[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy

yet it hit #1 in official charts in barely any countries... lol

she's not global.

But your faves last album, Britney Jean hit #1 in ONE country, that's what you call BARELY. Has it sold 1 million copies in it's world total?

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by lonnie

It's not just SL though
Irreplaceable which topped the U.S for 10 wks only topped four more countries

SL sold 10 million copies worldwide.

Irreplaceable was a top 10 in several countries around the world.

[QueenBeyoncé]

How come these "gloabl girls" haven't topped 111 countries on iTunes? It should be EASYYYYYYYYYYYYYY for them right? Oh.

I mean iTunes is a big deal on here right? Judging by the iTunes Discussion Thread with 5 million+ views.

[Chemist]

Originally posted by Ascension

She's not irrelevant in France considering that she is Gold there, most Western pop stars aren't heavily impacting Japan, that leaves Germany and Italy from the top 10 and those 2 combined don't even comprise 11% of the global music market.

And yet in the next breath, you'll uphold an act that is more popular in those relatively minor markets but far less relevant (and in some cases, irrelevant) in the single market that makes up a whopping 33% of the global music market share as "global" simply because of 2 or 3 additional minor markets? Like I said, this **** gets real stupid, real fast.



Ranking and coming in 3rd and 5th doesn't matter much when the top two countries alone make up more than 50% of the global market share and the remainder of said market is distributed among 18 other countries. 9% and 5% are minor shares even having chronological placement at 3rd and 5th place overall.

Wtf? you are deviating from the original argument. All this talk and my point still stands: She is not local but she's not global either

[idkher]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

SL sold 10 million copies worldwide.

Irreplaceable was a top 10 in several countries around the world.

Doesn't that 10m for SL include almost 2m in ringtone sales?

[Ascension]

Originally posted by Red Hot Moon

I'm not gonna argue with you but every current & major US Star can tour in Germany and sell out an Arena (especially when there are only 2-3 Dates announced). Even Nostalgia Acts still tour and outsell arenas in Germany because this is one of the most loyal markets. France is a difficult country to break for International artists in general since you are very picky and there's a lot of local competition.

Edit: @Ascension
The market share doesn't matter when we're discussing global success. Otherwise we could end this with..."But she's big in the biggest market 1!1!1!" as you guys usually do. And it doesn't make sense to bring up Japan as the 2nd biggest market where your fave is not a force.

Market share wasn't even initially brought up by me, yet you felt compelled to add your two cents in that exchange and now you're claiming it doesn't matter anyhow. What was the point of quoting my post giving your unsolicited opinion Germany's market share to begin with? And where did I claim that Japan was a factor aside from noting it's big yet pretty irrelevant presence in the top 10 as it pertains to most mainstream Western acts? You literally didn't type anything about Japan I didn't just type. Slay that reading comprehension tho.

[Chemist]

Top 10 markets
1. Unites States - Force
2. Japan - Irrelevant
3. Germany - Irrelevant
4. UK - Known
5. France - Known
6. Australia - Known
7. Canada - Known
8. South Korea - known
9. Brazil - Force
10. Italy - Irrelevant

You have to be at least known in all of these to be Global. Sorry!

[igninton]

'Amor Gitano' is 8xPlatinum in Spain, the remaining 16xPlatinum are for ringtones.

Still

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by Chemist

Wtf? you are deviating from the original argument. All this talk and my point still stands: She is not local but she's not global either

And that's why her GLOBAL tour and Gross has outgrossed all these "global girls" besides Madonna right? Oh. It that why she the 3rd most streamed global female artist and the MOST stream global female from the late 90/2000s era? That's why she and her music inspired a skyscraper being built in AUS right? How many "global girls" have the honor? I'll wait.

[Ascension]

Originally posted by Chemist

Wtf? you are deviating from the original argument. All this talk and my point still stands: She is not local but she's not global either

No, I'm not. And my point still stands as well: Your point is based on dumb and nonsensical parameters for gauging "global" reach based on minor European markets.

[Red Hot Moon]

Originally posted by Ascension

Market share wasn't even initially brought up by me, yet you felt compelled to add your two cents in that exchange and now you're claiming it doesn't matter anyhow. What was the point of quoting my post giving your unsolicited opinion Germany's market share to begin with? And where did I claim that Japan was a factor aside from noting it's big yet pretty irrelevant presence in the top 10 as it pertains to most mainstream Western acts? You literally didn't type anything about Japan I didn't just type. Slay that reading comprehension tho.

The fumes... you did argue that Germany (9 %) and France (5 %) don't matter because the market share of US+Japan (the 2 biggest markets) >50 %. And all of that after your fellow Hive member brought up South Korean and Spanish receipts to prove Bey's global slayage.
What's your point? Only markets where Bey is big matter in this discussion?

[Chemist]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

And that's why her GLOBAL tour and Gross has outgrossed all these "global girls" besides Madonna right? Oh. It that why she the 3rd most streamed global female artist and the MOST stream global female from the late 90/2000s era? That's why she and her music inspired a skyscraper being built in AUS right? How many "global girls" have the honor? I'll wait.

1. Her gross/date numbers are not that impressive. Lady gaga, Rihanna, Taylor Swift, P!nk, Katy Perry all have similar receipts
2. receipts/country?
3. :stop

[Ascension]

Originally posted by Red Hot Moon

The fumes... you did argue that Germany (9 %) and France (5 %) don't matter because the market share of US+Japan (the 2 biggest markets) >50 %. And all of that after your fellow Hive member brought up South Korean and Spanish receipts to prove Bey's global slayage.
What's your point? Only markets where Bey is big matter in this discussion?

My post about market share was in direct response to a claim that Germany and France had "major" shares due to being the third and fifth largest. My point simply was that the market ranking didn't matter much considering the actual represented percentages and that they were indeed still minor shares in spite of positioning in top 10 given the mammoth shares occupied by the two largest. It had nothing to do with S. Korea or Spain.

[Red Hot Moon]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

And that's why her GLOBAL tour and Gross has outgrossed all these "global girls" besides Madonna right? Oh. It that why she the 3rd most streamed global female artist and the MOST stream global female from the late 90/2000s era? That's why she and her music inspired a skyscraper being built in AUS right? How many "global girls" have the honor? I'll wait.

Queen of streams & Australian Skyscrapers . Bow down, bitches

[*-ChriZ-*]

Originally posted by Chemist

Top 10 markets
1. Unites States - Force
2. Japan - Irrelevant
3. Germany - Irrelevant
4. UK - Known
5. France - Known
6. Australia - Known
7. Canada - Known
8. South Korea - known
9. Brazil - Force
10. Italy - Irrelevant

You have to be at least known in all of these to be Global. Sorry!

Shes not irrelevant in Germany though, radio simply doesnt play her cause RnB and female HipHop is dead in German radio stations. Its simply not played. This is also precisely why BBHMM flopped in Germany even though RiRi is usually doing really well there. Thats also why Nicki Minaj is not doing anything in Germany. Bey was doing pretty good up until 4. If she ever released sth radio-friendly, I bet shes going to be successful here again. After all, she sold out here.
Beyonce can also sell out Japan, lets not act as if shes unknown there. Same goes for Italy. Like what on Earth makes u believe shes not known there?!

Some of u guys are full of **** and trolling so super hard. I answered this already two times, but gladly a third time. Bey is or is going to be a music legend, that is simply a fact. I know some of u hate this, but that is the truth. When u have that status, u are never in a million years a local act. When u are a music legend, per definition u slayed on a global scale. Why dont we speak about the fact Bey is dominating Africa and the Carribeans. Shes still dominating with her album there after almost 2 years, what about the others? Does that mean they arent global because they dont rule so much there like Bey?!
Its all nonsense and u know it. (btw, I chose the example with Africa and the Carribeans to emphasize how idiotic it is to solely go by sth like that)

[Chemist]

I like how the hive completely ignore songs like XO and Pretty Hurts (that were also released globally)

XO is pure radio candy

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by Chemist

Top 10 markets
1. Unites States - Force
2. Japan - Irrelevant
3. Germany - Irrelevant
4. UK - Known
5. France - Known
6. Australia - Known
7. Canada - Known
8. South Korea - known
9. Brazil - Force
10. Italy - Irrelevant

You have to be at least known in all of these to be Global. Sorry!

She's sold over 2 million records in Japan, sold out the Tokyo Dome.
She's sold over 14 million records in the UK and sold out the O2 12 TIMES a record at that. S
She 's sold more records in Germany than in France She sold out the Stade de France twice and sold out in 15 mins or less.

She had the biggest tour gross in Australia during her last tour only behind Pink. Her album held the #1 spot for 3 weeks str8.

She's sold 3 million records in Canada. She sold Over 12 million records in South Korea more than these global girls and has 4 million-multi million sellers, the highest selling foreign female song ever with Halo. She's sold more singles in South Korea than in the UK. A non single sold or close to selling 1 million copies.

[Red Hot Moon]

Originally posted by Ascension

My post about market share was in direct response to a claim that Germany and France had "major" shares due to being the third and fifth largest. My point simply was that the market ranking didn't matter much considering the actual represented percentages and that they were indeed still minor shares in spite of positioning in top 10 given the mammoth shares occupied by the two largest. It had nothing to do with S. Korea or Spain.

The question was whether these 2 markets are relevant or irrelevant to this discussion. Since the OP brought up stats from markets like South Korea and Spain to prove Bey's globalness, one simply cannot deny the importance of 2 major European markets. If Germany and France don't matter then South Korean and Spanish Receipts cannot prove the OP's point.

[Chemist]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

She's sold over 2 million records in Japan, sold out the Tokyo Dome.
She's sold over 14 million records in the UK and sold out the O2 12 TIMES a record at that. S
She 's sold more records in Germany than in France She sold out the Stade de France twice and sold out in 15 mins or less.

She had the biggest tour gross in Australia during her last tour only behind Pink. Her album held the #1 spot for 3 weeks str8.

She's sold 3 million records in Canada. She sold Over 12 million records in South Korea more than these global girls and has 4 million-multi million sellers, the highest selling foreign female song ever with Halo. She's sold more singles in South Korea than in the UK. A none single sold or close to selling 1 million copies.

All these past receipts

an army tea

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by Chemist

1. Her gross/date numbers are not that impressive. Lady gaga, Rihanna, Taylor Swift, P!nk, Katy Perry all have similar receipts
2. receipts/country?
3. :stop

The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour has out-GROSSED any of those girls tours and a matter of fact it is indeed the 4TH HIGHEST GROSSING GLOBAL FEMALE TOUR OF ALL TIME And toured mostly without new music supporting it.