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Discussion: Do you consider "transracial" a real term?
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The transphobia in this thread is disgusting.
BlueTimberwolf is the worst though, like a serious disgusting **** so i'm not surprised.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Race is not genetic. Trust me I took many courses on it (as my major is Molecular Biology)  |
Gosh, you must be flunking your core classes then
Anyway, you don't need a molecular biology degree to know that certain phenotypical traits are linked to certain races, irrespective. Skin tone, the shape of your nose, hair type, eye color, etc.
You don't see Nigerian men walking around with blue eyes and blonde hair, do you?
Race IS genetic.
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I think this is obviously not a matter of fact. I mean as far as medicinal and lawful recognition of transexuals, it's only been 40/50 years. The majority of people would've denied the need of sensitively addressing the concept as early back as 20 or so years ago. The same mindset a lot of you have regarding the potentially very real issue of "transracials" is similar to the closemindedness that has slowed the progress regarding LGBT rights. (Not addressing those who are being constructive in sharing their opinions, but rather those who are condescending in their "arguments")
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Originally posted by Damien M
Gosh, you must be flunking your core classes then
Anyway, you don't need a molecular biology degree to know that certain phenotypical traits are linked to certain races, irrespective. Skin tone, the shape of your nose, hair type, eye color, etc.
You don't see Nigerian men walking around with blue eyes and blonde hair, do you?
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girl don't try me and my 3.6 GPA
Race is NOT genetic. You can't pinpoint certain genes that only some races have, it's not possible. Yes races tend to have some characteristics that are similar but other races have those same characteristics (just in lower percentages). For example, skin tone. You have asians who have skin as dark as someone who's a very dark skinned black. Or you have some black people (especially in North Africa) who have bone straight hair
Don't come for me unless you read a damn book on genetics you sound real dumb right now
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Originally posted by beautiful player
If race has no relation to genetics, why do black people have black kids with physical traits that stereotypically only black people have? Excuse my ignorance, I'm not a Molecular Biologist.
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Most of the time it's true but that doesn't explain why some black people have kids who are...literally white (blue eyes, blonde, straight hair) etc. It's not genetic
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This **** is tew much
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Originally posted by RatedG²
girl don't try me and my 3.6 GPA
Race is NOT genetic. You can't pinpoint certain genes that only some races have, it's not possible. Yes races tend to have some characteristics that are similar but other races have those same characteristics (just in lower percentages). For example, skin tone. You have asians who have skin as dark as someone who's a very dark skinned black. Or you have some black people (especially in North Africa) who have bone straight hair
Don't come for me unless you read a damn book on genetics you sound real dumb right now
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So what determines the percentages if not genetics?
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Originally posted by beautiful player
So explain to me, why are all native Nigerians/Congolese people black? Surely the traits that qualify them to be classified as Negroid must have passed down from their parents?
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They're classified as black because that's what society sees them as. Being black is not a thing proven genetically
It's just they all tend to show the same characteristics phenotypically because they all happen to live in the same part of the planet.
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Originally posted by Vespertine
You do know that seeing different races as particular biological distinctions is like, super archaic/debunked science, right?
Let me put it this way:
Someone has a penis and testicles. You can be almost entirely positive their biological sex is male (XY chromosome makeup).
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Someone has dark brown skin. Are they black? Are they Asian? You don't know, because dark brown skin is not tied to any one race. Because there are no genes that definitively code for black or Asian. All we have is a grouping of physical traits that society has decided denotes "black."
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What about people born with ambiguous genitalia?
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I'm lowkey deceased @ some posters in here. Race being a social construct is accepted (has been for awhile) across biology, sociology, etc. Some of you are on some 19th century science bull right now.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
girl don't try me and my 3.6 GPA
Race is NOT genetic. You can't pinpoint certain genes that only some races have, it's not possible. Yes races tend to have some characteristics that are similar but other races have those same characteristics (just in lower percentages). For example, skin tone. You have asians who have skin as dark as someone who's a very dark skinned black. Or you have some black people (especially in North Africa) who have bone straight hair
Don't come for me unless you read a damn book on genetics you sound real dumb right now
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Umm majority of Indians ARE dark skinned, it's not some eureka moment like you think it is.
And people from North Africa (Libyans, Egyptians etc) are NOT black. They're closer to Arab if anything. So the bone straight hair thing = rubbish.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
So what determines the percentages if not genetics?
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It IS genetics that determines those percentages but not all people of that race will have those characteristics
You can't say that someone is black based on genetics though. There's not a single gene that codes for "black" it just doesn't exist. Same for any other race
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Originally posted by RatedG²
It IS genetics that determines those percentages but not all people of that race will have those characteristics
You can't say that someone is black based on genetics though. There's not a single gene that codes for "black" it just doesn't exist. Same for any other race
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But then we are back to the original argument. What happens when a person no longer identifies with their characteristics, regardless of what race society categorizes them as?
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Most of the time it's true but that doesn't explain why some black people have kids who are...literally white (blue eyes, blonde, straight hair) etc. It's not genetic
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Because of the mutations in DNA structures.
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Originally posted by Damien M
Umm majority of Indians ARE dark skinned, it's not some eureka moment like you think it is.
And people from North Africa (Libyans, Egyptians etc) are NOT black. They're closer to Arab if anything. So the bone straight hair thing = rubbish.
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Girl open a ****ing textbook for the last time.
People from North Africa are considered black so stop the nonsense. However you can't prove that because there's nothing in their genes that code for it
I am so done if you aren't using basic research skills (hell open up Google!) then this isn't going to work out.
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I've always wished to be white tbh.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Girl open a ****ing textbook for the last time.
People from North Africa are considered black so stop the nonsense. However you can't prove that because there's nothing in their genes that code for it
I am so done if you aren't using basic research skills (hell open up Google!) then this isn't going to work out.
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Northern Africans (Libyans, Morrocans and Egyptians) are NOT black, don't be silly.
This conversation is over. You're poorly-educated and unexposed.
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I'm "poorly educated"
 woo let me not blow this thread up.
All I will say is that you look really foolish right now like how the **** do you not use Google if you don't have the necessary knowledge to know race isn't genetic
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Originally posted by RatedG²
I'm "poorly educated"
woo let me not blow this thread up.
All I will say is that you look really foolish right now like how the **** do you not use Google if you don't have the necessary knowledge to know race isn't genetic |
lol, don't even waste your time. The nerve of that person without any real knowledge of genetics or even physical anthropology 
Some heads should go to their local public library and check out this book.
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Originally posted by Damien M
Gosh, you must be flunking your core classes then
Anyway, you don't need a molecular biology degree to know that certain phenotypical traits are linked to certain races, irrespective. Skin tone, the shape of your nose, hair type, eye color, etc.
You don't see Nigerian men walking around with blue eyes and blonde hair, do you?
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Race is not genetic. Genotypes are genetic. There's a clear difference.
Something like skin color, the primary determinant of race, varies historically due to the distance from the equator, as the first picture shows. Melanin has a high SPF which makes it useful for protection against sun, but dark skin makes it more difficult for vitamin D production. Thus, those near the equator tend to have much more melanin because sun protection is more important and the sheer amount of sun makes the concern over vitamin D production irrelevant. Those far from the equator where there is much less sun need have much less melanin because vitamin D production is far more important. But then you have people in snowy areas such as the Inuits who have slightly darker skin that Europeans because snow reflects the sun, making sun protection more important and thus more melanin production.
As the second picture shows, melanin levels do not have to exist with any other genotypes/phenotypes. It exists on a spectrum. White people historically decided to draw a cut off at certain points to designate different people (and thus associate different qualities such as good and bad with them). Hence race being a social construct.
Genotypes pertaining to skin color, eye shape, face shape, nose shape, lip size, etc can exist in all combinations and are found all over the world. There is nothing scientific about assigning certain genotypes to a "race". It just does not exist.
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