[Tylerbv]

poor ci

[mariahcarey]

Ciara!!!!!!!!!!!!



I thought she would sell about 40 - 50k!

She is gonna get dragged for this!

[Flare]

Originally posted by qurl

clearly it ain't that damn loyal

what you not gon do is drag K. Michelle into this when ABWAH is simply a better album.. also there's the whole K. Michelle actually having a great voice thing but that's not always needed for success

I think this album is reflective that pop isn't Ciara's greatest strength. She had a huge R&B based hit two years ago and made a very R&B/hip hop infused album; that's they key to her strength. This generic electropop **** that comprises more than half of the album isn't for her, but I guess she had to learn that for herself

It's not even all of that. Ciara could have done 70k to 100k fw if the album catered to her loyal audiences in Urban, had another Body Party type hit as lead and a strong uptempo followup leading into the release week. Urban is loyal to her and she tried to leave them for pop this era. As far as the GP is concerned, this is her first pop era and obviously they aren't going to check for it if they only her I Bet (a r&b song) on the TODAY show

If you're going to have a pop era, you need to push pop singles and pop live performances not a urban song. It's literally that simple. Had Dance Like We're Making Love been the first single (same circumstances with lack of promo), it would be crossing over to pop around now and smashing on urban and rhythmic, she would probably luck into that 50k to 70k range.

The only person to blame for this is her management/Epic. The only way they can fix this is by helping the era along by pushing her aggressively on pop radio and getting her payola in hopes she becomes a pop act now. If they scrape this era, it becomes a bigger loss, Dr.Luke ain't cheap.

Also, it doesn't help the album itself isn't all that good at all. There's a few standout pop tracks. The rest is pure filler. She should have done a Ciara part 2 with a balance of R&B where those filler tracks are and the album would have slayed the reviews and sales.

EDIT: And I thought the album would sell 10k to 15k so I'm surprised she has a chance at doubling that.

[BlooRiverAnimal]

Originally posted by SneakerNerd

I think I hear the Navy coming for Marvin's neck.

[EBT]

[Airhead]

5 million on IG.
6 million on twitter

but only selling 19k

She should tweet the link to itunes or something.

[Guero]

Originally posted by Airhead

5 million on IG.
6 million on twitter

but only selling 19k

She should tweet the link to itunes or something.

Having a lot of followers rarely leads to a lot of sales.

[liberalmusiclover]

Originally posted by Airhead

5 million on IG.
6 million on twitter

but only selling 19k

She should tweet the link to itunes or something.

She should've told Kim Kardashian to tweet a link or something.

[Flare]

Originally posted by Guero

Having a lot of followers rarely leads to a lot of sales.

+1
Followers only want to see you look sexy not support you, your passion or craft.

[ItsJim]

Originally posted by Airhead

5 million on IG.
6 million on twitter

but only selling 19k

She should tweet the link to itunes or something.

What kind of logic??

[IStanHard]

This is beyond tragic
Marvin sis

[Javan]

Originally posted by Flare

It's not even all of that. Ciara could have done 70k to 100k fw if the album catered to her loyal audiences in Urban, had another Body Party type hit as lead and a strong uptempo followup leading into the release week. Urban is loyal to her and she tried to leave them for pop this era. As far as the GP is concerned, this is her first pop era and obviously they aren't going to check for it if they only her I Bet (a r&b song) on the TODAY show

If you're going to have a pop era, you need to push pop singles and pop live performances not a urban song. It's literally that simple. Had Dance Like We're Making Love been the first single (same circumstances with lack of promo), it would be crossing over to pop around now and smashing on urban and rhythmic, she would probably luck into that 50k to 70k range.

The only person to blame for this is her management/Epic. The only way they can fix this is by helping the era along by pushing her aggressively on pop radio and getting her payola in hopes she becomes a pop act now. If they scrape this era, it becomes a bigger loss, Dr.Luke ain't cheap.

Also, it doesn't help the album itself isn't all that good at all. There's a few standout pop tracks. The rest is pure filler. She should have done a Ciara part 2 with a balance of R&B where those filler tracks are and the album would have slayed the reviews and sales.

I'm sorry you can't blame Epic for this. She has been given plenty of televised promo oppurtunities! Plenty! It's pretty clear that Ciara is calling the shots in her career. No label is gonna sit down and listen to I Bet and say "yes this is our lead single" knowing full well nothing sounding like it has smashed anywhere since like 2004. Ciara chose that single sorry, we will not pass the buck on this one!

[Truth Teller]

She's still going to make more money for her label (and herself) than all their other artists minus Meghan and 5H did combined, thanks to her tour. So, she's fine. It's their fault anywhere. She needed 2 singles, 2 videos and promo.

[IStanHard]

Originally posted by ItsJim

What kind of logic??

Living up to his name

[Flare]

Originally posted by Javan

I'm sorry you can't blame Epic for this. She has been given plenty of televised promo oppurtunities! Plenty! It's pretty clear that Ciara is calling the shots in her career. No label is gonna sit down and listen to I Bet and say "yes this is our lead single" knowing full well nothing sounding like it has smashed anywhere since like 2004. Ciara chose that single sorry, we will not pass the buck on this one!

I'm not entertaining your mess because you've been hating on her all era in the I Bet and Jackie threads. Nothing you say is a fact. All stan, biased, delusions. Sorry!

[qurl]

Originally posted by Flare

She should have done a Ciara part 2 with a balance of R&B where those filler tracks are and the album would have slayed the reviews and sales.

I DEFINITELY agree, like obviously the sales increase from Basic Instinct to Ciara should have told her she was doing something right that she did wrong last time and that the safest bet for success would be to continue that trend

I was really hoping we were gonna be getting Ciara 2.0 sonically as well, and it's even more of a missed opportunity because usually when people go through break ups they write some of their most profound and emotionally invested material but 'I Bet' is the only song on the album that really demonstrates that....... seems like such a squandered opportunity for her to display her artistry I really wanted more from her

[leon86]

And that is sincerely ciara

[Javan]

I wonder if Ciara saw this coming. Because she's been awfully nonchalant. Like she keeps talking about how she wants to be successful for her baby but when the red flags popped up that this era would flop, I didnt see one change of pace or attitude. Delusions of grandeur maybe? Idk she's so weird to me. Like she's in her own little bubble. But as long as she's happy I guess

Originally posted by ChrisRTW

The mods listened and gave you warning points.

Already sorted.

[Flare]

Originally posted by qurl

I DEFINITELY agree, like obviously the sales increase from Basic Instinct to Ciara should have told her she was doing something right that she did wrong last time and that the safest bet for success would be to continue that trend

I was really hoping we were gonna be getting Ciara 2.0 sonically as well, and it's even more of a missed opportunity because usually when people go through break ups they write some of their most profound and emotionally invested material but 'I Bet' is the only song on the album that really demonstrates that....... seems like such a squandered opportunity for her to display her artistry I really wanted more from her

All of this tbh especially the bold!

[Mark Rih]

Originally posted by Cannabis

She's doing this numbers with just ONE VIDEO and one month of promo, can't wait for R8's numbers with 4 singles and x4 of promo she will do like 20K more than Jackie the beyonce's puppet just can't win

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