[Pulse]

Originally posted by HermitTheFrog

Ugh am I defending her? Maybe! But I just don't think she deserves the hate. PLL has always been kinda cheesy and full of small plot holes, the entire Labor Night for example. But did you all actually believe that everything was going to make sense and be revealed NOW?

Can you blame us? We've been perched for 5 years, reading into clues that were red herrings while she keeps bragging how it will all make sense in the end. We expected better because we love the show. Most of us are fine with Cece being A (as it makes a lot of sense looking back) but the execution of the finale was dreadful.

We still don't know ish about the NAT club So many plot lines were just ignored for SEASONS

[HermitTheFrog]

Originally posted by Pulse

Can you blame us? We've been perched for 5 years, reading into clues that were red herrings while she keeps bragging how it will all make sense in the end. We expected better because we love the show. Most of us are fine with Cece being A (as it makes a lot of sense looking back) but the execution of the finale was dreadful.

We still don't know ish about the NAT club So many plot lines were just ignored for SEASONS

I think seasons 1 and 2 are put on rest. As weird as it sounds, I wasn't even expecting answers on these things, because I think we haven't heard or seen those old good characters for too long to make them relevant. They kinda killed all them to move on.

But what answers did you expect about NAT anyway? OK they were perverts with their sex tapes, but what else? A didn't kill them, NAT killed each other.

But I absolutely miss old characters like Jenna. She must come back ASAP.

[Cas]

Originally posted by HermitTheFrog

I think seasons 1 and 2 are put on rest. As weird as it sounds, I wasn't even expecting answers on these things, because I think we haven't heard or seen those old good characters for too long to make them relevant. They kinda killed all them to move on.

But what answers did you expect about NAT anyway? OK they were perverts with their sex tapes, but what else? A didn't kill them, NAT killed each other.

But I absolutely miss old characters like Jenna. She must come back ASAP.

That's exactly the point. It was very poor writing to do so.

[Pulse]

Maybe one of the problems were shippers/the fandom. At one point it seemed all the writers/producers cared about was fan-bait, love interests and fashion. Why would viewers (or better yet - the characters ) care that much about their prom dresses when someone is 45seconds away from pushing them into a hole to starve?

This show had so much potential, I was hoping they would make up for all the filler with this finale. I'll just hope Wren is Uber A 6B and 7 will be good.

[Robert]

More evidence exposing Marlene

[Squall]

Originally posted by Robert

More evidence exposing Marlene

I don't get it

[Pulse]

Originally posted by Squall

I don't get it

Her clothes are different

[Robert]

Originally posted by Squall

I don't get it

If Marlene has planned CeCe from the beginning you think she would of saved CeCe's first outfit

[HermitTheFrog]

Originally posted by Robert

If Marlene has planned CeCe from the beginning you think she would of saved CeCe's first outfit

It doesn't prove that they didn't have her planned. She maybe just planned to show that scene as a flashback and this walking out of the Brew listening to the girls thing came to her mind when writing the script.

I'm still the pain in the ... for you and say that IT WAS PLANNED. People are looking for their outfits to disprove that she was planned instead listening to the scenes and find real clues pointing at her.

there are plot holes in every show. In "Revenge" David died in 2004 but in 2002 Amanda was already in Hamptons revenging for his father. The lab Sammy was over 20 years old etc. In "12 Monkeys" pilot Katharina meets Cole for the first time but later in season 1 we see a flashback to their first meeting that is a completely different scene and a huge plot hole.

I just think the fans got too obsessed with the show and that's what screwed the writers up lol.

[21stcenturywhore]

This still pisses me off on a daily basis. **** you, Marlene.

[HermitTheFrog]

And why are you even trying to find logic from the show that had 47 episodes take place in 3 weeks of November 2011? LOL

that's when I lost my hope for things to make actually sense haha

[KasioKas]

HermitTheFrog IS marlene guys don't you see?

[HEIDI]

Originally posted by KasioKas

HermitTheFrog IS marlene guys don't you see?

Marlene, her impeccable taste in music!

Hermit the Frog is AMAZE.

[waryofothers]

The TCAs are today! I hope Vanessa wins her award for being A.

[HermitTheFrog]

I was just going to say that I rewatched 1x02 and it's so well directed. Lesli Linka Glatter is an amazing director, I had no idea the Homeland mom has directed for PLL edit: oops so it wasn't Lesli directing 1x09 but Liz Friedlander instead. Then all the good words to her as well

But yeah Hermit the Frog is amazing.

[cypriotpcdfan]

UGH it was sooo frustrating guys. i was banned for 2 months and could NOT be in this thread for that mess of a finale. But let me tell you i was RIGHT HERE in with you guys, HOLLERING at the comments as the episode went by.

So, let me analyze that night. I was so damn excited for the finale. i had everything planned. My parents went to sleep, i have my joint ready, i was STONED as **** for the finale, i wanted it to be a crazy experience(because i thought it was going to be ****ing EVENTFUL).

So, i stayed until 3a.m local time to watch it live with everyone else. Had my munchies ready, everything set.

And let me give a shout out to Marlene. Bitch you better PRAY you never come #FAceToFAce with me. Because i will literally SKULL drag you back to where the hell you came from you low class, no talent, messy as ****, ugly huge liar BITCH. She should be BANNED from writing. like, it should be considered a felony for Marlene to be hired as a writer again.

You will NOT troll your viewers like that. You will NOT underestimate out intelligence like that. You will NOT have our minds ****ed because of your lame and inexcusably horrible writing,

CeCe being A was amazing and i wouldn't have it any other way. But THAT's what you were planning all these years? Seriously? That lame ass story? All those plot holes? All the lies? All the questions that remain unanswered that were pretty damn IMPORTANT for the show?

CeCe was a trans that wanted to succeed in life through being A? It was the only thing she was good at?
REALLYY?????? I mean, REAAAAALLY????????

And not her making the entire reveal seem like a 1950s parody short film. Like, UUUUGGH i was screaming at my TV. I was like this CANNOT BE IT.

I did NOT keep your show alive by tuning in year after year, to finally have this messy ass reveal. I needed ACTION. I needed for it to be EVENTFUL. Not me watching everything going down like im god damn ARIA in that Carassimi group building. Like **** YOU Marlene.

You owe all the PLL fans a HUGE apology for that messy ass episode.

I wanted to let all these out for so many days. Had i not be banned last week, my essay would have been 10x bigger. I kind of cooled off now.
But im still FUMING.


You know what the hell she did? She created that Charles story last year. Threw it out there. And then she let the viewers decide how everything will go down. Im pretty sure she lurks all the damn forums about the show, and found the most RIDICULOUS theory and used it at the last minute. How the heel did CeCe turn into a gril in freaking Radley? Are they experimenting with gender changes in that facility? Like, that was sooooo stupid. And to not have it explained makes it even stupider.

You know damn well you are the world's worst writer EVER when basically ALL the theories out there were 10000x times better and made much more sense and actually connected EVERYTHING.

SOmeone posted a theory about Mona being A and trying to expose CeCe(Red Coat) i dont remember who it was. well, im sticking wioth that theory. For me, that is how the whole A arc ended. Mona was A and CeCe was Red Coat.

Oh, and now that i said Red Coat. I ****ing forgot all about Shower Harvey. Like

REEEEAAAAAALLLLYYYYYY? Out of all the semi relevant characters in the show that could be Red Coat/Black Widoww. Jenna, Melissa, Paige, Maya even ****ing Syndey. You go with SHOWER HARVEY? What the **** is wrong with you?

Ugh, im so done. This season was shaping up to be kind of brilliant. I was so excited for every episode. The mystery was back, the action was back, the spark was back. And then the finale happened and it destroyed everything.

Anyways, this pretty much sums up my feelings on that GOD awful finale.

I will say that i got goosebumps though when CeCe was revealed.I was expecting that moments for so many years, you guys know i was completely behind the CeCe is A theory. I even tweeted before the finale aired that CeCe is DEFINITELY A. But that's not what i had in mind for the finale.

And Vanessa was pretty good. She makes for a believable sociopath. But her character was done SO WRONG. She should not have agreed to that.

[Squall]

Originally posted by Pulse

Her clothes are different

Originally posted by Robert

If Marlene has planned CeCe from the beginning you think she would of saved CeCe's first outfit

She's a damn mess

+ Toby told Emily in 2x13 that his mother died the year before so Marlene really is a liar

[KasioKas]

Originally posted by cypriotpcdfan

And let me give a shout out to Marlene. Bitch you better PRAY you never come #FAceToFAce with me. Because i will literally SKULL drag you back to where the hell you came from you low class, no talent, messy as ****, ugly huge liar BITCH. She should be BANNED from writing. like, it should be considered a felony for Marlene to be hired as a writer again.

CeCe being A was amazing and i wouldn't have it any other way. But THAT's what you were planning all these years? Seriously? That lame ass story? All those plot holes? All the lies? All the questions that remain unanswered that were pretty damn IMPORTANT for the show?


You know damn well you are the world's worst writer EVER when basically ALL the theories out there were 10000x times better and made much more sense and actually connected EVERYTHING.


Ugh, im so done. This season was shaping up to be kind of brilliant. I was so excited for every episode. The mystery was back, the action was back, the spark was back. And then the finale happened and it destroyed everything.

The scream I let out reading your post I agree with everything you said tbh A+

[Pop]

Originally posted by cypriotpcdfan

UGH it was sooo frustrating guys. i was banned for 2 months and could NOT be in this thread for that mess of a finale. But let me tell you i was RIGHT HERE in with you guys, HOLLERING at the comments as the episode went by.

So, let me analyze that night. I was so damn excited for the finale. i had everything planned. My parents went to sleep, i have my joint ready, i was STONED as **** for the finale, i wanted it to be a crazy experience(because i thought it was going to be ****ing EVENTFUL).

So, i stayed until 3a.m local time to watch it live with everyone else. Had my munchies ready, everything set.

And let me give a shout out to Marlene. Bitch you better PRAY you never come #FAceToFAce with me. Because i will literally SKULL drag you back to where the hell you came from you low class, no talent, messy as ****, ugly huge liar BITCH. She should be BANNED from writing. like, it should be considered a felony for Marlene to be hired as a writer again.

You will NOT troll your viewers like that. You will NOT underestimate out intelligence like that. You will NOT have our minds ****ed because of your lame and inexcusably horrible writing,

CeCe being A was amazing and i wouldn't have it any other way. But THAT's what you were planning all these years? Seriously? That lame ass story? All those plot holes? All the lies? All the questions that remain unanswered that were pretty damn IMPORTANT for the show?

CeCe was a trans that wanted to succeed in life through being A? It was the only thing she was good at?
REALLYY?????? I mean, REAAAAALLY????????

And not her making the entire reveal seem like a 1950s parody short film. Like, UUUUGGH i was screaming at my TV. I was like this CANNOT BE IT.

I did NOT keep your show alive by tuning in year after year, to finally have this messy ass reveal. I needed ACTION. I needed for it to be EVENTFUL. Not me watching everything going down like im god damn ARIA in that Carassimi group building. Like **** YOU Marlene.

You owe all the PLL fans a HUGE apology for that messy ass episode.

I wanted to let all these out for so many days. Had i not be banned last week, my essay would have been 10x bigger. I kind of cooled off now.
But im still FUMING.


You know what the hell she did? She created that Charles story last year. Threw it out there. And then she let the viewers decide how everything will go down. Im pretty sure she lurks all the damn forums about the show, and found the most RIDICULOUS theory and used it at the last minute. How the heel did CeCe turn into a gril in freaking Radley? Are they experimenting with gender changes in that facility? Like, that was sooooo stupid. And to not have it explained makes it even stupider.

You know damn well you are the world's worst writer EVER when basically ALL the theories out there were 10000x times better and made much more sense and actually connected EVERYTHING.

SOmeone posted a theory about Mona being A and trying to expose CeCe(Red Coat) i dont remember who it was. well, im sticking wioth that theory. For me, that is how the whole A arc ended. Mona was A and CeCe was Red Coat.

Oh, and now that i said Red Coat. I ****ing forgot all about Shower Harvey. Like

REEEEAAAAAALLLLYYYYYY? Out of all the semi relevant characters in the show that could be Red Coat/Black Widoww. Jenna, Melissa, Paige, Maya even ****ing Syndey. You go with SHOWER HARVEY? What the **** is wrong with you?

Ugh, im so done. This season was shaping up to be kind of brilliant. I was so excited for every episode. The mystery was back, the action was back, the spark was back. And then the finale happened and it destroyed everything.

Anyways, this pretty much sums up my feelings on that GOD awful finale.

I will say that i got goosebumps though when CeCe was revealed.I was expecting that moments for so many years, you guys know i was completely behind the CeCe is A theory. I even tweeted before the finale aired that CeCe is DEFINITELY A. But that's not what i had in mind for the finale.

And Vanessa was pretty good. She makes for a believable sociopath. But her character was done SO WRONG. She should not have agreed to that.

Slay!

[Squall]

0.20 - 0.26

Why did she even try with that "flash backs are an interpretative memory" tweet?