[swissman]

Originally posted by Digitalism

Madonna, Miley and Her probably
Gaga took too many risks thats why no one care about her anymore
Katy, Taylor and Beyonce are probably the safest pop stars

Madonna by far is the riskiest.

I agree about the last sentence but for the Beyoncé part. She's not the most risky by any means but she is not in the same category of safe-ness as Katy and Taylor.

[liberalmusiclover]

Rihanna has tackled subjects like rape and murder before. Y'all know damn well she has been a risk-taker for years. Hell, releasing a songs like FourFiveSeconds and Russian Roulette as lead singles was risky.

[that G.U.Y.]

After all the protesting about violence against black people, then she releases a video where tortures and kills white people.

That's a risk tbh

[M A R C]

Originally posted by PULSE.

Oh so you can tell my emotion now? Wow, you should get that checked out, might make you rich.

It's clear you couldn't take a bit of shade.
So you got upset and started discussing Forbes.

Which has nothing to do with the thread.

[Afterglow]

Originally posted by Domination

How can she be the riskiest pop girl now when she's doing everything Gaga already did 3+ years ago? She's simply catching up.

And Madonna, and Janet a decade before.

[swissman]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

What videos did Beyoncé , Janet,and Madonna actually torture and kill while nude and with drugs involved ? I want links to the videos for each , thank you.

Specifically, no, no one has done a video with the exact same things that this did. However, many have done the same concept, even if less graphic, and this video was hardly even graphic. There is some slapstick violence and implied murder.

Just think if the situation was reversed. Wouldn't you be citing Rihanna as a touchpoint for this theme?

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by M A R C

It's clear you couldn't take a bit of shade.
So you got upset and started discussing Forbes.

Which has nothing to do with the thread.

I threw shade back, not my fault my shade was thicker and you girls couldn't take. And judging by the thread your fellow navy gorl made shows it.

[SaneBeyhannaStan]

Originally posted by swissman

Not much of what you said is a risk as much as hardships she's faced or criticisms people have had of her.

Rihanna could've gotten dropped after the performance of her first album (one hit and one flop second single). Supporting her career could've caused further debt to the Label. That was a RISK.


Rihanna had to support her own music videos at a time when her finances weren't at their best. That was a RISK. There's no guarantee Disturbia would've been as successful without a video.

She had to rely mainly on endorsements for financing for SOS video which was her first release after her underperforming second single. There was no guarantee she was going to get a number one hit in 2006.


Rihanna making songs like S&M and Man Down alienated her main audience( which at the time had already dwindled as evidenced by Rated R's chart performance despite 3 top ten hits). She was trying to get the public back on her side which a poppier, more accessible sound at the time and those songs went against that.

Rihanna taking a break was a risk she could've fallen off much harder and not been able to successfully come back and never have a hit again.


Just to remind you the definition of a Risk is "someone or something that creates or suggests a hazard"

[idkher]

Originally posted by Afterglow

And Madonna, and Janet a decade before.

Janet?

[M A R C]

Originally posted by PULSE.

I threw shade back, not my fault shade was thicker and you girls couldn't take. And judging by the thread your fellow navy gorl made shows it

Not it didn't burn.
Because she's still rich.

[SaneBeyhannaStan]

Originally posted by swissman

Specifically, no, no one has done a video with the exact same things that this did. However, many have done the same concept, even if less graphic, and this video was hardly even graphic. There is some slapstick violence and implied murder.

Just think if the situation was reversed. Wouldn't you be citing Rihanna as a touchpoint for this theme?

That posted said "it's been done" so I asked where it has exactly been done? I see no plagiarism of Bey , Janet, or Madonna here.


And girl all these artist take inspiration from others but yet Rihanna's always downplayed when she does it. Everyone else is original and edgy and groundbreaking while Rihanna isn't given any credit.

And let me also say this . I'm NOT claiming that Rihanna is the most risky female artist ever because it's not the truth. She has been one of the leading female artists in the 21st century trying to push boundaries however and she's not given any credit for it

[Domination]

Originally posted by idkher

Janet?

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by M A R C

Not it didn't burn.
Because she's still rich.

Long as you gorls caught it and felt some type of way (ur fellow navy's thread), job done.

[swissman]

Madonna is the riskiest.

She's done everything this video has touched on and more.

She released an entire book ****ographic book of herself in the 1990s after all.

She was constantly changing her image and sound.

She stirred the public with her controversial music videos and live performances.

She took on political issues at a time when the Dixie Chick's career was basically ended with one comment.

She never backs down or seems to apologize for who she is.

She has used religion as a way to express herself and also provoke.

She was an advocate of the gay community long ago.

... and so on.

[swissman]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

That posted said "it's been done" so I asked where it has exactly been done? I see no plagiarism of Bey , Janet, or Madonna here.

And girl all these artist take inspiration from others but yet Rihanna's always downplayed when she does it. Everyone else is original and edgy and groundbreaking while Rihanna isn't given any credit.

And let me also say this . I'm NOT claiming that Rihanna is the most risky female artist ever because it's not the truth. She has been one of the leading female artists in the 21st century trying to push boundaries however and she's not given any credit for it

I understand what you're saying. But also, Rihanna is not as bashed for taking inspiration from others as much as you are implying, especially in relation to those you mentioned above.

[alfonso12]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

Rihanna could've gotten dropped after the performance of her first album (one hit and one flop second single). Supporting her career could've caused further debt to the Label. That was a RISK.

Rihanna had to support her own music videos at a time when her finances weren't at their best. That was a RISK. There's no guarantee Disturbia would've been as successful without a video.

She had to rely mainly on endorsements for financing for SOS video which was her first release after her underperforming second single. There was no guarantee she was going to get a number one hit in 2006.

Rihanna making songs like S&M and Man Down alienated her main audience( which at the time had already dwindled as evidenced by Rated R's chart performance despite 3 top ten hits). She was trying to get the public back on her side which a poppier, more accessible sound at the time and those songs went against that.

Rihanna taking a break was a risk she could've fallen off much harder and not been able to successfully come back and never have a hit again.

Just to remind you the definition of a Risk is "someone or something that creates or suggests a hazard"

WAIT.

I want to put this whole post in my sig. this must have been the most delusional post I've ever read in my life.

Do you actually think that to pay for a video is a risk? Girl, Gaga payed the high-budget video for G.U.Y. and I believe Beyoncé also payed for the videos of her last album? (not sure about that).

S&M being a risk? is her most generic and radio friendly song ever, that Sexy B**tch rip off only says nanananananasnanaan come on come on naanananananana like it nananana.

And not her break (in which she released singles as featured artist) being another risk, then Christina, Shakira and Ke$ha must be the riskiest artists ever.

The navy is so funny, I love you guys.

[BadBitches]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

Rihanna could've gotten dropped after the performance of her first album (one hit and one flop second single). Supporting her career could've caused further debt to the Label. That was a RISK.

She was on a multi-album deal. She wasn't going anywhere.

[SaneBeyhannaStan]

Originally posted by swissman

I understand what you're saying. But also, Rihanna is not as bashed for taking inspiration from others as much as you are implying, especially in relation to those you mentioned above.

"She's safe","She can't take a break","She's not Beyoncé".

I'm not saying she's bashed but she's more downplayed than most of her contemporaries when she's had to prove herself for nearly a decade. She's light years from that girl in PDR as an artist but she doesn't really get any credit. All of her success isn't because of her but all if her failures and underperformances are her fault and nobody else's ?

They can't have it both ways.

[Shaliydah88]

Originally posted by swissman

Madonna is the riskiest.

She's done everything this video has touched on and more.

She released an entire book ****ographic book of herself in the 1990s after all.

She was constantly changing her image and sound.

She stirred the public with her controversial music videos and live performances.

She took on political issues at a time when the Dixie Chick's career was basically ended one comment.

She never backs down or seems to apologize for who she is.

She has used religion as a way to express herself and also provoke.

She was an advocate of the gay community long ago.

... and so on.

This.

[swissman]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

Rihanna could've gotten dropped after the performance of her first album (one hit and one flop second single). Supporting her career could've caused further debt to the Label. That was a RISK.


Rihanna had to support her own music videos at a time when her finances weren't at their best. That was a RISK. There's no guarantee Disturbia would've been as successful without a video.

She had to rely mainly on endorsements for financing for SOS video which was her first release after her underperforming second single. There was no guarantee she was going to get a number one hit in 2006.


Rihanna making songs like S&M and Man Down alienated her main audience( which at the time had already dwindled as evidenced by Rated R's chart performance despite 3 top ten hits). She was trying to get the public back on her side which a poppier, more accessible sound at the time and those songs went against that.

Rihanna taking a break was a risk she could've fallen off much harder and not been able to successfully come back and never have a hit again.


Just to remind you the definition of a Risk is "someone or something that creates or suggests a hazard"

Yes but all new artists face the same risk of having a first album fail and potentially being dropped. And she is not the only example of an artist financing their own work, nor one who relies on endorsements. In regards to S&M and Man Down, those came after two solid pop hits. She was likely only able to take those risks due to the safe choices she had already made, and S&M to me isn't risky, especially not with a Britney Spears remix. Taking a break is a risk, but that's her first risk in album release in ten years. It's not like she's consistently taking breaks.