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TV Show: American Idol 8: KRIS ALLEN
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I really really cant wait now who is Kworb's next "best singer in the mankind"
The excitement is killing me 
....Ohhh, where is PIMPLES? 
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betrayer. You jump ship whenever your fave is losing.  |
What are you talking about?
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Member Since: 8/15/2008
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Originally posted by ashuduff
Okay Aries.
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^ Linnen is Aries 
Anyway, the AI tour should be amazing <33
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Originally posted by JM4ever
I really really cant wait now who is Kworb's next "best singer in the mankind"
The excitement is killing me |
We have found the best singer in all of human history. There's no need to look any further.
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Member Since: 10/5/2006
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Originally posted by gracee
^ Linnen is Aries
Anyway, the AI tour should be amazing <33 |
I wish they came to Singapore!
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Originally posted by Kworb
What are you talking about? |
"I hope Kris wins"
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Member Since: 6/30/2007
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@Kworb: What happen to Blake Lewis? 
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Originally posted by ashuduff
"I hope Kris wins"
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I felt like he deserved it more based on the last two weeks, with all the producer sabotage, and Adam having no stellar performances at all. It was simply how I felt after watching the top 2 performance show. But looking at the entire season and considering Adam's immeasurable talent, there's no doubt he should've won.
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Adam is doing his thing on iTunes 
His version of Mad World will probably be top 10 next week 
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Member Since: 8/2/2006
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Originally posted by CxMxPUNK
Kris is the worst winner ever. Or second worst behind Taylor Hicks. He won because of 30 million redneck Arkansas votes.
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STFU. Not all of the population of Arkansas is a redneck, trust me on that. If that were the case, then Adam could have easily taken the crown. Isn't he from California ...
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Member Since: 9/19/2008
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Originally posted by ashuduff
betrayer. You jump ship whenever your fave is losing. |
^ 1 million, what a shame. look at all the excuses  shame.
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Member Since: 9/19/2008
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Originally posted by mariah_4life
STFU. Not all of the population of Arkansas is a redneck, trust me on that. If that were the case, then Adam could have easily taken the crown. Isn't he from California ...
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Californian aint care about Idol sh!t this year.
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Member Since: 12/20/2006
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Originally posted by Reeces
Adam is doing his thing on iTunes
His version of Mad World will probably be top 10 next week |
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Member Since: 1/14/2007
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I'm more concerned that the song from the show Glee is number 1. Are you kidding me? Anyway I'm happy to see both Kris and Adam in the top 10. I'm even more happy to see 1 Adam and 1 Kris performance in front of the new terrible single that they forced Kris to release.
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Originally posted by cooksgenes
Californian aint care about Idol sh!t this year.
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They should if they have one of their very own people in the top 2 ...
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Member Since: 9/19/2008
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Last night’s finale ratings were down from last season:
Fox’s “American Idol” wrapped its eighth season with huge numbers Wednesday night, although the music megahit was down more than 10% in demos vs. last year and is expected to come in with its lowest in-season finale ratings to date. The preliminary numbers are a bit murky due to the show’s irregular running time (8-10:07 p.m.), but “Idol” likely averaged about 29 million viewers, off from last year’s 31.7 million.
Even in a slightly depressed state, however, the “Idol” finale — in which 23-year-old Arkansas native Kris Allen was revealed as the winner — was easily the top-rated program of the May sweep. It also drew roughly three times the demo score of the next highest-rated program on Wednesday, the season finale of “Criminal Minds” on CBS.
For fun, Seasons 5 and 6:
Season 6 - 30.7 million
Season 5 - 36.3 million
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Kris Allen cant even go to the top spot (last year David Cook's coronation song and the live versions of his performances went straight to #1, 2, 3 and 4 within 6 hours after released, followed by David Archuleta, and they stayed there for a whole week)
SEASON 8 = FAILURE
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Member Since: 1/21/2008
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Jim David: Adam Lambert Loses, Homophobia Wins
The best singer didn't win a freaking singing contest.
When Kris Allen defeated Adam Lambert as the Season 8 "American Idol," it was, as predicted, a seismic upset. The Chicago Sun-Times said, "David slayed Goliath." Endless bloggers posted reactions like "The biggest robbery since Bush stole the election" and "The end of American Idol's last hope at relevance."
Everyone, from the judges to Google to Yahoo to the Vegas odds makers, predicted a Lambert victory. They were right, and everyone knows it. In the end homophobia won, and everyone knows it.
Yes, homophobia is alive and well, which is why Lambert lost the ultimate title. Go ahead -- give me another reason. Yes, Lambert is over the top and screams a lot and is campier than Liberace at Radio City. Sure, Kris Allen is a cutie, and has pleasant enough vocals, and he's nice. But a better singer, or performer, than Lambert? Please.
By anyone's estimation, Lambert was the best vocalist of the entire Idol season and one of the best, if not the best, in the history of the program. He towered over every contestant, exposing them as the amateurs they are. Every Lambert performance was an event. If this competition were only about singing, he crushed everyone else the second he walked onstage.
Kris Allen is a very affable and attractive young man. He is a decent vocalist with a very limited range and marginal talents. He should have made it to 3rd place at best. Time will tell if he reaches the level of John Mayer or Jack Johnson.
The final round, if vocals were the actual standard, should have been Lambert and Allison Iraheta, the precocious 17 year old with the whisky crusted Janis Joplin voice. But vocals, as evidenced by this and other Idol seasons, are not the final standard. In the end, a 'likeability' factor intrudes, turning 'Idol' into the Miss America Pageant or, more realistically, the high school Homecoming coronation.
Melinda Doolittle lost to Jordin Sparks. Chris Daughtry lost to Taylor Hicks. Jennifer Hudson lost to ... anyone. It's a real shame that Idol is decided by the public and not just music professionals, because let's face it, the voting public is not that bright. The public voted George W. Bush twice as president. The public thinks Halliburton is Liz Taylor and Richard Burton's daughter. The public votes on who they want to 'hang out' with.
In that event, Allen won by a landslide. Lambert hangs out with kinky L.A. theatre folk who dress wierd, stay out all night, and possibly do drugs and get into compromising positions. Allen hangs out at a local Arkansas bar, has a beer or two, strums a song, and then goes home to wedded Christian bliss. (Of course, I'd rather hang with Lambert's crowd. How much fun do you think they are? Are you kidding?)
If the contestants had zero backstory, Lambert would have decimated the competition. Instead, Allen's Christianity, church roots and corn-fed wife were exploited, as were Lambert's musical theatre roots (i.e. his 'theatre ***' history). He didn't say a word about his sexuality, but didn't need to. For that we had the Internet, zapping anyone's private photo library to the world, so photos of Lambert swapping saliva with a guy went viral, as well as a lot of his very strange yet riveting LA cabaret performances, turning off the homophobic majority.
Yes, a majority of the country is homophobic. If it weren't, gays would have had their rights back in the 90s when the Europeans got them. We wouldn't have a majority of states with a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. We wouldn't be fighting for even rudimentary domestic partnership laws in some cities and states. We wouldn't have anti-gay imbeciles like Maggie Gallagher, Peter LaBarbera, Matt Barber or the "God Hates ****" morons getting publicity. Yep, if American weren't homophobic, Lambert would be waving to the crowds from a convertible.
Bill O'Reilly, a homophobe who knows what plays to his old white guy audience, did at least two features on Lambert's sexuality, creating an issue where none needed exist. He first brought up the Internet photos of Lambert kissing a guy and asked if this would be a "problem" for America, an America who might not have even thought about it until O'Reilly brought it up. And right before the Idol finale he brought on Newsweek's Ramin Setoodeh, author of an article about the "Christian vote" going to Allen, again planting a seed in a public who might not previously have thought of it. O'Reilly is a skilled propagandist, warning us against the evils of the secular world before they even entered our minds. And Steoodeh wrote, post 'Idol," about reasons why Lambert may have lost, neglecting to mention how he himself may have contributed.
I'm sorry a simple musical theatre actor from California and a simple guitar strummer from Arkansas have to bear this cultural burden, but there it is. Despite Allen's pleading that "It's about music, it's not about religion and all that kind of stuff," it is indeed about religion and all that kind of stuff. Danny Gokey's pastor Twittered, "We need a believer to represent." Even Rev. Ted Haggard, the most frightened homosexual in America, Twittered that he wanted Allen to win. A Lambert win would have scared the bejeezus out of him.
Conservatives are all still stinging from their defeat at the polls in November. They wanted something to take home. They couldn't possibly let a guy who wears eyeliner and nail polish win, no matter how astoundingly talented he is.
It is to Lambert's credit and astounding talent that he got this far, and the media sensation he has created ensures him a very exciting post-Idol career. He's a phenomenon who has earned every bit of ink he has created. He made 'Idol" relevant again. His outrageous performances woke up a sleeping audience.
And he made, without really trying, a great leap for gays in America. The American public learned his sexuality early on and still voted for him into the finals, even if they were too scared to give him the ultimate prize. But they obviously had their limits. Perhaps if he hadn't sung his finale "Mad World" performance in that 'Basketball Diaries' cloak, which made us fear he was a misunderstood youth about to pull out a semiautomatic and open fire on the tweens in the mosh pit, he would have won.
Even Kris Allen, at the end, said, "Adam deserves this. I'm sorry." It's Allen who will have to endure the publicity of how it really should have been Lambert up there. He's a nice guy and doesn't deserve it. He should enjoy his victory. But he was competing against Goliath, and these things happen. David himself would have had to deal with the fallout.
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Member Since: 9/19/2008
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Hope Kris Allen breaks up with his wife and comes out soon. u all know, tour, roommates, parties, alcohols.... uhmmmm
This will be the biggest joke in the history of television.
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My God.  Desperate Fantast, if anything you're the reason why homophobia exists.
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My God. Desperate Fantast, if anything you're the reason why homophobia exists. |
You are even an embarassment to Islam aka one of the biggest humiliations to the world.
Out of two of us, you win by a landslide apparently.
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I so knew they were going to make it about Adam's sexuality. Gosh, his stans just can not admit he lost. How about looking for other excuses? Why is it so hard to GET most people dislike Lambert's screaming and exaggerated looks? :-/
Oh, and WTF at comparing it to a presidential election? Gimme a ****ing break. Mods, I thought it wasn't allowed to try to start political discussions here.
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