[Giorgoc]

Originally posted by Fruity

Humanity does not speak for the whole Navy. The songs are not "bad", just polarising, and certainly not what anyone expected to relaunch her music after a 2+ year break. Its a big change up, not typical single material, not smashes.

And sorry but the difference is Gaga was having meltdowns about her chart success and comparing herself to Katy whereas Rih clearly gives not even two ****s.

True, the songs really aren't what ppl expected.

Gaga was having meltdowns because her damn manager left her right before she released her album and everyone was bashing her, media, fans, haters etc. The Katy comparison was not a meltdown, it fit with the DWUW theme and was used for promo.

Besides, having a meltdown shows how connected she is to her art, and vulnerable. Rih's a hit making FACTORY, she's not writing her stuff, she's not feeling her stuff.

I'd rather have my fave be a raw, emotional mess after writing her music than going on vacation and never bothering as if it weren't her music to begin with.

[Bounce]

Originally posted by HumanitySector

And FFS is already doing that. So what's the point of this thread then?

Point of this thread BBHMM failing to outpeak DWUW and debuting with the same number as Venus and AO2 debuting with less #s than Venus and Dope the promo singles

[NewRihannaStan]

Originally posted by Giorgoc

So Gaga released a worse album and flopped while Rih released a better album and flopped. Dunno which is worse tbh.

RR 1.0-1.3 3 WW
Artpop 700k barley 2 million WW

Who really flopped

[- JED -]

Originally posted by little legend

what a reverse warholian experience?

Truly

[Giorgoc]

Originally posted by halcyonday

Don't start it. What does this have with Kats

I'm not "starting" anything. Having members of a certain fanbase gang-up on Gaga for no reason is transparent and ridiculous. Not talking about you, obviously.

[Marvin]

I think so

[Bounce]

Humanity did you made this also?

[SupahBass05]

Originally posted by HumanitySector

I guess they reread POP EMERGENCY thread so they must be in their feels.

Ugh

Can't wait for the R8 one.

[OurLuckyStrike]

[Giorgoc]

Originally posted by idkher

Lies, Gaga was out promoting and she was trying her hardest to get media attention with the constant feuds, controversial performances and Twitter meltdowns. Rihanna has been in Hawaii doing nothing but uploading things on Snapchat for what seems like weeks.

Constant feuds? You mean the DWUW promo? lol.

Controversial Performances? You mean SXSW AFTER the multi-month blackout? lol.

Twitter meltdowns? You mean with Perez who stalked her? lol.

[Bang Up]

Yes, R8 is doing way worse than ARTPOP did and it's a big kii considering how the Navy acted back then, but I don't like using "karma" because it implies popstars suffer because of what their dumb stans say and do, and that's not fair.

[Giorgoc]

Originally posted by HumanitySector

And FFS is already doing that. So what's the point of this thread then?

Doing what? Outselling Applause? Gaga's weakest lead single from her FLOP album? (not in the US btw) Congrats I guess?

[little legend]

Originally posted by Bounce

Humanity did you made this also?

give him a break

[Bounce]

Originally posted by Bang Up

Yes, R8 is doing way worse than ARTPOP did and it's a big kii considering how the Navy acted back then, but I don't like using "karma" because it implies popstars suffer because of what their dumb stans say and do, and that's not fair.

I remember all the threads

[idkher]

Originally posted by Giorgoc

Constant feuds? You mean the DWUW promo? lol.

Controversial Performances? You mean SXSW AFTER the multi-month blackout? lol.

Twitter meltdowns? You mean with Perez who stalked her? lol.

The attempted Katy rivalry, the meltdowns about Perez and their public feud

The AMA performance, SNL performance and SXSW were all attempts at being controversial.

[M A R C]

Originally posted by 2014

1.)No, we were expecting 400k-600k

2.) Rihanna will struggle to go gold

3.) Stay pressed

I'm screaming at these predictions.

You monsters are really embarrassing yourselves.
Y'all want people to flop harder than ARTPOP to make you feel better and heal up your wounds.

[Giorgoc]

Originally posted by NewRihannaStan

RR 1.0-1.3 3 WW
Artpop 700k barley 2 million WW

Who really flopped

Gurl Rated R sold 3m while others were selling like 10m. Artpop sold 2m while THE QUEEN OF POP Katy sold 3.5m.

If ARTPOP is a flop, Rater R is an even bigger flop. You can't compare a 2009 album to a 2013 one without context.

[J a y]

Originally posted by daking17

This battlefield

I don't even understand the purpose of this thread.

Gaga's touring with Tony Bennett and Rihanna's on holiday in Hawaii.



Is this ARTPOP vs R8 or ARTPOP vs Rated R? Cos a few of us mentioned Rated R during ARTPOP's era (even Sats made the time to post) and y'all decided that it's now worth comparing and actually, ARTPOP's sales aren't bad at all. OK.

Not sure what a flop is at this point.

[Bounce]

Originally posted by idkher

The attempted Katy rivalry, the meltdowns about Perez and their public feud

The AMA performance, SNL performance and SXSW were all attempts at being controversial.

ARTPOP era was a mess, we know this but what it messiness has to do with FFS peaking the same as Applause, BBHMM failing to outpeak DWUW and AO2 selling less than Venus and Dope?

[Bounce]

Originally posted by Giorgoc

Gurl Rated R sold 3m while others were selling like 10m. Artpop sold 2m while THE QUEEN OF POP Katy sold 3.5m.

If ARTPOP is a flop, Rater R is an even bigger flop. You can't compare a 2009 album to a 2013 one without context.

Brutal