ancillary to her aims).
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The only one who could take Taylor down right now is Taylor herself. If she makes a bad album or distances herself from her fans, then she will fall. She won't fall as long as she keeps making good music and has a good relationship with her fans.
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Originally posted by Letícia L.
I will never understand why so many people here claim that Taylor is fake. Anyone here met her? Anyone here had a conversation with her? So.... how do you know? |
I will never understand why so many people claim she is real. Have you met her? Have you had a convo with her? How do you knowwww?
It's her mannerisms and tactics. I like Taylor but I can see there's more than meet the eyes.
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Oh please 
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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but she is crumbling and declining
she isn't #1 on iTunes when she usually is 
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Originally posted by odin_envy_me
She will start "crumbling" when her music loses its quality. If she sustains the quality of her work, she has nothing to fear. Ultimately GaGa wasn't dragged because she turned artistic, she was dragged because she made a poor record. Rihanna is suffering the same thing right now to a lesser extent.
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Sis BYE you are confusing quality with accessibility 
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Originally posted by dessy
I will never understand why so many people claim she is real. Have you met her? Have you had a convo with her? How do you knowwww?
It's her mannerisms and tactics. I like Taylor but I can see there's more than meet the eyes.
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Well, everyone who met her say this. Producers, singers, actors, writers, fans, radio people, etc etc.
Literally the only people who have nasty things to say about her never had a conversation with her. Coincidence? I think not.
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Member Since: 3/26/2012
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Yawn. I don't get why people are trying to hard to "expose" her as this evil demon being. Let her live lmao. She's not hurting anyone.
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Making bank is alright but she's a fake ass bitch.
I see no lies.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Letícia L.
Well, everyone who met her say this. Producers, singers, actors, writers, fans, radio people, etc etc.
Literally the only people who have nasty things to say about her never had a conversation with her. Coincidence? I think not. |
People can lie
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