[Six]

I actually started using Spotify after all this TIDAL mess.

Btw, what kinda pretentious name is TiDAL ? Ew.

[umich]

Can TIDAL provide us with daily charts like Spotify does? I'd like to see their numbers.

[6_INCH_HEELS]

I feel like people aren't giving it enough time to grow. With that being said, their marketing and roll out has been ******. As a casual consumer seeing this, I don't know how they can't possibly see this. Maybe marketing how they want to make more money from this wasn't the best idea either.

[Jezang Looz]

None of us were surprised. And by none of us I mean those that aren't defending TIdal out of sheer brand loyalty.

I actually uninstalled Spotify months ago but re-installed it after this Tidal mess. I don't see them ever becoming a relevant streaming service. Ever.

[Ghostlysnaker]

[elliotis19]

Originally posted by Aatthew

I said what I said.

And, with that being said, I'll leave y'all to drag TIDAL. Y'all got the confirmation y'all so badly wanted to hate it, what they stand for, the people behind it, etc. There's no point in me trying to explain why I feel the way I do.

I am not a supporter of TIDAL because it is poorly managed and has not been sold well to the buying public.

I have every reason to want to see it succeed (in principle):



But it's just not there.

[Almighty Gaga]

Two weeks after Tidal briefly cracked the U.S. iPhone top 20 download chart, the app has crashed out of the top 700.

An American Oxygen-sized mess.

[Javan]

Originally posted by AHemsworth

I feel like people aren't giving it enough time to grow. With that being said, their marketing and roll out has been ******. As a casual consumer seeing this, I don't know how they can't possibly see this. Maybe marketing how they want to make more money from this wasn't the best idea either.

Tis is all Alicia's fault. The ball was in her park.

[Miguel.]

I have both services. I prefer Spotify because I have been using their services for about 2 years. Tidal might have a little bit more quality when it comes to their music but I can hardly stream their music at all on my phone.

[DG1]

I knew TIDAL was gonna be a damn mess and flop. They really didn't think this through thoroughly.

[Latinazza]

Poor them. Their pricing was not properly justified during the broadcast. They simply did not seem to portray a sincere interest for customers/fans or artists who are not part of the elite investors. It's no surprise that people are not subscribing.

It's nice that Spotify has actually gained more customers, but they seriously need to address the way that they compensate musicians. There was some recent Billboard article showing how little they are paid (in that case it was based on some tweets by a member of Portishead), even after millions of streams.

[RudeBoyy]

This is so embarrassing for everyone involved. Hopefully this can rebound, because it seems like a PR nightmare and a failure of an investment for Jay Z and all involved.

[marajxgrant]

when it first was introduced to the US, Spotify "flopped" as well. No one had it until like 2013.

[elliotis19]

Originally posted by Latinazza

Poor them. Their pricing was not properly justified during the broadcast. They simply did not seem to portray a sincere interest for customers/fans or artists who are not part of the elite investors. It's no surprise that people are not subscribing.

It's nice that Spotify has actually gained more customers, but they seriously need to address the way that they compensate musicians. There was some recent Billboard article showing how little they are paid (in that case it was based on some tweets by a member of Portishead), even after millions of streams.

Very well-stated. Complete agreement with all of this.

[Cap10Planet]

What they didn't understand is that NO ONE cares about the artist, songwriter or people behind the scenes. If they did, illegal downloading and free streaming wouldn't be a thing. Instead of telling the people how it benefits the artists, writers and others behind the scenes, tell them how it benefits the consumer. You would think a BUSINESSMAN like Jay-Z would know this. A Steve Jobs wannabe TRAGEDY.

[NEUTRON]

Originally posted by FAME.

Not Tidal actually pushing consumers to buy OTHER services even more
I knew this would happen

They're not buying anything dumbass. They're using free services that make money off advertisements. NOT THE SAME THING.

[StephenNYMonster]

Oops. Tehe.

[Iman]

Originally posted by AHemsworth

Maybe marketing how they want to make more money from this wasn't the best idea either.

nnn, this. they had several promo spots during the ncaa championship game watched by 30 mil and all of them were the shorten version of the meeting. like, the gp doesnt give a damn whether you're underpaid

they could've done a really cool commercial

[elliotis19]

Originally posted by NEUTRON

They're not buying anything dumbass. They're using free services that make money off advertisements. NOT THE SAME THING.

Wow. Is the name calling necessary?

Some people do subscribe to Pandora and Spotify premium services believe it or not.

[Jezang Looz]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

What they didn't understand is that NO ONE cares about the artist, songwriter or people behind the scenes. If they did, illegal downloading and free streaming wouldn't be a thing. Instead of telling the people how it benefits the artists, writers and others behind the scenes, tell them how it benefits the consumer. You would think a BUSINESSMAN like Jay-Z would know this. A Steve Jobs wannabe TRAGEDY.

I've been saying that in every Tidal thread since day 1. I hope this teaches them a lesson about business plans. The first rule in economy is Supply and Demand.

Ain't no one in their right mind wants to pay for streaming music when they can legally do that for free. Jay-Z is a damn fool and so is everyone else that signed that contract during the livestream. You'd think they'd know better