| |
-->
Discussion: Do you consider "transracial" a real term?
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 6,659
|
Doc 
The nerve of him to say ''you must be flunking your core classes  '' and ''you're poorly educated''.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 59,596
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Vespertine
I'm lowkey deceased @ some posters in here. Race being a social construct is accepted (has been for awhile) across biology, sociology, etc. Some of you are on some 19th century science bull right now. |
Right? This topic is still interesting though so I'm gonna remain perched.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 9,393
|
Quote:
Originally posted by beautiful player
But sis, analysis of genomes from around the world establishes that there is a biological basis for race, despite the official statements to the contrary of leading social science organizations. Exploration of the genome has shown that all humans, whatever their race, share the same set of genes. Each gene exists in a variety of alternative forms known as alleles, and the difference between races seems to rest on the subtle matter of relative allele frequencies.
The three principal races are Africans, East Asians, and Caucasians. In each of these races, a different set of genes has been changed by natural selection, due to different populations that had to adapt to different challenges on each continent. The genes specially affected by natural selection control not only expected traits like skin color and nutritional metabolism, but also some aspects of brain function.
Source: http://time.com/91081/what-science-s...-and-genetics/
 |
Absolute rubbish and nonsense. What kind of Comte de Buffon/ Comte de Gobineau, scientific racism teas is that foolishness.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 4,721
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Latinazza
Absolute rubbish and nonsense. What kind of Comte de Buffon/ Comte de Gobineau, scientific racism teas is that foolishness.
|
Why would Time Magazine lie?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/5/2011
Posts: 15,589
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Latinazza
lol, don't even waste your time. The nerve of that person without any real knowledge of genetics or even physical anthropology 
Some heads should go to their local public library and check out this book.
 |
No one's reading that book (or all those paragraphs up there)
-
Anyway, bottom line = If Caitlyn is a woman, Rachel is black,
Sorry!
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Doc
Race is not genetic. Genotypes are genetic. There's a clear difference.
]
Something like skin color, the primary determinant of race, varies historically due to the distance from the equator, as the first picture shows. Melanin has a high SPF which makes it useful for protection against sun, but dark skin makes it more difficult for vitamin D production. Thus, those near the equator tend to have much more melanin because sun protection is more important and the sheer amount of sun makes the concern over vitamin D production irrelevant. Those far from the equator where there is much less sun need have much less melanin because vitamin D production is far more important. But then you have people in snowy areas such as the Inuits who have slightly darker skin that Europeans because snow reflects the sun, making sun protection more important and thus more melanin production.
As the second picture shows, melanin levels do not have to exist with any other genotypes/phenotypes. It exists on a spectrum. White people historically decided to draw a cut off at certain points to designate different people (and thus associate different qualities such as good and bad with them). Hence race being a social construct.
Genotypes pertaining to skin color, eye shape, face shape, nose shape, lip size, etc can exist in all combinations and are found all over the world. There is nothing scientific about assigning certain genotypes to a "race". It just does not exist. |
Okay, and what does this prove? All Animals evolve into different species based on their environment. If a black person moves to Norway, his child is not coming out white based on the rays of the sun.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 9,393
|
Quote:
Originally posted by beautiful player
Why would Time Magazine lie?
|
It's an opinion piece. And we all know what opinions are like. The man who wrote that is not even a reputable scientist or someone with a doctorate in any valid discipline.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/4/2010
Posts: 37,894
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Damien M
No one's reading that book (or all those paragraphs up there)
-
Anyway, bottom line = If Caitlyn is a woman, Rachel is black,
Sorry! |
Ignorance is bliss.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 9,393
|
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Okay, and what does this prove? All Animals evolve into different species based on their environment. If a black person moves to Norway, his child is not coming out white based on the rays of the sun.
|
Ughhh... are people really this ignorant? Lord have mercy.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 9,393
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Doc
Ignorance is bliss.
|
So Doc, between this thread and the one about that silly woman, today I've realized that apparently the T in ATRL stands for transphobia and the R stands for Racism. Kinda wondering what the other two letters are about?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Latinazza
Ughhh... are people really this ignorant? Lord have mercy.
|
Personally insult me all you want. Regardless of whether or not race exists, if a person feels they were born with the wrong physical characteristics I don't see why you are invalidating that.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/5/2011
Posts: 15,589
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Doc
Ignorance is bliss.
|
Im sorry and I don't mean this in an offensive way but you always type up dozens of paragraphs with like, no strong points. It's OK to just say "Skin tones evolved based on their climates" and leave it at that.
Which again isn't the strongest argument considering the current world as we know it is as a result of migration. Australia is hotter than anywhere in Africa but the whitest of whites live there.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/4/2010
Posts: 37,894
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Damien M
Im sorry and I don't mean this in an offensive way but you always type up dozens of paragraphs with like, no strong points. It's OK to just say "Skin tones evolved based on their climates" and leave it at that.
Which again isn't the strongest argument considering the current world as we know it is as a result of migration. Australia is hotter than anywhere in Africa but the whitest of whites live there.
|
Australians have been living there for barely over 200 years.
Peep the skin color of aboriginals.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
|
The title of this thread is "Is trans-racial a real term?', not "Does race exist?".
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 5,341
|
Transracial is an actual term for people who are adopted by others of a different race and are unable to form their own racial identity due to not having parents of the same race.
It has nothing to do with what Rachel Dolezal is claiming.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 2/2/2014
Posts: 11,642
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Obsession
Transracial is an actual term for people who are adopted by others of a different race and are unable to form their own racial identity due to not having parents of the same race.
It has nothing to do with what Rachel Dolezal is claiming. |
Peep the disclaimer
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/5/2011
Posts: 15,589
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Doc
Australians have been living there for barely over 200 years.
Peep the skin color of aboriginals.
|
Which was exactly my point (I said there's too much migration/mixing in the world for that chart to be valid. No one lives in their original habitat)
Besides, if race is just a figment of our imagination (as you said in one of those paragraphs), does that mean we can pick and choose to be whatever race we want? Cuz it essentially, doesn't exist.
|
|
|
|
ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 9/22/2011
Posts: 16,128
|
No, what the hell? 
I would need some concrete proof of its medical validity before I take this concept seriously. And that's not going to happen.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/8/2014
Posts: 6,940
|
No. Maybe in America. We don't have such problems in Europe. All races are living in peace but this is the first time that I heard that someone wants to change his race. Transracial is not a thing.
"Race, Monogamy and the other lies they told you" lol. What's wrong with Monogamy? Why are you Americans so hypersexualized? There are some social norms that are important and they will never go away.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
|
Beautiful Liar serving eugenics in this thread.
|
|
|
|
|
|
