[RatedG²]

Oh god Blue.

Obama is not seen as mixed when it comes to important issues. Miss me with the ********

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Doc

Many Africans don't even claim African-Americans as part of the same race as them,
yet throw them all in America and they're seen as one according to this society's definitions,
yet y'all still can't understand how the concept of "races" is not biological.

I think it's a cultural thing with Africans. I will tell you that most Africans who have visited Brazil feel more connected to the black people there because they maintained some level of African culture as opposed to many African Americans who adapted a culture of their own.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Doc

It IS arbitrary. There's nothing systematic about it. The phenotypes that are deemed relevant are arbitrary and change from race to race and culture to culture. The cut off points between spectrums for the relevant phenotypes are arbitrary, blurry, and very ill defined. There's absolutely nothing concrete about it. Here you have a Scandinavian child, and here you have an Italian child. Clearly they have differing phenotypes, but our society groups them all in as White. Meanwhile, our society sees these Chinese people as one race, but the Chinese view those three as three distinct races. How do you not understand how the concept of race is arbitrary?



Different butterflies are different species and therefore do not (generally) cross-breed. Gorillas are also a different species from humans. So none of that mess bares any relevance.

Again you are missing the point. The Chinese can view them as whatever they want, and the end of the day they are the same race because they share a common ancestor. There are ill-defined lines for race because people mix and reproduce together in the modern era, but we have different racial ancestors. I'm sure if black people stopped reproducing with whites, we'd eventually evolve into different species. That's how it works.

[TheSoneNavy]

I'm African, Japanese, Irish, and Scottish. What does that make me, really?

[Doc]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Obama is seen as mixed in America, so I'm sure where you are going with that one.

In America, Obama is seen as Black. While people acknowledge mixed people, mixed is barely considered a racial category and most of the times you're lumped in with one racial group or the other unless the dissonance is too strong. He will continue to be referred to as our "First Black President."

Meanwhile in other places, mixed people ARE their own distinct racial group just like Whites and Blacks and they don't get lumped in with other races.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Again you are missing the point. The Chinese can view them as whatever they want, and the end of the day they are the same race because they share a common ancestor. There are ill-defined lines for race because people mix and reproduce together in the modern era, but we have different racial ancestors. I'm sure if black people stopped reproducing with whites, we'd eventually evolve into different species. That's how it works.

we ALL share a common ancestor

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Oh god Blue.

Obama is not seen as mixed when it comes to important issues. Miss me with the ********

He is seen as mixed, you can ask anyone. People will say he is half black half white, even if people just say Black. Drake is seen as "black" but everyone knows he is mixed.

[MP2K]

Originally posted by TheSoneNavy

I'm African, Japanese, Irish, and Scottish. What does that make me, really?

One drop rule could still get you beat to a bloody pulp. Black

[Callisto.]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Again you are missing the point. The Chinese can view them as whatever they want, and the end of the day they are the same race because they share a common ancestor. There are ill-defined lines for race because people mix and reproduce together in the modern era, but we have different racial ancestors. I'm sure if black people stopped reproducing with whites, we'd eventually evolve into different species. That's how it works.

Then why haven't people in West Africa done so already?

[lonnie]

Originally posted by TheSoneNavy

I'm African, Japanese, Irish, and Scottish. What does that make me, really?

Do you have an African parent/grand parent?

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

He is seen as mixed, you can ask anyone. People will say he is half black half white, even if people just say Black. Drake is seen as "black" but everyone knows he is mixed.

According to how the U.S. defines race, both are black

[Doc]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

The Chinese can view them as whatever they want, and the end of the day they are the same race because they share a common ancestor.

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

There are ill-defined lines for race because people mix and reproduce together in the modern era, but we have different racial ancestors.

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

I'm sure if black people stopped reproducing with whites, we'd eventually evolve into different species. That's how it works.

Lord, you're beyond hope.
It's too late for this.

[lonnie]

I think y'all are mixing up ethnicity and race now

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by TheSoneNavy

I'm African, Japanese, Irish, and Scottish. What does that make me, really?

In America, black . But that's such a beautiful mix

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Doc

In America, Obama is seen as Black. While people acknowledge mixed people, mixed is barely considered a racial category and most of the times you're lumped in with one racial group or the other unless the dissonance is too strong. He will continue to be referred to as our "First Black President."

Meanwhile in other places, mixed people ARE their own distinct racial group just like Whites and Blacks and they don't get lumped in with other races.

Obama is seen as mixed, and it doesn't really matter what people call him, he is half-black half-white end of story. If I ask someone if Obama is white, the will say yes, half black half white.

[lonnie]

Why again is this even that important?

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Callisto.

Then why haven't people in West Africa done so already?

Are you serious? Has it been millions of years? How do you think Animals came to be?

[BabyCantYouSee]

Originally posted by MP2K

If you got negroid bone structure and features then bitch you have African descent

This is true. But what about some of the Arabs who do but are lighter than actual white people?

[Callisto.]

f

Will yall just let this **** die.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by RatedG²

we ALL share a common ancestor

Duh, so do we and Gorillas.